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[OutOfMemory]

Charlie Kirk Shot in neck in Utah.

Big maga guy.

not sure if okay.


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c206zm81z4gt

Maga not ok
Homicide never ok


EDIT: Whatever the background, if you (the general "you", not you, Philip) jump on the blaming wagon, you're being played.
It might have been an inside job, might have been the act of some maniac (good shot, also at least no suffering).
No sane democrat nor republican would accept killing one of the other side/party, so it's totally pointless to blame (all) the left and/or democrats.
Amounts of maniacs are about the same on each side, every side (relatively spoken), mind the Bell Curve.
Letting indivdual people, opinions or actions divide the public, is insanely stupid, but maybe the public is just that too.

Time for unity. War is the alternative at the other end.
Homo stupidus.

I have to assume he is dead. The far left need reigning in, they are violent and unhinged. Something has to be done.

Why is it always "left" or "right" people - a life was taken why can't we just condemn violence in any form when it is completely unprovoked..

In all fairness, it isn’t always left or right, it is usually just the left… At least lately. They have definitely become the party of hate, violence, and crime. If that isn’t blatantly obvious to you from this week’s actions, you have blinders on. Calling out democrats for the behavior they incite is absolutely the right thing to do.

@Hhampuz: "Left" and "Right" are historic terms (governmental seat placement), just google it.

@OgNasty: While i value your Bitcoin mindset, you're clearly biased here. Also, you're speaking of "left" and replace it with "party" in the next sentence, which is quite manipulative (i can't tell if it was intended, i hope it wasn't). Democrats should condemn the killing, as well as the dividing and hating.
Or put another way: Would you be comfortable if you were called out as one of the "white people" whenever "black people" were killed by white(s)?
Come to your senses, man.
All of you.

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When I scrolling, I find this. 



https://www.facebook.com/share/p/163ujdRS1C/

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When I scrolling, I find this.  

Someone posted this here before…
Here’s my response once again: “it’s a dumb statement, you can archive both”  i.e go to school and still ‘buy bitcoin’ it doesn’t affect any...

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[JayJuanGee]

I have to assume he is dead. The far left need reigning in, they are violent and unhinged. Something has to be done.

Why is it always "left" or "right" people - a life was taken why can't we just condemn violence in any form when it is completely unprovoked..

In all fairness, it isn’t always left or right, it is usually just the left… At least lately. They have definitely become the party of hate, violence, and crime. If that isn’t blatantly obvious to you from this week’s actions, you have blinders on. Calling out democrats for the behavior they incite is absolutely the right thing to do.

Don't let any actual facts get in the way of your analysis spin.

Like these facts?
"All Cartridges have engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology"

https://imgur.com/a/5DAhhvt - if image isn't loading

The point that I was making to criticize OgNasty was a bit broader, since he was proclaiming that almost all hate, violence and crime was coming from the left.

Surely in the Kirk shooting case there seems to be fairly strong evidence that the shooting was motivated by political differences of opinion, and so yeah, if the bullets are engraved then it becomes less ambiguous that the political motivations were intended to be known.

I think that the kinds of facts that I was suggesting OgNasty to be leaving out relates to evidence of hate, violence and/or crime that comes from right wing rather than left wing ideology.  From my perspective OgNasty is so obvious in his own ways of seeing the world and presenting the issue that there is hardly any need to counter it, except just to point out that he is making outrageous claims and failing/refusing to provide evidence for his outrageous claims (or to to rebutt the counter-evidence).

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BTW Trump tariffs will make  thousands of dollars for me this year.

Copper cat 5e went from 50 cents a pound to 1.15 a pound and I have over 5 tons of it.

Your lucky break Phil. 

Now do the exercise of having had bought bitcoin with the money that you had used to buy that copper.  Where would you be?

Did you remember to subtract your costs from your profits?  Cost of storage and moving that stuff around? and the liquidity?  Buying it yourself and then finding sellers. 

Sure, maybe you are doing a service to the copper market, but still.  I bet bitcoin would have had been better, and I think that you had already given the dates that you got the copper  (was it 2022 that you got the copper?  or is that just my imagination?).. but I am a bit lazy to research back into your earlier posts on the topic..

and cpi went up 0.4%

"Google
AI Overview
The U.S. Consumer Price Index (CPI) rose by 0.4% in August, and the annual inflation rate was 2.9% for the 12 months ending in August. This annual increase is the largest seen since January. The "core" CPI, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, increased by 0.3% for the month and was up 3.1% over the past year. "

guess the copper tariffs of 50% are hurting the CPI. but not me.
and that is how I resolve my conflicts not by blaming orange man or the soon to be Mayor of NYC:
 Zohran Mamdani

I suppose in the end if you feel better about what you are doing and how you are "not affected" then that is the main thing. You could have had done worse by staying in the dollar, but instead you got into copper, but not bitcoin.

I see opportunity costs in your explanation of your choices, but apparently, you felt that you needed to have a more tangible diversification away from the dollar and also away from bitcoin.

this is a lot like the 60's when the extremists on both sides were doing killings and bombings left and right.
and the worst part was far too little people pointed this out .

Most picked their side and blamed the other.
We are headed for a lot of political unrest because people want to win and simply think they are good and other side is bad.

Can't they see they're being played like bagpipes, blown and squeezed until an awful noise is created?

This false dichotomy, right-wing versus left-wing, was created precisely to divide and conquer.

Many of us get played, and we are not always aware of how much we are being played.  It takes a long time to build up critical thinking skills, and sure some folks have better foundations than others, yet even the critical thinkers can sometimes get sucked into a bit of a trap.  I know that I have been tricked a lot of times in my life, and it is not easy, even if we might realize that we are being tricked.. there are also certain modern conveniences that many of us do not want to give up, including but not limited to yours truly.

When I scrolling, I find this.  

Someone posted this here before…
Here’s my response once again: “it’s a dumb statement, you can archive both”  i.e go to school and still ‘buy bitcoin’ it doesn’t affect any...

Surely it is good to work on your learning and your ability to learn, and surely there are criticisms of what some schools are teaching, so sometimes it can seem challenging to break through and to become a life long learner, whether through school or through other ways.

On a personal level, I am thinking that I would have not been able to achieve certain kinds of critical thinking skills (to the extent that I have them) and even job (income) prospects if I had not ended up going to school (including higher education). 

By the way, when I first graduated from high school, I thought that I really did not like school and/or the authority figures of teachers, and because of that, I had initially considered that college was not for me, so it took me a few years of trying forms of self-learning and really going a bit all over the place, before I honed on college course work as being a way to help me to be able to better help myself.  There could have had been some short-cuts, but higher learning really was not considered to be a practical route (at least in the earliest of my years and my upbringing).  Blame my parents... hahahahahaha

[OgNasty]

@OgNasty: While i value your Bitcoin mindset, you're clearly biased here. Also, you're speaking of "left" and replace it with "party" in the next sentence, which is quite manipulative (i can't tell if it was intended, i hope it wasn't). Democrats should condemn the killing, as well as the dividing and hating.
Or put another way: Would you be comfortable if you were called out as one of the "white people" whenever "black people" were killed by white(s)?
Come to your senses, man.
All of you.

I am 100% biased. This opinion I feel is common sense for anyone who is paying attention and I question how liberals can defend the actions of their party the last several years, but I don’t claim to be non-right leaning.

Black and white aren’t things you can control and don’t define who you are so I don’t think your translation makes any sense and comes off as unnecessarily inserting race due to your own way of viewing things. I don’t view left or right as white or black… This was clearly motivated by politics, not race. The two aren’t interchangeable in any scenario.

[OutOfMemory]

@OgNasty: While i value your Bitcoin mindset, you're clearly biased here. Also, you're speaking of "left" and replace it with "party" in the next sentence, which is quite manipulative (i can't tell if it was intended, i hope it wasn't). Democrats should condemn the killing, as well as the dividing and hating.
Or put another way: Would you be comfortable if you were called out as one of the "white people" whenever "black people" were killed by white(s)?
Come to your senses, man.
All of you.

I am 100% biased. This opinion I feel is common sense for anyone who is paying attention and I question how liberals can defend the actions of their party the last several years, but I don’t claim to be non-right leaning.

Black and white aren’t things you can control and don’t define who you are so I don’t think your translation makes any sense and comes off as unnecessarily inserting race due to your own way of viewing things. I don’t view left or right as white or black… This was clearly motivated by politics, not race. The two aren’t interchangeable in any scenario.

That was a very simple example to display "opposite" groups in a polar context (skin colors) not "races". (why do i think about Michael Jackson here, btw?)
I admit, it was a bad choice with plausible outcome. But in this case you're right, but argumenting outside of the "frame" of my simple comparison.
Sorry for being sloppy.

I also respect your self awareness, but i insist to make up my own mind, so do you, and everybody should do, too.

[Findingnemo]

On a personal level, I am thinking that I would have not been able to achieve certain kinds of critical thinking skills (to the extent that I have them) and even job (income) prospects if I had not ended up going to school (including higher education). 

Schools are the most accessible place to sharpen our skills and find who we are and what we supposed to do.

But in these days, people started treating education as a form of investment too, they spend money and expect a job that pays enough to cover the money spent on it.  And fails to acquire why they are supposed to get the education which is to increase their knowledge and they can use that to make more money.

Education is still valuable and it will always be but people should approach it as how you did not like some ROI and also they should avoid paying money to education as much as possible because it is one of the trap that most students get stuck in and can't pursure their goal just need to work something just to pay off their loans.

[OutOfMemory]

On a personal level, I am thinking that I would have not been able to achieve certain kinds of critical thinking skills (to the extent that I have them) and even job (income) prospects if I had not ended up going to school (including higher education).  

Schools are the most accessible place to sharpen our skills and find who we are and what we supposed to do.

But in these days, people started treating education as a form of investment too, they spend money and expect a job that pays enough to cover the money spent on it.  And fails to acquire why they are supposed to get the education which is to increase their knowledge and they can use that to make more money.

Education is still valuable and it will always be but people should approach it as how you did not like some ROI and also they should avoid paying money to education as much as possible because it is one of the trap that most students get stuck in and can't pursure their goal just need to work something just to pay off their loans.

Fair point, but again, regarding the meme and its implicated meaning(s), the (perceived) message up front is "Bitcoin does better than the school system".

EDIT: Don't forget, a meme is usually not about the content, but about the context.

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116k in one hour  

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what isthis Buddy?  

"fuck school? buy bitcoin?/ fuck buy? school bitcoin?/ fuck bitcoin? buy school?/ buy fuck? bitcoin school?"
ow Buddy, i sell on 114 to rebuy on 112500, but no, 116 is there... Could you go back a little before passing 116? Not? why? Will it go straight through? you are awesome dear BUDDY!!! hehehe!!! wait a minute.... it comes back at least in 113500 that I rebuy everything, and let's go to 130 then... Uh? after 116 pass? But if it doesn't go beyond 116? Are you going back? hmmm , because I was thinking of buying if passed 116 for us to go along, I still didn't want to stay here alone waiting for you to come back BUDDY!!.... hehehee!!! Here's a toast!!

[philipma1957]

this is a lot like the 60's when the extremists on both sides were doing killings and bombings left and right.

and the worst part was far too little people pointed this out .


Most picked their side and blamed the other.

We are headed for a lot of political unrest because people want to win and simply think they are good and other side is bad.

Can't they see they're being played like bagpipes, blown and squeezed until an awful noise is created?

This false dichotomy, right-wing versus left-wing, was created precisely to divide and conquer.

They can't if they could the current world politics would be far closer to centrist thought which is a shame as it is when the world works best.

[philipma1957]

I have to assume he is dead. The far left need reigning in, they are violent and unhinged. Something has to be done.

Why is it always "left" or "right" people - a life was taken why can't we just condemn violence in any form when it is completely unprovoked..

In all fairness, it isn’t always left or right, it is usually just the left… At least lately. They have definitely become the party of hate, violence, and crime. If that isn’t blatantly obvious to you from this week’s actions, you have blinders on. Calling out democrats for the behavior they incite is absolutely the right thing to do.

Don't let any actual facts get in the way of your analysis spin.

Like these facts?
"All Cartridges have engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology"

https://imgur.com/a/5DAhhvt - if image isn't loading

The point that I was making to criticize OgNasty was a bit broader, since he was proclaiming that almost all hate, violence and crime was coming from the left.

Surely in the Kirk shooting case there seems to be fairly strong evidence that the shooting was motivated by political differences of opinion, and so yeah, if the bullets are engraved then it becomes less ambiguous that the political motivations were intended to be known.

I think that the kinds of facts that I was suggesting OgNasty to be leaving out relates to evidence of hate, violence and/or crime that comes from right wing rather than left wing ideology.  From my perspective OgNasty is so obvious in his own ways of seeing the world and presenting the issue that there is hardly any need to counter it, except just to point out that he is making outrageous claims and failing/refusing to provide evidence for his outrageous claims (or to to rebutt the counter-evidence).

[edited out]

BTW Trump tariffs will make  thousands of dollars for me this year.

Copper cat 5e went from 50 cents a pound to 1.15 a pound and I have over 5 tons of it.

Your lucky break Phil. 

Now do the exercise of having had bought bitcoin with the money that you had used to buy that copper.  Where would you be?

Did you remember to subtract your costs from your profits?  Cost of storage and moving that stuff around? and the liquidity?  Buying it yourself and then finding sellers. 

Sure, maybe you are doing a service to the copper market, but still.  I bet bitcoin would have had been better, and I think that you had already given the dates that you got the copper  (was it 2022 that you got the copper?  or is that just my imagination?).. but I am a bit lazy to research back into your earlier posts on the topic..

and cpi went up 0.4%

"Google
AI Overview
The U.S. Consumer Price Index (CPI) rose by 0.4% in August, and the annual inflation rate was 2.9% for the 12 months ending in August. This annual increase is the largest seen since January. The "core" CPI, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, increased by 0.3% for the month and was up 3.1% over the past year. "

guess the copper tariffs of 50% are hurting the CPI. but not me.
and that is how I resolve my conflicts not by blaming orange man or the soon to be Mayor of NYC:
 Zohran Mamdani

I suppose in the end if you feel better about what you are doing and how you are "not affected" then that is the main thing. You could have had done worse by staying in the dollar, but instead you got into copper, but not bitcoin.

I see opportunity costs in your explanation of your choices, but apparently, you felt that you needed to have a more tangible diversification away from the dollar and also away from bitcoin.

this is a lot like the 60's when the extremists on both sides were doing killings and bombings left and right.
and the worst part was far too little people pointed this out .

Most picked their side and blamed the other.
We are headed for a lot of political unrest because people want to win and simply think they are good and other side is bad.

Can't they see they're being played like bagpipes, blown and squeezed until an awful noise is created?

This false dichotomy, right-wing versus left-wing, was created precisely to divide and conquer.

Many of us get played, and we are not always aware of how much we are being played.  It takes a long time to build up critical thinking skills, and sure some folks have better foundations than others, yet even the critical thinkers can sometimes get sucked into a bit of a trap.  I know that I have been tricked a lot of times in my life, and it is not easy, even if we might realize that we are being tricked.. there are also certain modern conveniences that many of us do not want to give up, including but not limited to yours truly.

When I scrolling, I find this.  

Someone posted this here before…
Here’s my response once again: “it’s a dumb statement, you can archive both”  i.e go to school and still ‘buy bitcoin’ it doesn’t affect any...

Surely it is good to work on your learning and your ability to learn, and surely there are criticisms of what some schools are teaching, so sometimes it can seem challenging to break through and to become a life long learner, whether through school or through other ways.

On a personal level, I am thinking that I would have not been able to achieve certain kinds of critical thinking skills (to the extent that I have them) and even job (income) prospects if I had not ended up going to school (including higher education). 

By the way, when I first graduated from high school, I thought that I really did not like school and/or the authority figures of teachers, and because of that, I had initially considered that college was not for me, so it took me a few years of trying forms of self-learning and really going a bit all over the place, before I honed on college course work as being a way to help me to be able to better help myself.  There could have had been some short-cuts, but higher learning really was not considered to be a practical route (at least in the earliest of my years and my upbringing).  Blame my parents... hahahahahaha

I purchased that copper wire for 2500 it will sell for 10,000 so 4x my money.

Btc was at 60k maybe 55k. So 2x my money.


BTW same goes for the silver I am selling at the best price on the planet.


Most of your insulting questioning of my lack of not have 10s of btc is directed at the wrong time frame.


I estimate if I date from 2017 to now I could I uld be plus 400k. With dca moves that were affordable. I AM PLUS 200K IN THAT TIME FRAME. But I am well postioned to mine a lot more at good profits .


My errors were made from 2012 to 2017 when I did p2p and treated btc like money.

I easy easy could have had 30 plus coins when it hit 19000 in 2017 I had 2-3 that loss won't be made up.

I do not have issues for what I have done since 2017 .