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MicroStrategy isn’t done accumulating Bitcoin... it’s like they’re treating it as a Christmas sale!

Bitcoin Rises. MicroStrategy Buys $2.1 Billion of the Crypto as Spending Spree Continues.

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[JayJuanGee]

I urge everyone to watch Roger Ver’s interview with Tucker Carlson discussing the hijacking of Bitcoin, censorship, and the United States government’s overreach. I also think if you care about Bitcoin or freedom, you should sign his petition at https://www.freerogernow.org/ as Roger does not deserve life in prison.
Tucker Carlson - HIJACKED: https://youtu.be/dbLHXOipQN4

Fuck Bcash 

It really is sad seeing this attitude in the community.  I think people who were around in 2011 know that Roger was one of the greatest assets in Bitcoin's history.  Without him, I don't think Bitcoin would have seen the success that it did early on.  Sure, he made some mistakes.  "Bcash" wasn't one of them though.  Open source projects can be forked and after developers backstabbed the entire ecosystem by giving everyone the finger after segwit was activated instead of doing what they agreed to do in the New York Agreement, it was not only the right thing to do, it was necessary.  We all likely profited from it as well and at worst we were given an additional option.  I hope that whatever happens, history remembers Roger and Gavin (Andresen) as the pioneers they are.  Without both of them, I may have never even pursued Bitcoin as a serious thing.

I think that you are correct that Roger does not deserve life in prison for the controversies regarding the tax situation, and it does seem like some kind of a selective prosecution, and likely including a lot of injustices even in bringing the charges, including Roger's mentioning of the raiding of his tax attorney's offices seems a bit much..

Roger had a lot of questionable tactics during the blocksize wars, and whether he was involved in bcash or various other projects that were seeming to just bash on bitcoin seemed to be lacking in any ability to appreciating that he is not always right about all things.

You cannot be serious when you proclaim that there was a violation from the bitcoin community in regards to not following through with the New York agreement.  It seems to me that the bitcoin community wanted segwit but did not want 2x.. and so your attempt to proclaim that 2x needed to be imposed, included or folded into bitcoin seems out of touch with what consensus wanted and also in regards what it would have meant to have 2x imposed, technically in terms of who could mine bitcoin, and in terms of bitcoin governance in regards to how future changes to bitcoin might have had ended up being implemented.

Roger and Gavin have various shady aspects in their histories (bcash and other things for Roger, and Gavin surely seemed delusional in trying to push craig as Satoshi), and of course, both Roger and Gavin had been making various contributions to aspects of bitcoin (and crypto) too (and even talking points).  I am not going to proclaim to be scholars about how they should be remembered, even though they had seem to engage in various under-handed tactics, and of course, Roger had more money to spend on his various attempts at undermining bitcoin.

developers backstabbed the entire ecosystem by giving everyone the finger after segwit was activated instead of doing what they agreed to do in the New York Agreement

segwit2x and that "agreement" would have killed everything BTC stands for. I can appreciate early RV and what he did but the full on bcash sellout will always trump anything else. Am I making shit up now or didn't he even go as far as saying that he knew craig was satoshi??

Roger had endorsed Craig as being Satoshi during the first year of bcash, yet you may remember that their falling out was more and more pronounced when Craig et al decided to go through with a hard forkening of bcash into bcash sv. 

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Bitcoin was an open source project. 

Bitcoin continues to be an open source project.  Your use of the past tense creates an impression that you might not know what is bitcoin.

They fork when evil gets control of a project.  It's a feature, not a bug. 

Forking is a right.  You are correct.  How did forking work out for the forkers?

It sounds like you've sipped a little too much of the Blockstream kool-aid.  The fact Bitcoin in it's current form was built on lies, censorship, and backstabbing should be an embarrassment to us all. 

Do you still own Bcash?  what about Bcash SV?  Sure you have a right to own them, and you have a right to choose sides too.. You also have a right to hedge.

I wish Gavin would have never stepped away. 

I think he was kicked out because of his poor judgement in connection with Craig, and Gavin did not pursue his having had been removed from serving as lead Bitcoin Core maintainer, and so in that sense, yes, he seems to have stepped away from development and stepped away from other ways of being involved in bitcoin, or gave up in his attempts to push BIG Blocker nonsense.. Maybe Gavin was compromised by high governmental forces?  who knows when such compromising might have had taken place?

Blockstream bought the developers and tried to bully their way into controlling the entire Bitcoin infrastructure.  What killed everything Bitcoin stood for is a company artificially limiting blocks to push their own bullshit patented scaling solution by paying off developers or just plain bullying them out of their roles.  Only Cobra had the nuts to tell them to go fuck themselves when they came for bitcoin.org.

Blockstream controls bitcoin seems a bit much, but hey whatever you can believe what you like.  I wonder how much you are going to want to go back to arguing BIG blocker crying over bygones points in this threads.  You are unhappy with bitcoin, but you like it's number go up right now, yet you seem distracted, which might be part of the explanation why you have been in bitcoin since mid-2011 and you still are "accumulating bitcoin."  You might not either know what bitcoin is (or have confidence in it) or you might be distracted into shitcoins and trading... which goes back to not knowing what bitcoin is, even though you've been on the forum since mid-2011.  Who would-a-thunk?

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[AlcoHoDL]

I urge everyone to watch Roger Ver’s interview with Tucker Carlson discussing the hijacking of Bitcoin, censorship, and the United States government’s overreach. I also think if you care about Bitcoin or freedom, you should sign his petition at https://www.freerogernow.org/ as Roger does not deserve life in prison.
Tucker Carlson - HIJACKED: https://youtu.be/dbLHXOipQN4

Fuck Bcash 

It really is sad seeing this attitude in the community.  I think people who were around in 2011 know that Roger was one of the greatest assets in Bitcoin's history.  Without him, I don't think Bitcoin would have seen the success that it did early on.  Sure, he made some mistakes.  "Bcash" wasn't one of them though.  Open source projects can be forked and after developers backstabbed the entire ecosystem by giving everyone the finger after segwit was activated instead of doing what they agreed to do in the New York Agreement, it was not only the right thing to do, it was necessary.  We all likely profited from it as well and at worst we were given an additional option.  I hope that whatever happens, history remembers Roger and Gavin (Andresen) as the pioneers they are.  Without both of them, I may have never even pursued Bitcoin as a serious thing.

I think that you are correct that Roger does not deserve life in prison for the controversies regarding the tax situation, and it does seem like some kind of a selective prosecution, and likely including a lot of injustices even in bringing the charges, including Roger's mentioning of the raiding of his tax attorney's offices seems a bit much..

Roger had a lot of questionable tactics during the blocksize wars, and whether he was involved in bcash or various other projects that were seeming to just bash on bitcoin seemed to be lacking in any ability to appreciating that he is not always right about all things.

You cannot be serious when you proclaim that there was a violation from the bitcoin community in regards to not following through with the New York agreement.  It seems to me that the bitcoin community wanted segwit but did not want 2x.. and so your attempt to proclaim that 2x needed to be imposed, included or folded into bitcoin seems out of touch with what consensus wanted and also in regards what it would have meant to have 2x imposed, technically in terms of who could mine bitcoin, and in terms of bitcoin governance in regards to how future changes to bitcoin might have had ended up being implemented.

Roger and Gavin have various shady aspects in their histories (bcash and other things for Roger, and Gavin surely seemed delusional in trying to push craig as Satoshi), and of course, both Roger and Gavin had been making various contributions to aspects of bitcoin (and crypto) too (and even talking points).  I am not going to proclaim to be scholars about how they should be remembered, even though they had seem to engage in various under-handed tactics, and of course, Roger had more money to spend on his various attempts at undermining bitcoin.

developers backstabbed the entire ecosystem by giving everyone the finger after segwit was activated instead of doing what they agreed to do in the New York Agreement

segwit2x and that "agreement" would have killed everything BTC stands for. I can appreciate early RV and what he did but the full on bcash sellout will always trump anything else. Am I making shit up now or didn't he even go as far as saying that he knew craig was satoshi??

Roger had endorsed Craig as being Satoshi during the first year of bcash, yet you may remember that their falling out was more and more pronounced when Craig et al decided to go through with a hard forkening of bcash into bcash sv. 

[edited out]

Bitcoin was an open source project. 

Bitcoin continues to be an open source project.  Your use of the past tense creates an impression that you might not know what is bitcoin.

They fork when evil gets control of a project.  It's a feature, not a bug. 

Forking is a right.  You are correct.  How did forking work out for the forkers?

It sounds like you've sipped a little too much of the Blockstream kool-aid.  The fact Bitcoin in it's current form was built on lies, censorship, and backstabbing should be an embarrassment to us all. 

Do you still own Bcash?  what about Bcash SV?  Sure you have a right to own them, and you have a right to choose sides too.. You also have a right to hedge.

I wish Gavin would have never stepped away. 

I think he was kicked out because of his poor judgement in connection with Craig, and Gavin did not pursue his having had been removed from serving as lead Bitcoin Core maintainer, and so in that sense, yes, he seems to have stepped away from development and stepped away from other ways of being involved in bitcoin, or gave up in his attempts to push BIG Blocker nonsense.. Maybe Gavin was compromised by high governmental forces?  who knows when such compromising might have had taken place?

Blockstream bought the developers and tried to bully their way into controlling the entire Bitcoin infrastructure.  What killed everything Bitcoin stood for is a company artificially limiting blocks to push their own bullshit patented scaling solution by paying off developers or just plain bullying them out of their roles.  Only Cobra had the nuts to tell them to go fuck themselves when they came for bitcoin.org.

Blockstream controls bitcoin seems a bit much, but hey whatever you can believe what you like.  I wonder how much you are going to want to go back to arguing BIG blocker crying over bygones points in this threads.  You are unhappy with bitcoin, but you like it's number go up right now, yet you seem distracted, which might be part of the explanation why you have been in bitcoin since mid-2011 and you still are "accumulating bitcoin."  You might not either know what bitcoin is (or have confidence in it) or you might be distracted into shitcoins and trading... which goes back to not knowing what bitcoin is, even though you've been on the forum since mid-2011.  Who would-a-thunk?

Well said.

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[Perfectbaby]

A lot off topic but had to share with someone cos I'm trying to stay strong for my wife at the moment. Children for us are off the cards due to medical reasons so we've got two beautiful dogs. Unfortunately, our eldest, Nismo, well he's fallen very ill and in a few hours barring a miracle I'll likely be saying goodbye to him for the last time. Back in 2020 he had to have spinal surgery which cost a lot of money (would spend it again in a heartbeat) and BTC helped him there too. Sadly, doesn't look like money will solve the problem today.

If you have dogs, hold them extra tight for me tonight, they really are the greatest gift and best friend. I truly am lucky to have had his light shine on our lives for the last 14 years. I'll post a picture of him later just so everyone can appreciate him and how amazing he was/is

Anyway sorry for the off topic but yeah.... I'm just heartbroken

I just saw this and very sorry for your loss/upcoming loss.
Some people clone their beloved pets.
I could see both sides of the argument: it would be the same dog genetically, but it would have to learn to love you again.
Cost is about 0.5 btc, give or take ($50,000).
I was just recently reading an article about it.
EDIT: just for description..I think the article was saying that they need an ear from the recently deceased pet (not frozen). I don't recall much else apart from the fact that cloning is now very efficient, but dogs are more challenging to clone.
Not sure if i have seen this article or another one:
https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/lifestyle/the-50000-dog-cloning-business-is-booming/

I could never do that, he'd never be the same personality and that's what and where the real love came from but thank you for your condolences. Here are two pictures that capture him perfectly, I know most won't care but that's ok. If any of you do have dogs, please hold them tight for me. Little Nismo is gone now but he lives on in all the treasured memories he left behind

Seeing this pictures you posted just reignited the memory of our dog and I am already tearing right away. But anyway, I will find a place to hold my tears and I hope you do the same as well. Btw he is very smart looking, and how I wish tears could  bring him back then I could have cried to make sure I restore ours.

Death is a painful thing which after they leave we can never see them forever. Take heart and be Man.

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[heslo]

A lot off topic but had to share with someone cos I'm trying to stay strong for my wife at the moment. Children for us are off the cards due to medical reasons so we've got two beautiful dogs. Unfortunately, our eldest, Nismo, well he's fallen very ill and in a few hours barring a miracle I'll likely be saying goodbye to him for the last time. Back in 2020 he had to have spinal surgery which cost a lot of money (would spend it again in a heartbeat) and BTC helped him there too. Sadly, doesn't look like money will solve the problem today.

If you have dogs, hold them extra tight for me tonight, they really are the greatest gift and best friend. I truly am lucky to have had his light shine on our lives for the last 14 years. I'll post a picture of him later just so everyone can appreciate him and how amazing he was/is

Anyway sorry for the off topic but yeah.... I'm just heartbroken

I just saw this and very sorry for your loss/upcoming loss.
Some people clone their beloved pets.
I could see both sides of the argument: it would be the same dog genetically, but it would have to learn to love you again.
Cost is about 0.5 btc, give or take ($50,000).
I was just recently reading an article about it.
EDIT: just for description..I think the article was saying that they need an ear from the recently deceased pet (not frozen). I don't recall much else apart from the fact that cloning is now very efficient, but dogs are more challenging to clone.
Not sure if i have seen this article or another one:
https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/lifestyle/the-50000-dog-cloning-business-is-booming/

I could never do that, he'd never be the same personality and that's what and where the real love came from but thank you for your condolences. Here are two pictures that capture him perfectly, I know most won't care but that's ok. If any of you do have dogs, please hold them tight for me. Little Nismo is gone now but he lives on in all the treasured memories he left behind

Seeing this pictures you posted just reignited the memory of our dog and I am already tearing right away. But anyway, I will find a place to hold my tears and I hope you do the same as well. Btw he is very smart looking, and how I wish tears could  bring him back then I could have cried to make sure I restore ours.

Death is a painful thing which after they leave we can never see them forever. Take heart and be Man.

He was a very handsome boy and will be missed forever but you're right, if only tears could bring him back I would have him here already with what I've cried today.

Thank you for the kind words and I'm sure your dog was amazing as well!

[philipma1957]

    “To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”

Well he is correct. Here is an example of the problem "insulin" the inventor gave the pattern for free yet it cost a fortune in the usa over 1000 usd a month .  

Being a diabetic I am well aware of what the USa does to promote the illness so pharm insurance and doctors make $$$

The treatment should cost about 1000 a year tops not 12,000.

never mind how the country promote diabetes causing diets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQD3_pWRTjc just one commercial will likely help thousands to activate their diabetes genes.

there are a grand total of 3 cereals that work if you are predisposed to diabetes.

https://www.pooplikeachampion.com/collections/cereals
https://naturespath.com/collections/cereal/products/smart-bran-cold-cereal-np-us
https://www.fiberone.com/

that is it. all others simply have far too many carbs to work for a diabetic or a pre diabetic.

I could go one.  but just one more example eggs are good for a diabetic and now eggs are crazy high prices .

It goes on.  This is just one disease that the USA fosters and helps promote. So yeah I get the reason he is upset. Too bad I won't be on his jury.

[Perfectbaby]

A lot off topic but had to share with someone cos I'm trying to stay strong for my wife at the moment. Children for us are off the cards due to medical reasons so we've got two beautiful dogs. Unfortunately, our eldest, Nismo, well he's fallen very ill and in a few hours barring a miracle I'll likely be saying goodbye to him for the last time. Back in 2020 he had to have spinal surgery which cost a lot of money (would spend it again in a heartbeat) and BTC helped him there too. Sadly, doesn't look like money will solve the problem today.

If you have dogs, hold them extra tight for me tonight, they really are the greatest gift and best friend. I truly am lucky to have had his light shine on our lives for the last 14 years. I'll post a picture of him later just so everyone can appreciate him and how amazing he was/is

Anyway sorry for the off topic but yeah.... I'm just heartbroken

I just saw this and very sorry for your loss/upcoming loss.
Some people clone their beloved pets.
I could see both sides of the argument: it would be the same dog genetically, but it would have to learn to love you again.
Cost is about 0.5 btc, give or take ($50,000).
I was just recently reading an article about it.
EDIT: just for description..I think the article was saying that they need an ear from the recently deceased pet (not frozen). I don't recall much else apart from the fact that cloning is now very efficient, but dogs are more challenging to clone.
Not sure if i have seen this article or another one:
https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/lifestyle/the-50000-dog-cloning-business-is-booming/

I could never do that, he'd never be the same personality and that's what and where the real love came from but thank you for your condolences. Here are two pictures that capture him perfectly, I know most won't care but that's ok. If any of you do have dogs, please hold them tight for me. Little Nismo is gone now but he lives on in all the treasured memories he left behind

Seeing this pictures you posted just reignited the memory of our dog and I am already tearing right away. But anyway, I will find a place to hold my tears and I hope you do the same as well. Btw he is very smart looking, and how I wish tears could  bring him back then I could have cried to make sure I restore ours.

Death is a painful thing which after they leave we can never see them forever. Take heart and be Man.

He was a very handsome boy and will be missed forever but you're right, if only tears could bring him back I would have him here already with what I've cried today.

Thank you for the kind words and I'm sure your dog was amazing as well!

Yes it's, I don't know if I am also permitted to have his picture posted here as I don't want to deviate from the main purpose of this mega thread.

Anyway thank you.

[heslo]

A lot off topic but had to share with someone cos I'm trying to stay strong for my wife at the moment. Children for us are off the cards due to medical reasons so we've got two beautiful dogs. Unfortunately, our eldest, Nismo, well he's fallen very ill and in a few hours barring a miracle I'll likely be saying goodbye to him for the last time. Back in 2020 he had to have spinal surgery which cost a lot of money (would spend it again in a heartbeat) and BTC helped him there too. Sadly, doesn't look like money will solve the problem today.

If you have dogs, hold them extra tight for me tonight, they really are the greatest gift and best friend. I truly am lucky to have had his light shine on our lives for the last 14 years. I'll post a picture of him later just so everyone can appreciate him and how amazing he was/is

Anyway sorry for the off topic but yeah.... I'm just heartbroken

I just saw this and very sorry for your loss/upcoming loss.
Some people clone their beloved pets.
I could see both sides of the argument: it would be the same dog genetically, but it would have to learn to love you again.
Cost is about 0.5 btc, give or take ($50,000).
I was just recently reading an article about it.
EDIT: just for description..I think the article was saying that they need an ear from the recently deceased pet (not frozen). I don't recall much else apart from the fact that cloning is now very efficient, but dogs are more challenging to clone.
Not sure if i have seen this article or another one:
https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/lifestyle/the-50000-dog-cloning-business-is-booming/

I could never do that, he'd never be the same personality and that's what and where the real love came from but thank you for your condolences. Here are two pictures that capture him perfectly, I know most won't care but that's ok. If any of you do have dogs, please hold them tight for me. Little Nismo is gone now but he lives on in all the treasured memories he left behind

Seeing this pictures you posted just reignited the memory of our dog and I am already tearing right away. But anyway, I will find a place to hold my tears and I hope you do the same as well. Btw he is very smart looking, and how I wish tears could  bring him back then I could have cried to make sure I restore ours.

Death is a painful thing which after they leave we can never see them forever. Take heart and be Man.

He was a very handsome boy and will be missed forever but you're right, if only tears could bring him back I would have him here already with what I've cried today.

Thank you for the kind words and I'm sure your dog was amazing as well!

Yes it's, I don't know if I am also permitted to have his picture posted here as I don't want to deviate from the main purpose of this mega thread.

Anyway thank you.

Send it to me via PM, I'd love to see him

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[Perfectbaby]

A lot off topic but had to share with someone cos I'm trying to stay strong for my wife at the moment. Children for us are off the cards due to medical reasons so we've got two beautiful dogs. Unfortunately, our eldest, Nismo, well he's fallen very ill and in a few hours barring a miracle I'll likely be saying goodbye to him for the last time. Back in 2020 he had to have spinal surgery which cost a lot of money (would spend it again in a heartbeat) and BTC helped him there too. Sadly, doesn't look like money will solve the problem today.

If you have dogs, hold them extra tight for me tonight, they really are the greatest gift and best friend. I truly am lucky to have had his light shine on our lives for the last 14 years. I'll post a picture of him later just so everyone can appreciate him and how amazing he was/is

Anyway sorry for the off topic but yeah.... I'm just heartbroken

I just saw this and very sorry for your loss/upcoming loss.
Some people clone their beloved pets.
I could see both sides of the argument: it would be the same dog genetically, but it would have to learn to love you again.
Cost is about 0.5 btc, give or take ($50,000).
I was just recently reading an article about it.
EDIT: just for description..I think the article was saying that they need an ear from the recently deceased pet (not frozen). I don't recall much else apart from the fact that cloning is now very efficient, but dogs are more challenging to clone.
Not sure if i have seen this article or another one:
https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/lifestyle/the-50000-dog-cloning-business-is-booming/

I could never do that, he'd never be the same personality and that's what and where the real love came from but thank you for your condolences. Here are two pictures that capture him perfectly, I know most won't care but that's ok. If any of you do have dogs, please hold them tight for me. Little Nismo is gone now but he lives on in all the treasured memories he left behind

Seeing this pictures you posted just reignited the memory of our dog and I am already tearing right away. But anyway, I will find a place to hold my tears and I hope you do the same as well. Btw he is very smart looking, and how I wish tears could  bring him back then I could have cried to make sure I restore ours.

Death is a painful thing which after they leave we can never see them forever. Take heart and be Man.

He was a very handsome boy and will be missed forever but you're right, if only tears could bring him back I would have him here already with what I've cried today.

Thank you for the kind words and I'm sure your dog was amazing as well!

Yes it's, I don't know if I am also permitted to have his picture posted here as I don't want to deviate from the main purpose of this mega thread.

Anyway thank you.

Send it to me via PM, I'd love to see him

Done.. please confirm.
Though it's actually painful to lose him, because of the harden dried weather (harmattan) which was so severed to him that caused his death.

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[goldkingcoiner]

A lot off topic but had to share with someone cos I'm trying to stay strong for my wife at the moment. Children for us are off the cards due to medical reasons so we've got two beautiful dogs. Unfortunately, our eldest, Nismo, well he's fallen very ill and in a few hours barring a miracle I'll likely be saying goodbye to him for the last time. Back in 2020 he had to have spinal surgery which cost a lot of money (would spend it again in a heartbeat) and BTC helped him there too. Sadly, doesn't look like money will solve the problem today.

If you have dogs, hold them extra tight for me tonight, they really are the greatest gift and best friend. I truly am lucky to have had his light shine on our lives for the last 14 years. I'll post a picture of him later just so everyone can appreciate him and how amazing he was/is

Anyway sorry for the off topic but yeah.... I'm just heartbroken

I just saw this and very sorry for your loss/upcoming loss.
Some people clone their beloved pets.
I could see both sides of the argument: it would be the same dog genetically, but it would have to learn to love you again.
Cost is about 0.5 btc, give or take ($50,000).
I was just recently reading an article about it.
EDIT: just for description..I think the article was saying that they need an ear from the recently deceased pet (not frozen). I don't recall much else apart from the fact that cloning is now very efficient, but dogs are more challenging to clone.
Not sure if i have seen this article or another one:
https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/lifestyle/the-50000-dog-cloning-business-is-booming/

I could never do that, he'd never be the same personality and that's what and where the real love came from but thank you for your condolences. Here are two pictures that capture him perfectly, I know most won't care but that's ok. If any of you do have dogs, please hold them tight for me. Little Nismo is gone now but he lives on in all the treasured memories he left behind

I am sorry to hear about your dog. Losing a pet is the same as losing a family member.

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[d_eddie]

OT: Google's quantum computer.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/10/google-says-its-new-quantum-chip-indicates-that-multiple-universes-exist/
and
https://blog.google/technology/research/google-willow-quantum-chip/

Willow’s performance on this benchmark is astonishing: It performed a computation in under five minutes that would take one of today’s fastest supercomputers 1025 or 10 septillion years. If you want to write it out, it’s 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years. This mind-boggling number exceeds known timescales in physics and vastly exceeds the age of the universe. It lends credence to the notion that quantum computation occurs in many parallel universes, in line with the idea that we live in a multiverse, a prediction first made by David Deutsch.

The logic of this is difficult to follow for me: they claim that the fact that their quantum computer is so much faster than the regular computer (does something in 5min that "regular"supercomputer can only do in 10^25 years, which is roughly 1 million billion times longer than our Universe existed somehow indicates that the quantum computer uses parallel universes to do the calculations. This just does not seem right to me.

However, I can imagine the quantum computer "spawning" those universes, maybe virtually, to "help" it's calculations.
Otherwise, it is not clear to me how it managed to link up with those preexisting universes as there is nothing there that one might consider an interface.
I read the D. Deutsch book, but the argument there was just as unclear. Perhaps, I am just not getting it.

One could make an algorithm arbitrarily slow, so that it could take several times the age of our universe (which is an estimate based on our current understanding) to compute. Think of using an abacus to solve a complex problem. The fact that a modern computer (quantum or not) can solve the same problem near-infinitely faster does not mean it's somehow using parallel universes to solve it.

I'm not buying it.

I'm pretty sure you are familiar with this, Biodom. And probably AlcoHoDL, too. But I'm laying this down for those who might not be.

The fastness/slowness of an algorithm does not depend on the hardware used to run its implementation (i.e., abacus vs fast CPU). "Time complexity" - that's what it's called - is measured as the number of steps the algorithm must go through depending on the size of its input. The same number of steps performed by an abacus or by a CPU take different times, of course, but what's relevant is the rate of growth of the number of steps as the size of the input grows. That's why doubling the key length does not double the number of steps to brute force it, but turns it into its square. For example: if it takes 1000 steps to break a 100 bit key, a 200 bit key would take 1,000,000. Bring the key length to, say, 1000 bits and you're set for a few decades. Or centuries.

Quantum computing's breakthrough is not about a device faster than abacus, or faster than the best CPU. It is about a new paradigm of computation that introduces different algorithms with a smaller time complexity. For example, if all possible 100 bit keys could be tested in just one operation, that would require constant time, and this could be cleverly exploited to speed up the brute forcing of longer keys by suitable grouping or whatnot.

That's why I called out to Google hoping they publish a paper with statements of

1. The problem to be solved
2. The classical (non quantum) algorithm
3. The quantum algorithm

If/when they do, the scientific community will be able to evaluate the complexity speedup. Until that day, it's hype and uninformed journalists - people who say "exponentially" thinking it means "much".

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https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1866035508549202063


But in future....