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November 05, 2025, 12:07:30 AM
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What are you talking about dude? People are panicking and saying that the bull run is over for days. That is not negativity? They are actually positive?  Cheesy Cheesy
We are all gonna die.
We are all already dead.
Alive, but dead inside.

Since being Alive, we then should be hopeful that things might just turn around for the better all hopes should not just be lost.

Abandon all hope ye who enter here
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November 05, 2025, 12:08:14 AM

who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Im water maxxing. No need for fancy expensive ramen.

Water? Fish fornicate in it. There are much better beverages. Also screw the ramen.




Buy when you can, sell only when you absolutely must. Ignore the price.

Enjoy life.

Look at that marbling...

Not all water tastes the same. Try the water if you ever decide to go to Austria.
In Salzburg they have drinking fountains everywhere and it tastes incredible.

How are you going to buy more Bitcoin if you don't tighten the budget? Might as well starve to buy more BTC.
Or is that somehow unreasonable?   Tongue

you sell all your copper and silver at a nice profit giving yourself the chance to buy a large amount of dip.

I went hard at coin today buying a nice  couple of chunks in the 99-101 zones.

Still have a lot of powder left if we really tank.


I cut back to from brisket to  burgers today on they are sale at 3.50 bucks a pound. got a 4 pound box for 14 bucks.

https://philly-gourmet.com/100-beef-patties/

this is the life of a diabetic with very good cholesterol

Beef
Chicken
Eggs
Cheese
bacon
biltong
some veggies
whipped cream
butter
hard liquor neat

A1c is around 5.8

no bread
no pasta
very little cake mostly cheesecake
no beer
no soda
very little wine


I miss the bread the most


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November 05, 2025, 12:17:24 AM

Huge $112 Billion volume in 24 hours  Shocked

Perhaps movements of coins from weaker hands to stronger hands?

I already said it.

The more you post, the more you show that you are full of shit in terms of trying to spin matters.  Of course you are not the only one, in your choice to exaggerate and act like you are some kind of a smart know it all, and trying to act as if the negative sentiment about bitcoin's negative price is worse this time than it has been in previous times, when it is not, and has not been.  You are spinning a largely irrelevant point with an attempt to denigrate OG members and with a kind of recency bias in your characterization of facts that are hardly easy to prove in either direction, even though you want to assert changes in sentiment as if they were some kind of a fact that you have observed in your ultimate wisdom.

So fuck off with your ongoing and incessant spin. It is likely mean-spirited, disingenuous and unnecessary..  
What is with this crazy talk? I have no idea how it was before in actual negativity and I barely know anything.

Yeah.  You are just making shit up, and trying to make it seem that current levels of negativity are materially notable when they are not. yet you keep harping on it as if you were making some kind of profound and meaningful observation. 

I know mostly the positive times and recently many people here have been very depressive. That is a fact.

Yeah.  When the price is going up members tend to be more excited and optimistic and when the price is going down they (we) tend to be more pessimistic. So what?  Sure there are exceptions in terms of some members having the opposite sentiment, but generally speaking guys who participate in this thread are tending to error on the side of accumulating and holding coins.. Sure there are some traders too, but the general composition would be guys accumulating coins.. and of course, the longer that guys have been in bitcoin, the more likely they would have had accumulated more coins, even though there are exceptions to that too, so we might not be able to generalize if we might be referring to the specific situation of any one guy.   

The posts are there.

So?

I am asking for more positivity

You are a cheerleader?  Guys can do what they want in terms of their attitude.  Sure some of them are going to be wrong, like LFC when he loses his 0.001 BTC on or before March 31, 2026 - hahahahahaha . 

In the meantime, he can whine away, and for now, he is seeming to be on the correct side of matters, but let's see how it plays out over the next 5 months, and sure guys here are not necessarily going to agree with each other, even if some guys are negative and others are positive in regards to the market and/or sentiments about bitcoin... yet the mere fact that some guys are negative or seemingly more guys are negative while the BTC price is going down, hardly seems like news.

and even that you call mean-spirited. How is that not crazy talk?

I think that I already sufficiently explained and backed up my comments.  I see no reason to dwell  on this more until you come up with some new thing that you want to spin.

Should I ask people to become more depressive instead?

Do what you like, and if you are doing things that seem weird, you might end up receiving some backlash. 

Maybe you should consider your own sentiment and what you are doing in regards to your own bitcoin stash rather than proclaiming that you understand supposed trends in this thread (or the larger bitcoin space - such as twitter - to the extent twitter matters?) that you supposedly believe to be going on in regards to OG sentiments in regards to bitcoin and/or its prices.

Blaming me that others are writing that the bull run is over, only because I am new. Outstanding OG behavior.  Grin

I doubt that you were being blamed for making accurate and/or meaningful observations.

You were being blamed for spinning and spouting out bullshit.

Is the market performance affecting your positivity too? Take a chill pill, maybe ask the mushroom guy for some assistance.  Grin

More non-factual spinning and deflection.

It seems that you got it all figured out - an armchair psychologist, and someone who had been unfairly blamed for supposed innocent posts.. Poor lil thing.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes   I am sure that you meant the best in your various observations and characterizations of OG sentiment.

It will be interesting to see the leverage data when all of the dust settles. I wonder if people are adding to their short positions or taking profits during this drop. If they are adding to their short positions then they are going to have to buy at some point in the future to close out and take profits. I imagine that will cause a bounce. It’s been a pretty painful month for BTC (-17%).

4 days into the month. So horrible and what blood.   Shocked Shocked

If the shorts build up, then surely we know that they don't always get their way.  Let's see what happens in the coming weeks.  The next two weeks are critical, as they say.

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How are you going to buy more Bitcoin if you don't tighten the budget? Might as well starve to buy more BTC.
Or is that somehow unreasonable?   Tongue

I would imagine that some guys sell on a regular basis based on price and/or based on time, so there are likely ways to buy back on dips and also frequently there will be other sources of income, once a guy gets to a status of having enough bitcoin or more than enough bitcoin. .so then the price might not be a major factor, even though there likely is some tailoring buys and sells around broader cycle kinds of ideas in terms of considering is the BTC price generally UP, DOWN or FLAT.

Am I being too general?

I think that my point is that there is a difference if a guy mostly has gotten through his accumulation phase, so there would be less emphasis on accumulation.. except maybe on dips and/or if some extra bitcoin might have had been sold (to generate cash) on rips.. and sure accounting for any other income sources that might be part of the picture.

Surely some guys might not be sure if they have enough bitcoin or more than  enough bitcoin, so they might not be sure if they are mostly through their bitcoin accumulation phase yet or not.

I understand that you may or may not have reached a status of overaccumulation, since your forum registration date is August 2017... so yeah, we have to go somewhat based on our own timeline and how much corn we might have had been able to accumulate and then how we might have had managed our maintenance of it in the event that we might be able to transition into sustainable withdrawal of one form or another.
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November 05, 2025, 12:17:31 AM
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who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Don't forget the @Searing "enhancement"-plop a hot dog inside.

Another comment: interestingly, rice does not contain all essential amino acids.
Rice is low on lysine, which is an essential amino acid (essential means human body does not synthesize it in sufficient amounts or not at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acid

However, beans have plenty of lysine, so rice with beans combo has everything as far as proteins are concerned, hence students and other low income people always use this for a nutritious meal.
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It will be interesting to see the leverage data when all of the dust settles. I wonder if people are adding to their short positions or taking profits during this drop. If they are adding to their short positions then they are going to have to buy at some point in the future to close out and take profits. I imagine that will cause a bounce. It’s been a pretty painful month for BTC (-17%).

I think BTC will more than just bounce back, and do it promptly. I tend to agree with what the analysts say (quoted below) will happen by year-end...  


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Analysts Stand By Lofty Year-End Forecasts

In early October, Citigroup projected a year-end Bitcoin price of approximately $133,000, conditional on continued ETF inflows and increased demand from DAT firms. Standard Chartered offered an even higher forecast, predicting Bitcoin could hit $200,000 if weekly ETF inflows maintain the $500 million level.

Similarly, JPMorgan projected a year-end price of $165,000, arguing that Bitcoin was undervalued relative to gold. Goldman Sachs also looked to gold for a reference point, suggesting that if gold were to reach $5,000 per ounce, Bitcoin could potentially surge to $220,000.

https://news.superex.com/articles/8245.html
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November 05, 2025, 12:25:04 AM

I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).
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How are you going to buy more Bitcoin if you don't tighten the budget? Might as well starve to buy more BTC.
Or is that somehow unreasonable?   Tongue

I would imagine that some guys sell on a regular basis based on price and/or based on time, so there are likely ways to buy back on dips and also frequently there will be other sources of income, once a guy gets to a status of having enough bitcoin or more than enough bitcoin. .so then the price might not be a major factor, even though there likely is some tailoring buys and sells around broader cycle kinds of ideas in terms of considering is the BTC price generally UP, DOWN or FLAT.

Am I being too general?

I think that my point is that there is a difference if a guy mostly has gotten through his accumulation phase, so there would be less emphasis on accumulation.. except maybe on dips and/or if some extra bitcoin might have had been sold (to generate cash) on rips.. and sure accounting for any other income sources that might be part of the picture.

Surely some guys might not be sure if they have enough bitcoin or more than  enough bitcoin, so they might not be sure if they are mostly through their bitcoin accumulation phase yet or not.

I understand that you may or may not have reached a status of overaccumulation, since your forum registration date is August 2017... so yeah, we have to go somewhat based on our own timeline and how much corn we might have had been able to accumulate and then how we might have had managed our maintenance of it in the event that we might be able to transition into sustainable withdrawal of one form or another.


Is there such a thing as overaccumulation of Bitcoin for a Bitcoiner? It is more about passion and dedication than it is about being wealthy enough or having achieved some sort of a goal with Bitcoin. The game is clear to everyone: There are a limited amount of sats in this world. Grab them while they're cheap.
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November 05, 2025, 12:41:07 AM

You have been added to the positive Nancy tabulation and compilings.

@BitHodlers - Just trying to be helpful with info I've come across, nothing more...

Try to overlook the sarcastic accusations and totally unnecessary beatdowns that are all too common here from some...  Sad
  
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Huge $113 Billion volume in 24 hours  Shocked

Perhaps movements of coins from weaker hands to stronger hands?


Perhaps so, JJG... Hoping stronger hands is where the coins end up! I'm sure a lot will go to Blackrock and Fidelity for their ETFs that people are buying a lot of, and hodling...  
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I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).

Maybe he has 10,000 in another wallet.

If I had 20,000 coins I would certainly need at least  100,000,000 cash
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I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).

Maybe he has 10,000 in another wallet.

If I had 20,000 coins I would certainly need at least  100,000,000 cash

Phil - Maybe he owns a copper mine!  Grin

Have you got much copper remaining to sell?
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I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).

Maybe he has 10,000 in another wallet.

If I had 20,000 coins I would certainly need at least  100,000,000 cash

I can imagine what to do with 100mil, but I am at a loss as to what one may do with a billion.
Buy a couple of G550 plus four 50 mil $$ houses...and still have $700 mil, which could collect 28mil/year in interest on short term treasuries?
A billion is certainly an excess, no doubt about it.
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Every panic creates patience.
Every red tests whether your belief
or just dopamine from green .

I just admitted to the bear training camp.
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I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).

But who says he's selling the full 10K?

Also, "addresses linked to exchanges" sets some spidey senses tingling. Maybe.
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I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).

But who says he's selling the full 10K?

Also, "addresses linked to exchanges" sets some spidey senses tingling. Maybe.

Yeah, all we know is that 10K was transferred. We don't know how much of the 10k was actually sold...
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I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).

Maybe he has 10,000 in another wallet.

If I had 20,000 coins I would certainly need at least  100,000,000 cash

I can imagine what to do with 100mil, but I am at a loss as to what one may do with a billion.
Buy a couple of G550 plus four 50 mil $$ houses...and still have $700 mil, which could collect 28mil/year in interest on short term treasuries?
A billion is certainly an excess, no doubt about it.

Well I am 68 and 100,000,000 clean is far more than I need. I would enjoy it.
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I declare that OG who sold 10K btc acquired in 2011 at $1.54 for $103-104K as being a currently weak hands mindtrust2...
...I guess he wanted to have a "cool" billion in cap gains, lol.

While he would be paying his 240 mil (minimal) in cap gains (if a US inhabitant), and losing his three comma status, bitcoin might rise above 140 thou.
In a long term analysis, selling at 104K is only marginally better than selling at 54K (a la Germany).

Maybe he has 10,000 in another wallet.

If I had 20,000 coins I would certainly need at least  100,000,000 cash

Phil - Maybe he owns a copper mine!  Grin

Have you got much copper remaining to sell?improvement


Heavy gauge copper everywhere here!







Silver is almost gone maybe 3600 out of 20,000
Copper is almost gone. Maybe 1000 dollars and this is just copper from home improvement
And selling the forever stamps maybe 3000

So maybe 7600 left but I sold over 22,000

Waiting to drop back under 100k will buy more.
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And that might be the most beautiful ribeye I have ever seen. 

Actually, that's a little too lean. These are better:



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