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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.6%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.8%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15.8%)
$95K to $100K - 12 (15.8%)
>$100K - 37 (48.7%)
Total Voters: 76

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I wonder what regular markets would do tomorrow?


They will either go up, go down or stay the same.

Financial advice in a nutshell.
People actually pay for that too.
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I wonder what regular markets would do tomorrow?


They will either go up, go down or stay the same.

Financial advice in a nutshell.
People actually pay for that too.


...and..what are your 2c?
you can reply with a song  Cheesy
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August 05, 2024, 02:45:29 AM
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I wonder what regular markets would do tomorrow?
Nas futures are down "just" 2.4%.
Bitcoin always prices in whatever calamity is coming first, S&P follows.
Check out March 2020.

Japanese markets are melting down now.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/japanic-monday-japanese-bonds-stocks-halted-after-plunging-bear-market-everything-crashes

I hope ol' Jerome is getting the $$$$ printer warmed up.
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August 05, 2024, 03:00:39 AM

well I wonder sub 50k possible?

Possible, sure. I’m really hoping this latest dip is the worst of it though. The next major support level below $50K is at $40K as far as I can tell, so we should all be hoping that $53K holds. The volume spike on this last dip is enough to call a bottom if you ask me, but at some point something is going to have to change the market direction to up.
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August 05, 2024, 03:01:37 AM

I thought you got rich off shitcoin... no?

Yah but I let it ride all in Dogecoin

Don't worry, I'll roast myself, or at least ask Grok to roast me, now that I have access to it:



How's a clown going to cause a marathon disaster? Would make for a great news headline.
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Bought the dip.

Me too
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I wonder if ETF’s buying the DIP

This would be an excellent opportunity imo.
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I wonder if ETF’s buying the DIP

This would be an excellent opportunity imo.

They can't buy until tomorrow (not trading during the weekend), but I agree re opportunity.
I don't have a target..it would depend on the calamity the markets are pricing in.
In 2020 we halved. So far, I don't see anything of that magnitude on the horizon.
That said, we started the year at 42.
S&P is not even down 10% from the highs, but we are already 27% down from ATH.
If S&P drops closer to 20%, Jerome cuts 50bp BEFORE September.

TL;DR A strange cycle
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August 05, 2024, 03:28:22 AM

I wonder if ETF’s buying the DIP

This would be an excellent opportunity imo.

They can't buy until tomorrow (not trading during the weekend), but I agree re opportunity.
I don't have a target..it would depend on the calamity the markets are pricing in.
In 2020 we halved. So far, I don't see anything of that magnitude on the horizon.
That said, we started the year at 42.
S&P is not even down 10% from the highs, but we are already 27% down from ATH.
If S&P drops closer to 20%, Jerome cuts 50bp BEFORE September.

TL;DR A strange cycle

Well the feds got a crash but maybe not enough. This will be a fun week.

Heck the dems can now say Trump is a moron for wanting BTC look how it crashed.
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August 05, 2024, 03:29:39 AM

I know
Can’t buy atm…. But if no recovery until then…
Should be a bargain for them and long term hold perspective
Actually not an ETH fan, but as there are ETF for that shit… it’s an opportunity as well I guess.
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I wonder if ETF’s buying the DIP

This would be an excellent opportunity imo.

They can't buy until tomorrow (not trading during the weekend), but I agree re opportunity.
I don't have a target..it would depend on the calamity the markets are pricing in.
In 2020 we halved. So far, I don't see anything of that magnitude on the horizon.
That said, we started the year at 42.
S&P is not even down 10% from the highs, but we are already 27% down from ATH.
If S&P drops closer to 20%, Jerome cuts 50bp BEFORE September.

TL;DR A strange cycle

Well the feds got a crash but maybe not enough. This will be a fun week.

Heck the dems can now say Trump is a moron for wanting BTC look how it crashed.

I doubt that it was planned this way, but who knows.
Bad Warren also sold 1/2 of his AAPL stake. This must have contributed to the sell-sell-sell reaction everywhere.
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August 05, 2024, 03:45:26 AM
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well i am filling my bags and fees are down 2 positives

but i prefer a good move up.

the btc market is looking more and more like a yo-yo for billionaires to toy with.

Yeah.. I had right around 7 buy orders fill between $65k and $54k, and so I surely don't find the filling of buy orders to be particularly fun, unless the price ends up bouncing..  Sometimes it can take a while to bounce,.. and who knows?  I never claim to know about these kinds of matters.. Is it going to bounce or not?  Sometimes bounces are clear and other times they are not.. and the only thing that we can really say is that there has been a dip, so we might get guys like OgNasty coming in and saying, "I told you so," and frequently many of us hate if those guys get their buy orders fill, but shit happens.. so if we are supposed to be prepared for either UP or DOWN, then in times like these, we can verify the extent to which we are "in fact" prepared for DOWN that ends up happening.. and anyone going to do a mindrust, yet?  We are not even close to mindrust levels of capitulation, yet.. even though surely  another 4 years later liquidation event would not be completely out of the question, but we are likely going to need much more drop to get to those levels.. Do I even want to suggest some numbers?  Probably not.

Another thing is that so much positive news and then the BTC price does the opposite of the seemingly positive news, so yeah, this is not completely unusual behavior for bitcoin.. even though we are never guaranteed that the BTC price is going to go up, yet many of us continue to invest into bitcoin because its investment thesis is not getting weaker, even during frustrating times like these.

the btc market is looking more and more like a yo-yo for billionaires to toy with.
It's the "people are at church" knock-down again.

There is nothing really new here.

Frequently when weak hands are being shaken out of their coins (or from the trees, or however the shaking goes), the end of bitcoin feels imminent, so why should now feel any different?  Do we ONLY want "comfortable" corrections?

What the hell is going on?

Who is dumb enough to be dumping BTC during election time?
I would like to know too. Justifications for this dump don't look convincing so far.

In the worst scenario, the market should be relatively stable above 60,000$. I can't see negativity enough to justify a new 50,000$'s.

Hoping it's just a final bear trap before the big pump.

It seems like the "down before the up" that many of us hope will not happen, but then it ends up happening anyhow... so yeah, there are likely folks who are expecting unrealistic levels of DOWN before they get in, just like there are always those kind who are never satisfied to buy at the current downity, and they always want more.

So?  Whether more down is coming or not, is still to be found out.  I have had enough of the down for now, yet I doubt that dee cornz gives any shits about the preferences of yours truly.   Cry Cry Cry

It seems that previously I had mentioned something in the ballpark of my current threshold of potentially bouncing into negativity.. NOT mindrust level of negativity, but just a wee bit of disappointment, especially if we end up getting stuck around such threshold versus bouncing.. and yeah, sometimes there is a need for a clear and unequivocal bounce, yet bounces are not always clear and unequivocal.. sometimes the bounce comes when holdler are totally depressed.. and I have no way of measuring how long that is going to take... I am trying to consider some forum member who might be a bell-weather of capitulation.. I have some names in mind, but surely I would not want to say. and even if I were to say, I might not even be correct anyhow.

Red candles rain.
Oh this fucking pain.
Take us to the 70s again.


#NotReallyHaiku

I would suggest that a fix for the Haiku would just be to change the order of the sentences and perhaps add a word, then it would be NotReallyHaiku converted into Haiku:

Something like this:

Some Red candles rain.
Take us to the 70s again.
Oh this fucking pain.


Looks like we’ve eaten our way to the first major support level that was established around July eleventh at about $56,700. I expect we’ll see that tested before this latest selloff is all over. Maybe late tonight. If that holds with a volume spike, I would consider it the first buy signal of this latest dip.

I thought you would chime in, oh holy one.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

maybe 57.1k was it.

most of my buy ladder was sucked up ⬆️

If it keeps going down, you might have to sell, so that you can buy back lower.

Maybe the capitulator is showing his lil selfie?

Perhaps?

Perhaps?
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August 05, 2024, 03:48:11 AM
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I wonder if ETF’s buying the DIP

This would be an excellent opportunity imo.

They can't buy until tomorrow (not trading during the weekend), but I agree re opportunity.
I don't have a target..it would depend on the calamity the markets are pricing in.
In 2020 we halved. So far, I don't see anything of that magnitude on the horizon.
That said, we started the year at 42.
S&P is not even down 10% from the highs, but we are already 27% down from ATH.
If S&P drops closer to 20%, Jerome cuts 50bp BEFORE September.

TL;DR A strange cycle

Well the feds got a crash but maybe not enough. This will be a fun week.

Heck the dems can now say Trump is a moron for wanting BTC look how it crashed.

I doubt that it was planned this way, but who knows.
Bad Warren also sold 1/2 of his AAPL stake. This must have contributed to the sell-sell-sell reaction everywhere.

I would gain respect for the fed if they said fuck the markets and raised the rates 50points.

No one would think they would do that. I feel this was the markets trying to force a cut in the rates in sept.

And I am really starting to look at btc as billionaires bitch toy yoyo 🪀

at JJG

i have a cap loss created from my 2022 sales.

no point selling.

I stretched and simply made my buy ladder go lower.

I want a good stack this time.

no real mining anymore so I need a different plan of making bank.

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I wonder if ETF’s buying the DIP

This would be an excellent opportunity imo.

They can't buy until tomorrow (not trading during the weekend), but I agree re opportunity.
I don't have a target..it would depend on the calamity the markets are pricing in.
In 2020 we halved. So far, I don't see anything of that magnitude on the horizon.
That said, we started the year at 42.
S&P is not even down 10% from the highs, but we are already 27% down from ATH.
If S&P drops closer to 20%, Jerome cuts 50bp BEFORE September.

TL;DR A strange cycle

Well the feds got a crash but maybe not enough. This will be a fun week.

Heck the dems can now say Trump is a moron for wanting BTC look how it crashed.

I doubt that it was planned this way, but who knows.
Bad Warren also sold 1/2 of his AAPL stake. This must have contributed to the sell-sell-sell reaction everywhere.

I would gain respect for the fed if they said fuck the markets and raised the rates 50points.

No one would think they would do that. I feel this was the markets trying to force a cut in the rates in sept.

And I am really starting to look at btc as billionaires bitch toy yoyo 🪀

What did you expect, bro, we are playing with the big boys now and they love a "bargain".
Remember how they crushed the Internet sector in 2001-2002, only to turn around and buy into "survivors" like AMZN, big time...slowly.
Later on, at some point they crushed Netflix by 80% or so, only to buy gobs of it later.
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August 05, 2024, 03:58:34 AM

Woke up to see Bitcoin at $54K
Did another war start while I was sleeping or has fear clouded many judgement already
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Woke up to see Bitcoin at $54K
Did another war start while I was sleeping or has fear clouded many judgement already

"Money never sleeps, Bud...back to work"
A quote from the original "Wall street" flick.
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The last person I want publicly endorsing bitcoin is convicted felon Donald Fucking Trump.
So this cognitively declining, lying piece of shit speaks rambles on with word salads and the like (as he always does) at the the Bitcoin Conference 2024 and completely reverses his previous stance on "crypto". (sorry Jay)
Gee, I wonder why?
"blah blah bitcoin blah blah blah I like crypto blah blah blah"...
...And bitcoin dumps. Coincidence? I don't think so.

I doubt that pump dumps are whatever are really attributed to that dweeb, since there are always going to be various excuses to pump or dump and yeah, during the dumps, they need to seem convincing and/or scary so that real people actually sell their coins .. while some of the stronger hands (some of which who may well not deserve coins), scoop them up.   The powers that be would love to get as many cornz as possible out of the direct hands of real people, so I would imagine that many of the active ones here are not going to be that easy to convince, even though surely there may be some of us who release some of our coins (and don't say anything about our weak hands) in this thread.  Don't suggest that I am one of the sellers since I have been selling on the way up since 2015 and buying on the way down, so I hardly ever sell on the way down.. just one time that I can recall in November 2018.. for reasons.. and it was not even very much since I bought back nearly half of the sold ones, prior to the BTC price shooting up in April 2019.

Damn!... I'm becoming such a grumpy pants in my old age. These things happen unfortunately. My bad.
So how about I post another tasteless joke or a terrible reference track?  I need validation. lol
....ok maybe not....

Out of the two, I probably would prefer the "tasteless joke" even though historically (or is it hysterically?) there have been some pretty low level ones (relatively speaking),.. and regarding the poetry potential.. at least so far in your seemingly temporary downity feelings, you have spared "us" that level of torture... speaking on behalf of Marcus, since he hasn't been available for a while (629 days).. so not seeming very likely that we will be hearing more from him.. Am I supposed to say RIP.. nothing against Marcus.. even though he had some controversial periods in his last days on the forum, so probably not good to leave with that impression..

GO BITCOIN


ditto that

[edited out]
It's just some BS he said to get the crypto (sorry, Jay) community on his side. He never means to deliver on any of it.

Sure I question the extent to which Trump really understands the difference between bitcoin and crypto, yet he still had several fairly decent talking points, even if there was not a lot of substance behind several of those talking points, and some of the talking points were a bit unclear and potentially contradictory, but still an overall idea of striving for a less hostile bitcoin environment might not be totally bad, yet who really knows if there might be lovey dovey speech in the foreground and behind the scenes prosecutions of the various people who Trump hates, so in the end, no one is really safe from an outwardly vindictive guy like him so bitcoin/crypto is all hunky dory until that pea-brained twat finds out that some of his enemies are using it, and he seems to have no shortage of enemies.  The ONLY folks he seems to like are those who worship him and kiss/lick his bitcoin sneakers.


Bought the dip.
Yeah, I threw a Jackson at it. I live dangerously.

I figured you would be rolling with some dry powder.   Wink

Bought the dip.
Yeah, I threw a Jackson at it. I live dangerously.
I'm already all in so now I am poor again.

I thought you got rich off shitcoin... no? (http/btctalk link to shitcoin thread... google it yourself)

Hahahahaha.. Nutildah's special NFTs.  Of course, he's an artsie fartsie type... and not in it for the money.

By the way.. ..

Protip:
  never go all in... whether fiat or BTC.  #justsaying


Looks like someone trying to keep us under 55 right now.

Might there be some waiting for the ETF markets to open up?  I am not saying that I know anything specifically.

It's in the Ethereum scam market that the whales are playing the PnD game.

Bitcoin is just a leverage tool to help play it with.

You guys know that, right?

That may well be one of the ONLY redeeming contingencies of this whole dumpening situation..... purgening of some of the froth.. 

Finally we might get to withness ETH getting back down to some more realistic valuations. 

Personally, I would get some pleasure in seeing 0.02 BTC or lower.. so another 50% drop in terms of BTC seems reasonable (since we had seen a dip slight below 0.04)... Not that I completely dislike shitcoiners, since many of them are people too.. even though they are scammers or friends of scammers or supporters of scammers (but some of my "best" friends are shitcoiners).. .. #justsaying
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August 05, 2024, 04:51:48 AM

Here's hoping my "Bitcoin standard" (aka "Fort Knox BTC") theory pans out, or that the masses finally wise up to buy the dip, preferably both at the same time, because the alternative will suck for everyone (not just BTC holders).

Hyperinflation leading to WW3 or buy Bitcoin, the choice is yours, now or never.
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