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[OgNasty]

The S&P just downgraded Tether because of their exposure to Bitcoin and gold. I think that says a lot about whether or not they will be including MSTR in their index on December 5th. That was sort of the last Hail Mary for those who wanted to see a massive price increase before year end. Hopefully the relief rally continues anyway.

[OutOfMemory]

some bold shit

You won't get what you are looking for. I don't understand either why you have your BTC at Fidelity. Unless one can reap some kind of tax benefits or something I would never hold mine like this. Sometimes I even forget where they are that's how deeply stored they are.  

Bitcoin also benefits from people doing self-custody. It reduces risk for everyone involved, overall. Let those that have to legally use a custodian like this do it, but normal people shouldn't IMO unless they are completely incompetent digitally speaking.

You nailed it. You have to understand Bitcoin to grasp this.
If it's fully in the hand of custodians, it's no more Bitcoin, it's no more peer2peer anyway, but something like a paper-gateway to a centralized virtual asset.
I doubt everyone that claims to have a high IQ not understanding this. Or he/her just lacks education in Bitcoin. On the other hand, it's an effort of watching Youtube videos for 30 minutes to get the idea. If one still doesn't manage to work it out, he can't have much juice in his/her brain.

And with a bad Karma like you-know-who, one is likely not a a fan of freedom.
Well, maybe freedom for himself or a few, but not real freedom, which is for all.

Before getting too philisophical: Assholes have attributes. They put out shit and they smell. They should be easy to identify.

[Hueristic]

Why would MSTR move BTC to Fidelity if Fidelity cannot be trusted to custody BTC as some of you idiots claim?
► https://phemex.com/news/article/strategy-transfers-58390-btc-to-fidelity-custody-reducing-coinbase-reliance-39621
Some of you look more stupid each day as you are proven wrong and flat out liars. I'm looking at you JJG and OOM  - you dumbasses have shit on your face...

Individuals are not the same as institutions, --snip--

And apart from that, it's a different game for Fidelity too. They can't screw multisig custody, at least not without help from the other signers, but imagine they could and did. The torrent of shit moving with a multi-billion lawsuit could drag even Fidelity down. And I'm pretty sure Saylor would sue the living daylights out of them without a second thought. I imagine the language in the custody deal is tight and has been reviewed by a pack of lawyers on both sides.

On the contrary, dealing with, say, 10000 small fries - each holding, say, $5000-$10000 or so of Fidelity's ETF - that's a whole different game. Do Fidelity hold THOSE cornz in multisig? If anybody thinks so, well, think better. They don't. They have good reasons not to. And who would the other multi-signers be anyway? The ETF holders one by one? I don't think so, either. Did any ETF holder ask Fidelity's lawyers to rephrase or amend any part of the contract? Aha. That's what I thought, too.

If Fidelity plays with those cornz as if they were their own, or if things go south for any other reason, they might have wording in the ETF charter that keeps them safe, as long as they can keep a convenient (for them) narrative. Even if they don't, suppose for a moment that they are caught with their hands in the cookie jar and it becomes semi-public knowledge (or just likely) that they did screw up or play foul. If it's only a few small fish being fucked over, who's gonna sue? Each single small fish? Reconsider. It's a whole different game.

I'm talking about this from experience, specifically with Fidelity. If they can fuck you over, THEY WILL. The loopholes to go through in order to be able to sue are such that it's practically impossible without a class action - unless you've got a lot of time and money on your hands.

@d_eddie - I've had many millions of dollars in Fidelity accounts for many years and Fidelity has never fucked me over.  

I think it is you that needs to think better!    After reading the information below, don't you think so? Tell the truth - don't lie like JJG and OOM...

~~~~~~~~~~~

HAHAHA, Do you not understand "In House" Literally means One Point of Failure? 

Your pretty stupid for a Genius.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[BTCETFInvestor]

Hmm, not saying either way but in this text, the phrases that stand out to me are "proprietary cold storage system" and "mirrors the principle"

@Richy_T:

Those Fidelity phrases means they use their own private, highly secure, offline storage system for Bitcoin, which aligns with the industry's best practices for maximizing asset security.

Here is the break down:

Proprietary cold storage system:

Proprietary: This means Fidelity built and owns its own technology for storing digital assets, rather than using a third-party crypto custodian (like Blackrock). By keeping this in-house, Fidelity can maintain full control over the process and does not need to disclose the specific security measures to competitors or the public.

Cold storage: This refers to keeping the cryptographic keys—the private codes that prove ownership of Bitcoin—completely offline. Because the keys are not connected to the internet, they are virtually impossible for remote hackers to steal. Fidelity also keeps its cold storage in hardened physical locations that are "TEMPEST shielded and radio frequency blocked".

System: This indicates that Fidelity's security is not just a single measure but a comprehensive, multi-layered process. It includes multiple security checks, secure facilities with 24/7 monitoring, redundant backups, and other operational measures to eliminate a single point of failure.

"Mirrors the principle": This phrase is a promise that Fidelity's institutional-grade system follows the same core security logic as self-custody - the very "principle" that gives Bitcoin its strength.

Additionally:
 
Decentralized security: The primary principle of Bitcoin security is that the key-holder has control. A private, offline system mirrors this by isolating the assets from online threats, similar to how an individual's hardware wallet operates.

Minimal online exposure: Like a self-custody wallet, which only goes online to sign a transaction, Fidelity's system keeps the bulk of its assets offline. A small portion is held in "hot" (online) wallets for daily trading, but the vast majority remains in secure cold storage.

[BitHodlers]

I would bet every sat I own that I am currently holding more than 10x as much BTC as you without the slightest worry.

Bitcoin nearing the top of its trading range in this downward trend. With any luck we’ll see it blast through the resistance at $93K instead of another rejection. Although I would have preferred it stayed low until the first for my monthly DCA buy.

That you feel the need to write this is not any better than the people doing IQ statements. My dear, nothing like this is ever going to fill that void in your empty life. No amount of self-loving statements help with that. Try a shrink if you can't resolve it yourself with proper behavior among other individuals of our species.

@BitHodlers - Get over you newfound love for some of these idiots! I despise stupid people, liars, bullys and scumbag thugs like JJG and OOM.  

You will not find a fan of custodians in me. I may provide a moderate view but I am generally against custodians except where absolutely necessary, legally or otherwise. It would be better if you focused on arguments rather than emotions, no?

some bold shit

You won't get what you are looking for. I don't understand either why you have your BTC at Fidelity. Unless one can reap some kind of tax benefits or something I would never hold mine like this. Sometimes I even forget where they are that's how deeply stored they are.  

Bitcoin also benefits from people doing self-custody. It reduces risk for everyone involved, overall. Let those that have to legally use a custodian like this do it, but normal people shouldn't IMO unless they are completely incompetent digitally speaking.

You nailed it. You have to understand Bitcoin to grasp this.
If it's fully in the hand of custodians, it's no more Bitcoin, it's no more peer2peer anyway, but something like a paper-gateway to a centralized virtual asset.
I doubt everyone that claims to have a high IQ not understanding this. Or he/her just lacks education in Bitcoin. On the other hand, it's an effort of watching Youtube videos for 30 minutes to get the idea. If one still doesn't manage to work it out, he can't have much juice in his/her brain.

And with a bad Karma like you-know-who, one is likely not a a fan of freedom.
Well, maybe freedom for himself or a few, but not real freedom, which is for all.

Before getting too philisophical: Assholes have attributes. They put out shit and they smell. They should be easy to identify.

From my observation there is no correlation with any particular attributes or life situation and proper understanding of Bitcoin. Some people have very high IQ or are otherwise very smart but they don't get it. Others have experience in one of the most relevant fields but they don't get it. Some people have even joined Bitcoin a while ago but primarily use exchanges or other custodian services. They don't get it. Basically someone who is new could get it faster than someone who has been here a long time, sadly. Some people sometimes even claim that understanding Bitcoin is easy, at which I laugh at of course.

It is not a binary thing as in either you understand or don't, there are many layers and levels of understanding here. Some people know not-your-keys-not-your-Bitcoin but they don't know anything about many key concepts used in it. It is not so clear, it seems that knowledge and understanding of Bitcoin comes in many mixes and matches.

I have never stored Bitcoin anywhere else other than my own wallets. It just does not make sense to do it any other way, even if you consider the risk of loss through whatever method that it may occur. The responsible thing is to accept a loss, learn from it and make sure it does not happen again. The immature thing is to run crying to your parent and ask him to take care of your Bitcoin. Or that's just my view.  

[BTCETFInvestor]

I would bet every sat I own that I am currently holding more than 10x as much BTC as you without the slightest worry.

Bitcoin nearing the top of its trading range in this downward trend. With any luck we’ll see it blast through the resistance at $93K instead of another rejection. Although I would have preferred it stayed low until the first for my monthly DCA buy.

That's funny... 

[OutOfMemory]

From my observation there is no correlation with any particular attributes or life situation and proper understanding of Bitcoin. Some people have very high IQ or are otherwise very smart but they don't get it. Others have experience in one of the most relevant fields but they don't get it. Some people have even joined Bitcoin a while ago but primarily use exchanges or other custodian services. They don't get it. Basically someone who is new could get it faster than someone who has been here a long time, sadly. Some people sometimes even claim that understanding Bitcoin is easy, at which I laugh at of course.

It is not a binary thing as in either you understand or don't, there are many layers and levels of understanding here. Some people know not-your-keys-not-your-Bitcoin but they don't know anything about many key concepts used in it. It is not so clear, it seems that knowledge and understanding of Bitcoin comes in many mixes and matches.

I have never stored Bitcoin anywhere else other than my own wallets. It just does not make sense to do it any other way, even if you consider the risk of loss through whatever method that it may occur. The responsible thing is to accept a loss, learn from it and make sure it does not happen again. The immature thing is to run crying to your parent and ask him to take care of your Bitcoin. Or that's just my view.  

That depends on your definition of "proper" then.
Maybe i wasn't clear enough, let's try again:
I do think that understanding is binary. Let me be more precise: The moment it clicks what Bitcoin is, how the fiat financial system works and those who gain the most of it are among the few of us. It doesn't need much to understand at all. There are plenty of simple examples and analogies for the less talented thinkers to get the idea. And getting or not getting the idea is pretty binary, imho, or isn't it?
How one likes the idea and how he uses it is completely up to himself.

[Hueristic]

Hmm, not saying either way but in this text, the phrases that stand out to me are "proprietary cold storage system" and "mirrors the principle"

@Richy_T:

Those Fidelity phrases means they use their own private, highly secure, offline storage system for Bitcoin, which aligns with the industry's best practices for maximizing asset security.

Here is the break down:

Proprietary cold storage system:

Proprietary: This means Fidelity built and owns its own technology for storing digital assets, rather than using a third-party crypto custodian (like Blackrock). By keeping this in-house, Fidelity can maintain full control over the process and does not need to disclose the specific security measures to competitors or the public.

Cold storage: This refers to keeping the cryptographic keys—the private codes that prove ownership of Bitcoin—completely offline. Because the keys are not connected to the internet, they are virtually impossible for remote hackers to steal. Fidelity also keeps its cold storage in hardened physical locations that are "TEMPEST shielded and radio frequency blocked".

System: This indicates that Fidelity's security is not just a single measure but a comprehensive, multi-layered process. It includes multiple security checks, secure facilities with 24/7 monitoring, redundant backups, and other operational measures to eliminate a single point of failure.

"Mirrors the principle": This phrase is a promise that Fidelity's institutional-grade system follows the same core security logic as self-custody - the very "principle" that gives Bitcoin its strength.

Additionally:
 
Decentralized security: The primary principle of Bitcoin security is that the key-holder has control. A private, offline system mirrors this by isolating the assets from online threats, similar to how an individual's hardware wallet operates.

Minimal online exposure: Like a self-custody wallet, which only goes online to sign a transaction, Fidelity's system keeps the bulk of its assets offline. A small portion is held in "hot" (online) wallets for daily trading, but the vast majority remains in secure cold storage.

You just don't understand your preaching centralized solutions to people that know better!

[BitHodlers]

From my observation there is no correlation with any particular attributes or life situation and proper understanding of Bitcoin. Some people have very high IQ or are otherwise very smart but they don't get it. Others have experience in one of the most relevant fields but they don't get it. Some people have even joined Bitcoin a while ago but primarily use exchanges or other custodian services. They don't get it. Basically someone who is new could get it faster than someone who has been here a long time, sadly. Some people sometimes even claim that understanding Bitcoin is easy, at which I laugh at of course.

It is not a binary thing as in either you understand or don't, there are many layers and levels of understanding here. Some people know not-your-keys-not-your-Bitcoin but they don't know anything about many key concepts used in it. It is not so clear, it seems that knowledge and understanding of Bitcoin comes in many mixes and matches.

I have never stored Bitcoin anywhere else other than my own wallets. It just does not make sense to do it any other way, even if you consider the risk of loss through whatever method that it may occur. The responsible thing is to accept a loss, learn from it and make sure it does not happen again. The immature thing is to run crying to your parent and ask him to take care of your Bitcoin. Or that's just my view.  

That depends on your definition of "proper" then.
Maybe i wasn't clear enough, let's try again:
I do think that understanding is binary. Let me be more precise: The moment it clicks what Bitcoin is, how the fiat financial system works and those who gain the most of it are among the few of us. It doesn't need much to understand at all. There are plenty of simple examples and analogies for the less talented thinkers to get the idea. And getting or not getting the idea is pretty binary, imho, or isn't it?
How one likes the idea and how he uses it is completely up to himself.

Yes! I was actually considering whether to add something like that perspective to my previous post. The complete understanding, the clicking as you call it.. If you ever truly get it, you would never back out of Bitcoin so in a way that is definitely binary.

My general belief is that nobody who truly got it could ever exit Bitcoin completely, otherwise they didn't really get it. No matter how much that people claimed that they did or believed that they did. I don't think there exists one person that was truly red pilled but has later withdrawn from Bitcoin or worse to shitcoins. I think for this it is good to pull out the quote from our Messiah.  

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry, - S. Nakamoto

[BTCETFInvestor]

Hmm, not saying either way but in this text, the phrases that stand out to me are "proprietary cold storage system" and "mirrors the principle"

@Richy_T:

Those Fidelity phrases means they use their own private, highly secure, offline storage system for Bitcoin, which aligns with the industry's best practices for maximizing asset security.

Here is the break down:

Proprietary cold storage system:

Proprietary: This means Fidelity built and owns its own technology for storing digital assets, rather than using a third-party crypto custodian (like Blackrock). By keeping this in-house, Fidelity can maintain full control over the process and does not need to disclose the specific security measures to competitors or the public.

Cold storage: This refers to keeping the cryptographic keys—the private codes that prove ownership of Bitcoin—completely offline. Because the keys are not connected to the internet, they are virtually impossible for remote hackers to steal. Fidelity also keeps its cold storage in hardened physical locations that are "TEMPEST shielded and radio frequency blocked".

System: This indicates that Fidelity's security is not just a single measure but a comprehensive, multi-layered process. It includes multiple security checks, secure facilities with 24/7 monitoring, redundant backups, and other operational measures to eliminate a single point of failure.

"Mirrors the principle": This phrase is a promise that Fidelity's institutional-grade system follows the same core security logic as self-custody - the very "principle" that gives Bitcoin its strength.

Additionally:
 
Decentralized security: The primary principle of Bitcoin security is that the key-holder has control. A private, offline system mirrors this by isolating the assets from online threats, similar to how an individual's hardware wallet operates.

Minimal online exposure: Like a self-custody wallet, which only goes online to sign a transaction, Fidelity's system keeps the bulk of its assets offline. A small portion is held in "hot" (online) wallets for daily trading, but the vast majority remains in secure cold storage.

You just don't understand your preaching centralized solutions to people that know better!

Haha! Some people here just think they know better, but they're lowlife stupid idiots. I think you know that!   

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[BTCETFInvestor]

From my observation there is no correlation with any particular attributes or life situation and proper understanding of Bitcoin. Some people have very high IQ or are otherwise very smart but they don't get it. Others have experience in one of the most relevant fields but they don't get it. Some people have even joined Bitcoin a while ago but primarily use exchanges or other custodian services. They don't get it. Basically someone who is new could get it faster than someone who has been here a long time, sadly. Some people sometimes even claim that understanding Bitcoin is easy, at which I laugh at of course.

It is not a binary thing as in either you understand or don't, there are many layers and levels of understanding here. Some people know not-your-keys-not-your-Bitcoin but they don't know anything about many key concepts used in it. It is not so clear, it seems that knowledge and understanding of Bitcoin comes in many mixes and matches.

I have never stored Bitcoin anywhere else other than my own wallets. It just does not make sense to do it any other way, even if you consider the risk of loss through whatever method that it may occur. The responsible thing is to accept a loss, learn from it and make sure it does not happen again. The immature thing is to run crying to your parent and ask him to take care of your Bitcoin. Or that's just my view.  

That depends on your definition of "proper" then.
Maybe i wasn't clear enough, let's try again:
I do think that understanding is binary. Let me be more precise: The moment it clicks what Bitcoin is, how the fiat financial system works and those who gain the most of it are among the few of us. It doesn't need much to understand at all. There are plenty of simple examples and analogies for the less talented thinkers to get the idea. And getting or not getting the idea is pretty binary, imho, or isn't it?
How one likes the idea and how he uses it is completely up to himself.

Yes! I was actually considering whether to add something like that perspective to my previous post. The complete understanding, the clicking as you call it.. If you ever truly get it, you would never back out of Bitcoin so in a way that is definitely binary.

My general belief is that nobody who truly got it could ever exit Bitcoin completely, otherwise they didn't really get it. No matter how much that people claimed that they did or believed that they did. I don't think there exists one person that was truly red pilled but has later withdrawn from Bitcoin or worse to shitcoins. I think for this it is good to pull out the quote from our Messiah.  

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry, - S. Nakamoto

@BitHodlers - Do you understand that OOM and JJG are licking their chops, looking forward to jumping your ass?

[cAPSLOCK]

Hmm, not saying either way but in this text, the phrases that stand out to me are "proprietary cold storage system" and "mirrors the principle"

@Richy_T:

Those Fidelity phrases means they use their own private, highly secure, offline storage system for Bitcoin, which aligns with the industry's best practices for maximizing asset security.

Here is the break down:

Proprietary cold storage system:

Proprietary: This means Fidelity built and owns its own technology for storing digital assets, rather than using a third-party crypto custodian (like Blackrock). By keeping this in-house, Fidelity can maintain full control over the process and does not need to disclose the specific security measures to competitors or the public.

Cold storage: This refers to keeping the cryptographic keys—the private codes that prove ownership of Bitcoin—completely offline. Because the keys are not connected to the internet, they are virtually impossible for remote hackers to steal. Fidelity also keeps its cold storage in hardened physical locations that are "TEMPEST shielded and radio frequency blocked".

System: This indicates that Fidelity's security is not just a single measure but a comprehensive, multi-layered process. It includes multiple security checks, secure facilities with 24/7 monitoring, redundant backups, and other operational measures to eliminate a single point of failure.

"Mirrors the principle": This phrase is a promise that Fidelity's institutional-grade system follows the same core security logic as self-custody - the very "principle" that gives Bitcoin its strength.

Additionally:
 
Decentralized security: The primary principle of Bitcoin security is that the key-holder has control. A private, offline system mirrors this by isolating the assets from online threats, similar to how an individual's hardware wallet operates.

Minimal online exposure: Like a self-custody wallet, which only goes online to sign a transaction, Fidelity's system keeps the bulk of its assets offline. A small portion is held in "hot" (online) wallets for daily trading, but the vast majority remains in secure cold storage.

You just don't understand your preaching centralized solutions to people that know better!

It's astonishing how missing the point that whole thing is.

Catch phrases like industry standard.  And I'm glad that Fidelity is using multi-signature and proprietary multi-key schemes to protect their horde.  That's a good thing.  And hopefully they hired some cracking cryptographers to develop the in house stuff. 

But the key is FIDELITY is the single point of failure and trust.

Of course, Fidelity is going to hold their Bitcoin in a sophisticated and secure way. Lol.

The bolded word is the key, but that's evidently too nuanced.

Everything is trade offs. I am not anti custodian, but somehow equating custodial Bitcoin to the self custody Bitcoin is very foolish.

But this also has what looks like a bullet list that's been reduced down to highlighted words followed by colons, phrases that are separated by dashes, and even em dashes, this is almost certainly AI.

Just popped it into GPTzero... pretty accurate tool by the way. Lol

GPTZero AI Detection
Model 3.13b
We are highly confident this text was AI generated
Probability breakdown
98% AI generated
2% Mixed
0% Human

[BitHodlers]

@BitHodlers - Do you understand that OOM and JJG are licking their chops, looking forward to jumping your ass?

Yeah but even if they do that, so what? Isn't growing a thicker skin better than whining about it..?

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

The question is, how do we keep our balance on the roof? How do we keep our keys safe all by ourselves? How do we avoid selling our Bitcoin to evil people? How do we hold or trade through the waves that come in the Bitcoin world?  And of course more to the point. How do we know what day we can say mean things to J? How do we know how not to get a bat slap? How do we know how to keep respecting each other and having fun doing it at the same time, hopefully?

Schrödinger's cat.

"We" (royal, maybe?) know and "we" don't know all at the same time.

 

Well then... The corn riseth slightly.

I think it's shorts being liquidated. It was widely predicted at this level. If this unrolls nicely, it could bring us to 96k soonish.

In 2014 2013, during the American version of La Festa del Ringraziamento myself and my family were camping as we did often during those times. "Thankscamping" we called it".

I was staring at my phone a lot that long weekend.  Disbelief that Bitcoin had just gone over four figures.
This was also the trip on which I met Joe Exotic in person. If you'd never heard of him, Google him. He wasn't quite famous yet.

I would like to see it unroll the way you were predicting. It's probably too much to ask that it top 100 again, just to do an echo of 11 12 years ago.  But I've waited this long.

FTFY

Yes.  Time flies when you are having fun, and my memory is not that great, either.

 


Yet, at least I still (knock on wood) have some relative abilities to surf the intertoobs and to look at dee histories to see where the BTC prices were in T-day 2014 as compared to where it was in T-day 2013... ..


Just to let you know (Ok... now I am purposefully being annoying), those kinds of histories are captured in what is called dee  "BTC price charts."  

The S&P just downgraded Tether because of their exposure to Bitcoin and gold. I think that says a lot about whether or not they will be including MSTR in their index on December 5th. That was sort of the last Hail Mary for those who wanted to see a massive price increase before year end. Hopefully the relief rally continues anyway.

Yep.. some of the BIGGER status quo players are going to have to get drug into bitcoin while kicking and screaming.


 

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"Mirrors the principle": This phrase is a promise that Fidelity's institutional-grade system follows the same core security logic as self-custody - the very "principle" that gives Bitcoin its strength.

Mirrors the principle means that they hold whatever they can legally get away with, and not necessarily the underlying asset (in this case bitcoin).

I had seen some other language like that with various ETFs (maybe it was the 10k related paperwork or some of the pre-filing bullshit) that said something to the effect that the ETF providers could hold whatever the fuck they wanted that was in the ballpark of potentially and roughly covering the value of the underlying (namely the BTC - so they did not have to actually hold the BTC in equivalent numbers that are represented in the shares that the scheming twats had issued).

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[edited out]

@BitHodlers - Do you understand that OOM and JJG are licking their chops, looking forward to jumping your ass?

Yep.

"We" are licking our chops.

Any minute that BitHodlers "screws up," "we" are going to pounce on his ass.



He better watch out.

[BTCETFInvestor]

@BitHodlers - Do you understand that OOM and JJG are licking their chops, looking forward to jumping your ass?

Yeah but even if they do that, so what? Isn't growing a thicker skin better than whining about it..?

@BitHodlers - You actually surprised me!

But now I know you are a self-admitted wimp and you must enjoy being bullied since you aren't man enough to put up a fight and defend yourself! Seems you're just a punk that is cruising for a bruising... 

[Richy_T]

[snip]

I know what the words mean which is why I highlighted them. "Proprietary" means "we invented it ourselves" and "mirrors the principles" means "does not directly implement". Neither of these absolutely means insecure, of course but should raise eyebrows. This is pre-supposing, of course, that you trust Fidelity as an institution and that the government won't one day be knocking at their door.

I had hoped that my insinuations were fairly clear but I suppose this is 2025.

[cAPSLOCK]

FTFY (re 2013)

Yes, of course. I don't know why my head meat glitched like that, but it did.

two merits for the correction.

[BTCETFInvestor]

@BitHodlers - Do you understand that OOM and JJG are licking their chops, looking forward to jumping your ass?

Yep.

"We" are licking our chops.

Any minute that BitHodlers "screws up," "we" are going to pounce on his ass.



He better watch out.