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You are trying to claim that you are not spamming this thread with both inferior products but also frequently stating that they are better than actual BTC?  That does not sound like a person (or bot) who wants to engage in conversations about BTC.

JJG - You continue to lie, claiming falsely that I have said that Bitcoin derivatives (e.g. ETFs) are better than actual BTC. That is simply not true, and if you were honest about it you wouldn't keep repeating that lie! I have never stated that Bitcoin ETFs are better than actual BTC. In fact, I have stated just the opposite - that I believe direct ownership of BTC is preferred, but that I personally don't want to deal with self-custody and private keys, phrase words, etc. Please be a stand-up guy and refrain from further claiming this untruth you continue spreading...

I stand by my earlier posts and your ongoing posting about such spot BTC ETF crap as you have been continuing to do for several months also supports that you are either pumping such inferior products and/or purposefully juxtaposing such inferior products with bitcoin to create and impression that the inferior products are not inferior to dee cornz. 

At some point, I thought that you had created a thread for such ETF crap, but apparently you want a larger audience, so you bring your bullshit affinity scam to this thread... and you are stubborn about it and you also post a bunch of AI generated baloney, to the extent that you are not totally an AI.. which many guys already have concluded such and might even be more annoyed with you than I am.

I doubt that you are going to get me to be nicer to you or any folks that you want me to be nicer to within whatever might be your objective.
...No, I don't aim to see you kinder, or nicer, but a more objective way to make people really want to understand about bitcoin, just as you are approaching the 'Seasonal investor' in a different way

Half the time you post stream of conscious retarded shit, while at the same time, you are wanting to suggest ways that I could improve my content in order to help bitcoiners in a better way. How do you have any clue about me?  I may well be posting as good as I can, and what obligations do I have anyhow?  You are back to your nonsense assertion suggesting that I have some kind of an obligation in regards to my posts... which is merely a fantasy on your end.

, yes, could one of my goals were achieved,, I'm really admiring the way you're now  treating the investor of securities guaranteed by the controlling power,  instead the way that you treatened him before.

You happen to be a fan in some aspect... .. yet seems like a BIG SO WHAT.

I see it as coherence, and really telling him about self-custody, it's one of the things I really admire in you., if I had a goal, this was one of the achieved,. .  Because the way you were treating him arrogantly, you could only make him treat you as he was treating you, and moving him further and further away from trying to understand bitcoin and self-custody, was it only me who realized that?

Yes.  It is ONLY you that realized that since the BTCETFInvestor twat is likely not interested in self-custody... even though the post might be useful to someone else considering bitcoin to be more than just looking into Bitcoin spot ETF ownership.

I hope not.  I have had enough down for this local round.. but yeah, I know, dee cornz does not care about whatever my personal preferences might be.
It's not necessarily a downrumble.

I think if you say something is imminent to happen, then there is no way to really have confidence in the direction.  Even insiders get it wrong... not suggesting any of us to be insiders.. even though you never know that trolls might sometimes slip their posts into our forum threads.
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@ESG - I actually did buy $50 USD of BTC in a Wallet of Satoshi and decided this way of investing was not for me.

I just don't see any need to do that. I can't see what advantage it would be for me to do that. I'm satisfied with the method I have chosen...

Yes, I don't know how old you are, but keep reading, one day you will understand about recessions and confiscations. Inflation and modern slavery.
- bitcoin is not an investiment, is necessity!
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@ESG - I actually did buy $50 USD of BTC in a Wallet of Satoshi and decided this way of investing was not for me.

I just don't see any need to do that. I can't see what advantage it would be for me to do that. I'm satisfied with the method I have chosen...

Yes, I don't know how old you are, but keep reading, one day you will understand about recessions and confiscations. Inflation and modern slavery.
- bitcoin is not an investiment, is necessity!

I don't know how old you are or what country you call home, referring to confiscations and slavery - but I can assure you I understand recession and inflation.

How old do you think I am?  
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Yes, I don't know how old you are, but keep reading, one day you will understand about recessions and confiscations. Inflation and modern slavery.
- bitcoin is not an investiment, is necessity!

I don't know how old you are and what country you call home, referring to confiscations and slavery. I can assure you I understand recession and inflation.

How old do you think I am? 

 Our age and the country where we live, is not the important thing, the important thing is to know that the world we live in is a reality imposed by the general controlling power.
  You can start backwards and start to understand what 'modern slavery' would be, I'm going to do a copy and paste here, but it's not because it's copy and paste that doesn't matter, if you like to understand the world we live in, you can start here, the most recent event, and maybe, a little light will turn on inside your head, And maybe you can start to understand why bitcoin is a necessity, in addition to investment, as is being proposed by the media in general.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NY3h-0c5Sg

please a moment of silence for all eurofags and britbongs who have lost the privacy wars

a good video from Sam Bent

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The EU is Destroying Privacy

The EU just approved a negotiating mandate for Chat Control - mass scanning of encrypted communications. Articles 1 and 7 explicitly exempt police, military, intelligence, and EU officials from the scanning. Your messages get monitored. Theirs stay private.

Sixty percent of child abuse material worldwide is hosted on EU servers. The Netherlands hosts 41% alone. Germany saw hosting increase 150% in one year. German police leave known illegal content online for years claiming they lack resources. They can't take down content on their own servers but they have resources to scan billions of messages daily.

Parliament voted 483-92 for mandatory digital ID. The age verification system requires re-identification every 90 days using single-use tokens. Italy and France made Google Play Integrity mandatory, excluding everyone on GrapheneOS or degoogled phones. The same EU that passed the Digital Markets Act against Google now mandates Google dependency.

Germany convicted a politician for posting official crime statistics. 50 coordinated police raids targeted people for online speech. France is prosecuting VPN and ProtonMail usage as evidence of criminal intent. An EU expert group named VPNs as "key challenges." Spain wants to ban encryption entirely.

The UK arrests 30+ people per day for online speech. Now they're removing jury trials for 90% of eligible defendants.

☆-----☆-----☆-----☆-----☆   CHAPTERS   ☆-----☆-----☆-----☆-----☆

00:00 Intro
00:31 Woman Jailed For Insulting Them
01:04 Chat Control Explained
01:33 "Voluntary" Is A Lie
02:02 How You Know It's Not About Kids
02:45 They Can't Remove Known CSAM
03:33 1984 Was A Warning
04:31 We Are The Proles
05:02 They Exempt Themselves
06:02 Courts Already Ruled It Illegal
06:51 This Is Coordinated
07:18 GDPR Getting Gutted
08:00 Crypto Privacy Ban
08:48 Digital ID Wallet
09:34 Chinese Social Credit Vibes
10:27 Quarterly ID Verification Forever
10:45 Google Dependency Mandatory
11:29 DeGoogled Phones Excluded
11:53 Anonymity Being Eliminated
12:42 Stats Are Now Hate Speech
13:13 50 Raids For Memes
13:52 30 Arrests Per Day For Posts
14:25 UK Killing Jury Trials
15:05 Juries vs Rubber Stamps
15:22 Bolsheviks Did This Too
15:47 Encryption As Evidence Of Guilt
16:17 Same Thing In The US
17:13 VPNs Named As Challenges
17:27 The Progression
18:29 Infrastructure Doesn't Care Who Runs It
18:55 What They Tell You vs Reality
19:19 You Can't Petition Your Way Out
19:55 What To Actually Do
20:49 GrapheneOS
21:05 Technical Resistance
21:54 Before They Blacklist The Tools

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 I Hope you Sir want understand, and if u want understand, you will keep searching by yourself about others points that i tell like confiscation on the past, inflation monetary... and things like this, that turn btc as necessity.
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Yes, I don't know how old you are, but keep reading, one day you will understand about recessions and confiscations. Inflation and modern slavery.
- bitcoin is not an investiment, is necessity!

I don't know how old you are and what country you call home, referring to confiscations and slavery. I can assure you I understand recession and inflation.

How old do you think I am?  

 
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Our age and the country where we live, is not the important thing, the important thing is to know that the world we live in is a reality imposed by the general controlling power.
  You can start backwards and start to understand what 'modern slavery' would be, I'm going to do a copy and paste here, but it's not because it's copy and paste that doesn't matter, if you like to understand the world we live in, you can start here, the most recent event, and maybe, a little light will turn on inside your head, And maybe you can start to understand why bitcoin is a necessity, in addition to investment, as is being proposed by the media in general.
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I Hope you Sir want understand, and if u want understand, you will keep searching by yourself about others points that i tell like confiscation on the past, inflation monetary... and things like this, that turn btc as necessity.

Sorry you are dealing with troubling EU matters but I'm an American living in the U.S. so keep that shit over there where you are...

I don't want your schooling about UK matters that don't affect me nor interest me...    
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Should we start naming and shaming FUD spreaders who spook Bitcoin newbies into selling for a loss/potential gains loss?

Will public ridicule stop these people?
Or do they only care about publicity, regardless of how people view them and the damage they inflict on others? (Like Faketoshi)
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Sorry you are dealing with troubling EU matters but I'm an American living in the U.S. so keep that shit over there where you are...    

 Your answer shows who you are, and not the place where you live, the world in which we live, is the same, and in this world there are people who work and are part of the controlator power, and the rest, who are slaves of the controlling power, and the people who work for the controlling power, do not let them be slaves too, but they convince the normal slaves that everything that the controlling power does, it is for their good, and they believe, do not question, and are comfortable in their supposed home sweet homes, and believe they own what they have and they end up living well in their slavery, conformed to the way of life proposed by the controlling power,.

 The water we drink is the most precious commodity that exists on our planet, and if you don't know what water you are drinking from, and what is in that water, their goal of keeping you in total slavery has been achieved. Have you ever stopped to ask what's in the water you drink? And if so, what's in the water you drink? Is it necessary for your biological organism to function properly? And it could be that there are things in the water that prevent you from asking what's in that water? If you don't wonder, it's good to worry about your lack of curiosity.
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Sorry you are dealing with troubling EU matters but I'm an American living in the U.S. so keep that shit over there where you are...    

 Your answer shows who you are, and not the place where you live, the world in which we live, is the same, and in this world there are people who work and are part of the controlator power, and the rest, who are slaves of the controlling power, and the people who work for the controlling power, do not let them be slaves too, but they convince the normal slaves that everything that the controlling power does, it is for their good, and they believe, do not question, and are comfortable in their supposed home sweet homes, and believe they own what they have and they end up living well in their slavery, conformed to the way of life proposed by the controlling power,.

 The water we drink is the most precious commodity that exists on our planet, and if you don't know what water you are drinking from, and what is in that water, their goal of keeping you in total slavery has been achieved. Have you ever stopped to ask what's in the water you drink? And if so, what's in the water you drink? Is it necessary for your biological organism to function properly? And it could be that there are things in the water that prevent you from asking what's in that water? If you don't wonder, it's good to worry about your lack of curiosity.

You've got serious problems that run deep in your mind - I'm thinking you need professional help!  Shocked
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Sorry you are dealing with troubling EU matters but I'm an American living in the U.S. so keep that shit over there where you are...    

 Your answer shows who you are, and not the place where you live, the world in which we live, is the same, and in this world there are people who work and are part of the controlator power, and the rest, who are slaves of the controlling power, and the people who work for the controlling power, do not let them be slaves too, but they convince the normal slaves that everything that the controlling power does, it is for their good, and they believe, do not question, and are comfortable in their supposed home sweet homes, and believe they own what they have and they end up living well in their slavery, conformed to the way of life proposed by the controlling power,.

 The water we drink is the most precious commodity that exists on our planet, and if you don't know what water you are drinking from, and what is in that water, their goal of keeping you in total slavery has been achieved. Have you ever stopped to ask what's in the water you drink? And if so, what's in the water you drink? Is it necessary for your biological organism to function properly? And it could be that there are things in the water that prevent you from asking what's in that water? If  you don't wonder, it's good to worry about your lack of curiosity.

This is very deep. Or trivial .

The nature of my existence means nothing if it is held in check by drugged water and food.

Worse yet the air that I breath is to anesthesize me.

So to break free I must not eat drink or breath.

Of course I could take the orange pill and maybe that will  free my mind from it's prison built by mankind.

Hmm maybe I will pour a shot instead.

I will let you all in on the secret of aging for a 68 year old man.

Watching Elsbeth on TV while sipping a whiskey thinking about how is it you find her hot. And at the same time thinking about a 24 year blonde Russian woman you know and finding her hot.

Is my taste for women endlessly expanding or maybe it is the whiskey.
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You are trying to claim that you are not spamming this thread with both inferior products but also frequently stating that they are better than actual BTC?  That does not sound like a person (or bot) who wants to engage in conversations about BTC.

JJG - You continue to lie, claiming falsely that I have said that Bitcoin derivatives (e.g. ETFs) are better than actual BTC. That is simply not true, and if you were honest about it you wouldn't keep repeating that lie! I have never stated that Bitcoin ETFs are better than actual BTC. In fact, I have stated just the opposite - that I believe direct ownership of BTC is preferred, but that I personally don't want to deal with self-custody and private keys, phrase words, etc. Please be a stand-up guy and refrain from further claiming this untruth you continue spreading...

I stand by my earlier posts and your ongoing posting about such spot BTC ETF crap as you have been continuing to do for several months also supports that you are either pumping such inferior products and/or purposefully juxtaposing such inferior products with bitcoin to create and impression that the inferior products are not inferior to dee cornz.  

At some point, I thought that you had created a thread for such ETF crap, but apparently you want a larger audience, so you bring your bullshit affinity scam to this thread... and you are stubborn about it and you also post a bunch of AI generated baloney, to the extent that you are not totally an AI.. which many guys already have concluded such and might even be more annoyed with you than I am.

JJG - All you want to do is make posts with wordy messages and argue with people and stir up shit - and if that means you lie about something or claim something that didn't happen, you absolutely don't care because that's the MO of a thug bully. You should be ashamed of yourself but it's clear you don't have the moral fortitude to be a good person...  
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Sorry you are dealing with troubling EU matters but I'm an American living in the U.S. so keep that shit over there where you are...    

 Your answer shows who you are, and not the place where you live, the world in which we live, is the same, and in this world there are people who work and are part of the controlator power, and the rest, who are slaves of the controlling power, and the people who work for the controlling power, do not let them be slaves too, but they convince the normal slaves that everything that the controlling power does, it is for their good, and they believe, do not question, and are comfortable in their supposed home sweet homes, and believe they own what they have and they end up living well in their slavery, conformed to the way of life proposed by the controlling power,.

 The water we drink is the most precious commodity that exists on our planet, and if you don't know what water you are drinking from, and what is in that water, their goal of keeping you in total slavery has been achieved. Have you ever stopped to ask what's in the water you drink? And if so, what's in the water you drink? Is it necessary for your biological organism to function properly? And it could be that there are things in the water that prevent you from asking what's in that water? If  you don't wonder, it's good to worry about your lack of curiosity.

This is very deep. Or trivial .

The nature of my existence means nothing if it is held in check by drugged water and food.

Worse yet the air that I breath is to anesthesize me.

So to break free I must not eat drink or breath.

Of course I could take the orange pill and maybe that will  free my mind from it's prison built by mankind.

Hmm maybe I will pour a shot instead.

I will let you all in on the secret of aging for a 68 year old man.

Watching Elsbeth on TV while sipping a whiskey thinking about how is it you find her hot. And at the same time thinking about a 24 year blonde Russian woman you know and finding her hot.

Is my taste for women endlessly expanding or maybe it is the whiskey.

The hell with Elsbeth - tell me about this Russian blonde you lust over!
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I feel like something big is rumbling off in the distance.

 Well I'm not surprised; I made vegan chili last night (for reasons) with 4 kinds of beans and I also used Gardein Suprême Frozen Ground Be'f Crumbles which is mostly pea protein. That's most likely the cause of what you're feeling.
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This is very deep. Or trivial .

The nature of my existence means nothing if it is held in check by drugged water and food.

Worse yet the air that I breath is to anesthesize me.

So to break free I must not eat drink or breath.

Of course I could take the orange pill and maybe that will  free my mind from it's prison built by mankind.

Hmm maybe I will pour a shot instead.

I will let you all in on the secret of aging for a 68 year old man.

Watching Elsbeth on TV while sipping a whiskey thinking about how is it you find her hot. And at the same time thinking about a 24 year blonde Russian woman you know and finding her hot.

Is my taste for women endlessly expanding or maybe it is the whiskey.

hmmm tastly good, nothing better than a firm skin with a sweet smell from a warm and pleasant temperature....
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The address is not accessible for withdrawal  just for deposit.

I picked it because  I remember reading that sending coins to it act as a burn of the coins. If not genesis address hold the rewards

AI agrees with me. Take it for what you will. It has the balance wrong.

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The address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa is not considered a proof-of-burn address.
 It is the address used for the genesis block reward in Bitcoin, and the initial 50 BTC transaction from block 0 is unspendable because that transaction is not included in the blockchain database, not because the private key does not exist.
 Although the address has a balance of 65.53887252 BTC and has received funds over time, the fact that the original 50 BTC are unspendable is due to the transaction's absence from the database, not because the private key is inaccessible.
 The address should not be listed as a burn address because the remaining approximately 13 BTC are spendable.
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Spain wants to ban encryption entirely.

Interesting...

I think they have a brilliant idea for post quantum cryptography (poc)

How is it possible to hack a wallet without encryption or pv key.

Brilliant
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