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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.6%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.7%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15.6%)
$95K to $100K - 12 (15.6%)
>$100K - 38 (49.4%)
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Refreshing the page (from which you are attempting to link or quote) usually takes care of that kind of a particular error message.

Nope, even tried to manually add the post reference in a quote that did work and still got the same error.


My bad misread that. I had already closed all the pages I used to locate the posts I needed.

The Text Area Cache plugin for Mozilla (seems it is available to other browser too meanwhile) saved my ass numerous times when editing large texts in the browser and experiencing the gifts of wonderful modern computing..(a.k.a crashed, timed out, login again first, cleaning lady tripped over an important cord, server not responding and whatnot)..

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I've seen other forums (using more modern engines) do caching (save before you submit) automatically in the reply boxes but that's a good idea for here indeed.
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Refreshing the page (from which you are attempting to link or quote) usually takes care of that kind of a particular error message.

Nope, even tried to manually add the post reference in a quote that did work and still got the same error.


My bad misread that. I had already closed all the pages I used to locate the posts I needed.

The Text Area Cache plugin for Mozilla (seems it is available to other browser too meanwhile) saved my ass numerous times when editing large texts in the browser and experiencing the gifts of wonderful modern computing..(a.k.a crashed, timed out, login again first, cleaning lady tripped over an important cord, server not responding and whatnot)..

-> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/textarea-cache/
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-> https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/textarea-cache/fpgnojhegiecfddikicbnlpamggflbln

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I've seen other forums (using more modern engines) do caching (save before you submit) automatically in the reply boxes but that's a good idea for here indeed.

The thing is this was not an issue of losing the cached text, this was an issue of the site failing to provide the requested quote page.

When I post multi quote posts I go to each post and do a open in new tab on each quote button so I have every post I'm replying to in a separate tab.

Then I go to each tab and write my reply and take that and paste it into one post.

So what happened is all the posts I hunted down to reply to i thought were quoted in a separate tab and after I closed all the searched posts down i went to the tabs to do my reply's and found that error on each of them.

I am thinking it was a cloudflare fuck.
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I am also not really opposed to the idea of various governments trying to shore up their treasuries with bitcoin - even though surely bitcoin is also meant to be for the people to be able to transact directly and to hold their value - or at least have various options of financial self-sovereignty, so there can be various ways that governments might end up employing policies that pump our bags yet may still not be so good for our abilities to transact directly with bitcoin... so we have to be careful if we are allowing governments to take over bitcoin and/or to influence the self-sovereignty aspects of bitcoin.

Definitely agree about the risk of government regulating Bitcoin. What I'm hoping for is that adoption by the masses will go through the roof (exponential) as they watch the BTC rate when governments start stacking BTC seriously, that should mitigate some of the risk as it becomes unpopular for governments to impose strict regulation.
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Definitely agree about the risk of government regulating Bitcoin. What I'm hoping for is that adoption by the masses will go through the roof (exponential) as they watch the BTC rate when governments start stacking BTC seriously, that should mitigate some of the risk as it becomes unpopular for governments to impose strict regulation.
I don't see how this might help much
The regulation imposed isn't the major issue
Cause they might implement friendly to encourage growth.
The issue is using Bitcoin to service their debt.
We can see the danger of countries owning Bitcoin in the market and selling.
Worse case scenario it might cause a chain reaction
When this country see the other selling
They might want to too, not to be the bearer of a loss.
If only the various countries could check and balance one another in it, then that would be better
But that's just wishful thinking.
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I don't see how this might help much
The regulation imposed isn't the major issue
Cause they might implement friendly to encourage growth.
The issue is using Bitcoin to service their debt.
We can see the danger of countries owning Bitcoin in the market and selling.
Worse case scenario it might cause a chain reaction
When this country see the other selling
They might want to too, not to be the bearer of a loss.
If only the various countries could check and balance one another in it, then that would be better
But that's just wishful thinking.

The more people who own Bitcoin, the less of a problem selling will be, besides, governments can use BTC <-> BTC transactions on the blockchain between countries which will not affect the rate; 1 BTC is always 1 BTC.

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10 years is a lot, but on the other hand, it is also a little - it depends from which perspective you look at it. If you invested in BTC when it was worth a few hundred $, then even today you are a relatively rich person (depends on where you live and what you want).

I get your point that 10 years really might not even be that long when it comes to a kind of an investment that brings you multitudes of price appreciation.

I would imagine that most people take a while to establish their BTC position.  They do not just lump sum in, even if they are capable of such lump summing.

2015 was scary too.

I would imagine anyone (even a relatively poor person but who had some disposable income) who was somewhat aggressively accumulating in 2015 ended up doing well for themselves if they were able to completely establish their position in 2015 - but I still think that the market sentiment was too uncertain for a lot of normies to be aggressive in establishing their position in 2015.. so even if they started in that time, they likely would have still been accumulating into 2016 and perhaps into 2017.. and maybe a bit beyond that..

It is certain that the percentage of those who believed that Bitcoin would survive at all in 2015 was much lower than it is today, but I can say from my experience that the people I talked to at the time about BTC were not ready to invest even $200 in that same BTC because they believed the mainstream media and people like Warren Buffett.

I remember that I started "collecting" my first coins during 2014 through faucets, and with a good faucet rotator and active referrals, it was possible to collect about 0.3 BTC per month in 1-2 hours a day. I, as well as most of the members of this forum who have been there since 2015 (and earlier), were obviously among those who knew how to think with their heads, unlike those who listened to the wrong people back then (as well as today).

Maybe this kind of market seems a bit frustrating, but I think it's better if everything "bad" happens now, even though the presidential elections in the US may have a greater impact on the price of BTC than everything that has been happening in recent months. Unfortunately, too much focus was placed on only one country, only one man and a few powerful companies.

There is something a bit frustrating with some aspects of bitcoin having ties to liquidity, yet still it seems likely that bitcoin is going to fair relatively better than other assets, and its performance is not quite as tied to the results of the election as it seems to be... Yet in various short term periods, there can be good cop bad cop ideas that contribute to some short term dynamics, including helping to shake some weak hands out of their coins.

These kinds of downity pressure periods frequently (if not always) feel scary while we are going through them, even for longer term holders who are in decently great profits.. and yea, maybe the ONLY ones getting excited are the bears, no coiner and low coiners, who might not be buying anyhow.  Sure some  newbies to bitcoin might be buying and excited to be able to buy cheaper, yet it can still feel uncomfortable regarding how low any dip is going to go or how long it is going to last.. but I still question any single issue theories. .such as presidential elections.. even though so many folks might currently be talking about bitcoin's price performance and/or future possibilities within those kinds of presidential election parameters.

A lot has changed over the years in relation to how people, but also how the world views Bitcoin - because if we remember that before the focus of investors was always focused on China, which was like the "main player" in mining and trading with BTC - until they did not ban cryptocurrencies and the focus slowly began to shift to the US.

I remember that at that time, some of the prominent members of various companies that had operations with cryptocurrencies in the US publicly said that Bitcoin simply had to come under greater US control in order to be better accepted, which in the end, as we see, happened.

Now we see that armies of so-called "crypto followers" gather in a trance at Trump rallies and listen to his promises that he will do this or that when he becomes president - although realistically he does not have the absolute power to do it all. Maybe they live in the belief that Trump will transform the US into some kind of great El Salvador where today President Bukele calls himself a BTC-loving dictator Roll Eyes
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