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As much as I welcome AI for its benefits in data analysis and information processing, I absolutely HATE how it's being abused by people who copy/paste AI-generated content and presenting it as their own, without even checking its validity. Not talking so much about trolls -- WO has always been a troll magnet and I'm sure all WOers here can easily spot them and their use of AI. The real issue is that many people have now started using AI instead of their own brains for everything, from reports and dissertations, to publishing papers in journals, even to writing code and using it without thoroughly testing it!

Fuck this shit. Soon, all we will have left to sort out what's human and what's not, will be our intuition. Anything textual/audio/visual will soon be up for debate on its true origins.

And, surely any of us who might have had previously been human might start to rely upon or even overly rely upon AI without necessarily disclosing our reliance.. especially since the more we get used to using AI, we may well realize that we might be able to present some of our ideas better through the use of AI.. and yeah, we might sometimes not really understand the contents that we are posting.  It is difficult to figure out how to deal with some aspects of this trend, since it seems that there are several of us who don't mind some of the contents of AI or some of the abilities to amalgamate various kinds of information in order to better inform us about certain topics, yet many of us prefer to be interacting with humans and even having some human analysis within the contents.

There are a decent number of forum members who already engage in some variation of merely posting articles or snippets from what someone else said, and even if the content might be interesting, they seem to have no willingness or perhaps ability to spend a few minutes just to write a sentence or two about the contents (do they agree or not or what impact does this information have upon the field of thought that is being substantively addressed).

Individuals will tend to have unique ways of writing, yet as you suggested, the AI could train on some person's past writing and then one of the input prompts might be "what would AlcoHoDL say about this topic?" and so AI is getting better and better at mimicking a style, especially if there is a good amount of outstanding prior content (such as forum posts) that the AI could train upon in order to try to make a response that might appear to be what AlcoHoDL might say or how he might say it.

There have been some guys who had already posted AI generated JJG posts, and frequently there ended up being quite glaring errors, which as you suggest AI should be getting better at doing, and maybe a person going through and correcting the glaring errors would end up mostly getting away with the imitation of an actual person through a mostly fakety generated means.

Soon, all we will have left to sort out what's human and what's not, will be our intuition. Anything textual/audio/visual will soon be up for debate on its true origins.
its basically at the point where i only pay attention to accounts ive "known" since before the AI slop invasion. all new accounts that "find" their way here now get very little leeway before the ignore button does its thing.

HEY @THEYMOS:
bring back the glowing ignore button... it was awesome.

I suppose that you are still loosely screening for if you recognize some pieces of information (evidence) that the old account (that you come to feel that you know) is changing in its style or some kind of a way that might trigger you to thinking that the account is starting to overly use AI?    And then, how much use of AI is "too much", and how much use of AI is "acceptable" within your standards and to the extent that you can identify certain red flags?

By the way, I am not really clear about the difference between the current ignore link versus a "glowing ignore button" - except maybe it makes you feel better to press it when it glows? #askingforafriend

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No local dealers pay way under spot.
Selling at under melt is not a goal but I don't mind selling the quarters roll by roll. Seeing how they sell.

I HAVE a lot and want BTC instead

Yeah, but what if Armageddon comes?  You are not going to be sufficiently prepared.  Right?

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I have no intention of proof-checking such articles for accuracy - any more than you would proof-check a Wall Street Journal or Bloomberg Finance article for accuracy! Crappy sources or not, the articles are out there! I hope that is understood. Fair enough?  

No.  Not fair enough. You are posting crappy information and diluting the quality of the forum and this thread.

In udder wurds, you and your purposefully sloppy-ass shitposts are a pox upon this house.

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Do you read articles before posting links? I ask because you continue to post crappy sources that don't even have a clue about the basics in their articles.
no the bot even admits it just copies and pastes links. as the bot feels its so busy it cant be bothered to verify anything lol

we need a super-ignore button. an ignore button soooo powerful its zaps quotes from ignored users too.

Such "super-ignore button" could also red tag accounts of such repetitively low quality after a certain number of zaps have been sent out (number of threshold zaps set by the member).. just for funzies.
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HEY @THEYMOS:
bring back the glowing ignore button... it was awesome.

By the way, I am not really clear about the difference between the current ignore link versus a "glowing ignore button" - except maybe it makes you feel better to press it when it glows? #askingforafriend

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I have no intention of proof-checking such articles for accuracy - any more than you would proof-check a Wall Street Journal or Bloomberg Finance article for accuracy! Crappy sources or not, the articles are out there! I hope that is understood. Fair enough?  

No.  Not fair enough. You are posting crappy information and diluting the quality of the forum and this thread.

In udder wurds, you and your purposefully sloppy-ass shitposts are a pox upon this house.


JJG - As if there aren't literally thousands of off-topic posts in this thread.  

So, you think I purposefully post what you call 'shitposts'; No, dumbass - I actually posted the bitcoin related news from the Coingecko website to be helpful.

What a stupid idiotic fool you are...  It's clear that you will always be a scumbag asshole!  Fuck you!

 

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Again pump to than dump O’clock?

Annoying to be correct

Market suffer from major manipulation.

Coinbase/Bitstamp/Blackrock/Wintermute/Binance/Martrixport are all buying and selling at the same time like they are in the same Whatsapp group to decide when.

Probaly to stomp those leverage retards until they are exhausted only then they will start the real pump.
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Again pump to than dump O’clock?

Annoying to be correct

Market suffer from major manipulation.

Coinbase/Bitstamp/Blackrock/Wintermute/Binance/Martrixport are all buying and selling at the same time like they are in the same Whatsapp group to decide when.

Probaly to stomp those leverage retards until they are exhausted only then they will start the real pump.

At least they are liquidating longs and shorts. That tells me that we are nearing fair value. Perhaps this bear market won’t last into 2027 like previous cycles would have you believe.
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-JJGee, I also want one🚩, how do I get it? Cheesy
Do I have to try harder?

..or if I continue the way I am, soon I will succeed?
, I am asking only out of doubt... lol..........#

You are referring to a red tag.

For sure, you have a lot of gobble-dee-gook in your posts, and after quickly looking at your profile, I see that you have not been red tagged yet.. which seems to be a good thing, even though you seem to want attention.

For sure it is discretionary for any member to red tag another member.

From my superficial assessment of your situation, you seem to want 1) credibility, 2) to be listened to by other forum members and 3) even to receive informative and helpful responses to your frequently lame-ass posts from other forum members from time to time, so if I am reading you more or less correctly, you would most-likely not want to have a red tag from me.. so in that regard, stop trying your seemingly lame-ass version of reverse psychology on me.   Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue

Maybe you can become so lucky (or unlucky) that some other forum member can see your ongoing gobble-dee-gook talking out of both sides of your mouth and grant the wish that you have proclaimed to want yet in reality seem to have had not wanted to have fulfilled?

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What are the two sweetest words for a small business owner in US this year?
Phil, among others, should know   Grin

I cannot read minds, and I know my guess is lame, especially since I don't want to get sucked into some bullshit political slogan (which is one of the first things that I think about when I think about two words. which is something being sold).. but here goes:

"Free money"

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....... I want to see Bitcoin increase in price! That's all I am interested in and care about...  

Several times, you have stated that you don't have any bitcoin, so you are misleading if you are proclaiming that you want bitcoin to increase in price.

Accordingly, you don't seem to know what bitcoin is, even though you are posting in a thread in which an overwhelming majority of the regular posters in these here parts proclaim that they are bitcoin advocates.  Sure there are some straglers who don't necessarily proclaim to be bitcoin advocates.

I am sure there are several guys here who do not actually hold their own bitcoin keys and they keep most if not all of them on exchanges, yet most of them are not going to argue that keeping bitcoin on exchanges is good for bitcoin, as you seem to love to obfuscate and even argue that bitcoin spot ETFs are good for bitcoin.. which again reinforces that you don't really seem to know or understand bitcoin, so in that regards, many times you are posting pieces of information that are not necessarily good for bitcoin. whether referring to BTC price moves or otherwise.

It is likely that there are other guys participating in this thread who give no shits about bitcoin beyond short-term number go up kinds of concepts, yet it would seem that any interest in bitcoin's ability to hold its price appreciation into longer time frames, then aspects of bitcoin self-sovereignty properties need to be considered beyond the mere number go up angle of bitcoin.  Another thing that you have several times attempted to push down our throats are proclamations that guys here are only concerned about bitcoin's short term number go up (or that is all that guys here should be concerned about), and surely as a newbie you remain ongoingly imposing with you lame bullshit and superficial pumping of what others have characterized as a kind of lame status quo financial institutional agenda...like you are here to just lamely and blindly protect status quo financial institutions.. so in essense you really don't like bitcoin, even though you are claiming that you want its number to go up.

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Just from a cursory glance its simple to see there's something wrong with this account.
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I think this guy needs to be nuked from orbit.

Fair enough.  I did not look into the account in any kind of detail.
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The inflation numbers came in, much better than expected! Estimate 3.3, but were 2.9%. This was not expected I think, it sounds good.

If it continues like this I see at least 1 more rate cut before Powell is gone and many more later.
Is nobody interested in this??? I find it strange also if the market does not respond positively in the coming days. It seems extremely manipulated because both bad and good news either produce no reaction or more sell pressure.
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Roach must be so rich now. Just imagine if he'd swapped all that physical silver for coin back in 2015 instead. Smart guy
mo dolla bank money Jan 29

Low volume for the rest of the year opens the door for cheap whale splashes

For sure, the thrust of what you are saying (swapping into bitcoin sooner rather than later would have had been the better of moves).

Accordingly, the further you go back, the less likely that any asset or commodity or stock would have had outperformed bitcoin... Sure, from time to time, there may have had been exceptions, yet surely if we go back to 2015, bitcoin would have had been way better to invest in than either gold or silver, even if those two shiny rocks are experiencing some temporary bumps.

Another thing is that we cannot go back in history, so we have to decide what we are going to do right now with what we got, including that if we own gold, silver, bitcoin and/or any other assets, currencies or investments.

What are we going to do right now?  Do we reallocate anything? Or do we keep our current allocations?

Another thing is that if we are going to buy more, do we change the way that we had been historically buying or do we just keep our same prior established systems?

There surely are some guys who have mostly already bought their various positions, so then they are faced with questions or either re-allocation or alternatively which assets to sell first, even if they don't necessarily reallocate into other assets.

If we are already somewhat happy with our prior investments, yet maybe we are at a stage in our lives that we are3 mostly liquidating or maybe our varoius income levels are fixed to such a degree that they are not keeping up with the ongoing debasement of the dollar and the rising price levels.. so in that sense, we might be drawing from other sources.  

In mid- 2022, I started drawing from a somewhat diversified set of stock index funds at right around 4% per year, and previously I had been thinking that I was going to let them ride. .maybe another several years until around 2030 - yet times had ended up changing, and I stared to think that I would be better off to draw upon those funds that are mostly related to dollar debasement rather than other areas (and yeah maybe I should have had started in 2020 or 2021, but the facts are the facts and I don't mind the supplemental income that I have been getting from those funds since mid-2022 - about 3.5 years, so far).  They have not really depleted in their dollar value, even though I have been drawing from them at about 4% per year (or 0.33% per month, or 1% per quarter).

they play btc shorts and want to get a dump under 80 they bet on say 79.5k
I remember there is a bet in place here between JJG and LFC_Bitcoin.

Between who is winning now as price is below 90k?

There are still 3.5 months for the bet to play out, and yeah, sure at the moment, LFC seems to have a bit of a trend (momentum) working to his favor, yet it may be premature to count my side of the bet as being out..

...and probably the more important question for folks concerns how to manage their own holdings... and so many guys want to be able to sell some of their corn, even though they are not even close to overaccumulation status... but, yep, I know there are various opinions regarding how aggressive any guys should be within their bitcoin accumulation practices, and I am surely much of an advocate for changing levels of BTC accumulation aggressiveness based on BTC price movements.. .. yet I think sometimes normies make the error of lowering their BTC accumulation aggressiveness based on their speculation that the BTC price may go down further, which surely may or may not end up happening.

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bring back the glowing ignore button... it was awesome.
By the way, I am not really clear about the difference between the current ignore link versus a "glowing ignore button" - except maybe it makes you feel better to press it when it glows? #askingforafriend
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Whoaza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A whole thread on the topic.

I have no intention of proof-checking such articles for accuracy - any more than you would proof-check a Wall Street Journal or Bloomberg Finance article for accuracy! Crappy sources or not, the articles are out there! I hope that is understood. Fair enough?
No.  Not fair enough. You are posting crappy information and diluting the quality of the forum and this thread.

In udder wurds, you and your purposefully sloppy-ass shitposts are a pox upon this house.
JJG - As if there aren't literally thousands of off-topic posts in this thread.  
So, you think I purposefully post what you call 'shitposts'; No, dumbass - I actually posted the bitcoin related news from the Coingecko website to be helpful.

What a stupid idiotic fool you are...  It's clear that you will always be a scumbag asshole!  Fuck you!

You are exactly showing that you have no fucking clue.

You are right that pretty much anything goes in this thread, but if you are pumping shitcoins, then guys (including yours truly) are going to be hostile to you .. so stop trying to act as if you are fully in compliance with the culture of this thread's when at best you are a "Johnny come lately" who is new to bitcoin and wants to show us how to fix it.

Several guys have already attempted to help you several times, yet you remain a stubborn fuck which shows your ongoing bad intentions.

At least they are liquidating longs and shorts. That tells me that we are nearing fair value. Perhaps this bear market won’t last into 2027 like previous cycles would have you believe.

There is not enough evidence yet to establish that we have gone into a bear market, even  though there continues to be evidence of strong ongoing manipulation which likely shows a bit of desperation to try to make it seem that we have gone into a bear market, even though we haven't.

Of course, I am NOT 100% sure that we won't go into a bear market, even though it seems to me that the evidence is not strong enough to conclude that we already are in a bear market (rather than merely a correction within a still ongoing bull market).  

..... I find it strange also if the market does not respond positively in the coming days. It seems extremely manipulated because both bad and good news either produce no reaction or more sell pressure.

I have come to the conclusion that the bitcoin market (prices) are "extremely manipulated."

What else is new?  Where is Torque when we need him?



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Bitcoin does not seem to be optional, even if several governments have historically been treating bitcoin as optional.
I'm curious about this. From my understanding they already have control
Bitcoin shows a system with a head but the government is a system with a central body. I'm still quite in the dark what the government itself would need Bitcoin for.
I picked need and not want for a reason.
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As much as I welcome AI for its benefits in data analysis and information processing, I absolutely HATE how it's being abused by people who copy/paste AI-generated content and presenting it as their own, without even checking its validity. Not talking so much about trolls -- WO has always been a troll magnet and I'm sure all WOers here can easily spot them and their use of AI. The real issue is that many people have now started using AI instead of their own brains for everything, from reports and dissertations, to publishing papers in journals, even to writing code and using it without thoroughly testing it!

Fuck this shit. Soon, all we will have left to sort out what's human and what's not, will be our intuition. Anything textual/audio/visual will soon be up for debate on its true origins.

Seconded.
And guess what's happening?
Not are people relying on AI to do the thinking, research and summarizing for them ending up with less brain mass, but also lowered IQ.
Mankind is too dumb for AI and AI makes it become even dumber.

It's the same with other technology which is used by the public regularly. We carry Supercomputers (in millennial scales) with the size of a small chocolate bar in our pockets and we (most of us) use them for entertainment, out of pure boredom, which wrecks our dopamine, so we become even more bored, instead of educating ourselves for improving our lives.

Forget intuition. Intuition is now useless. The (social) media already tells us what is right and what is wrong.



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Bitcoin does not seem to be optional, even if several governments have historically been treating bitcoin as optional.
I'm curious about this. From my understanding they already have control
Bitcoin shows a system with a head but the government is a system with a central body. I'm still quite in the dark what the government itself would need Bitcoin for.
I picked need and not want for a reason.

I would think that anyone who has any kind of clue about what bitcoin is, would see that governments cannot opt out of bitcoin.

You have been on the forum for nearly 2.5 years, and you seem to not understand basic disruptive premises of bitcoin?

Bitcoin is a paradigm changing technology in which value is able to be attached to digital information in a way that cannot be duplicated.  When I say that it is paradigm shifting it means that such abilities (technology) had not previously existed, and perhaps I am also referring to such a change as being quite disruptive and likely to be impactful in all kinds of areas and/or industries.

I don't see how governments would be able to operate while completely ignoring bitcoin, its growth and its spread, and just letting a separate system of value and information (referring to bitcoin) persist without their involvement would seem like dereliction of duties - whether they end up engaging in overreach or not, they are going to perceive themselves as having an interest in bitcoin.. and government is not monolith, either. 

We do not have one world-wide government, even though some governments and some people might want to impose world wide-values and world-wide jurisdiction to assert dominance over people in other locations around the world (meddling/overreach? perhaps?).. and I am not even proclaiming to know how all of the factors and dynamics and impact come together, even though bitcoin disrupts several of the prior existing social, political, economic and game-theory systems related to value, information and a variety of other areas.

I already mentioned in my earlier post in your now closed thread what I perceived as ambiguity and perhaps even misapplication of the use of the term "need" - even though you are implying yourself to have some kind of superior (or deeper) insight in regards to the fittingness of the term "need."  If you are still considering "need" to have had been a sufficient term, it seems that you are trying to pigeonhole bitcoin into some category that it does not fit, which continues to show that you don't seem to have hardly any idea regarding what bitcoin is..

But, hey, whatever.  Go on with your seemingly lame framework that tries to frame bitcoin as if it were optional for governments or for anyone else.  Yes.. ignore bitcoin at your peril.. whether you are a government, institution or a person... and yeah persons might have more options to hide themselves away, yet governments and institutions have public good components embedded in their raison d'être.

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Seconded.
And guess what's happening?
Not are people relying on AI to do the thinking, research and summarizing for them ending up with less brain mass, but also lowered IQ.
Mankind is too dumb for AI and AI makes it become even dumber.

Aren't there always going to be ways that individuals differ in their use of technologies? 

It's the same with other technology which is used by the public regularly. We carry Supercomputers (in millennial scales) with the size of a small chocolate bar in our pockets and we (most of us) use them for entertainment, out of pure boredom, which wrecks our dopamine, so we become even more bored, instead of educating ourselves for improving our lives.

Forget intuition. Intuition is now useless. The (social) media already tells us what is right and what is wrong.

I am not sure if I buy the premise about people just getting dumber.  Sure there are changes in society and we don't know how to fix things anymore, since it has become more complicated to repair your own car or your washing machine, yet does it translate towards people becoming dumber.. including so much access to information, yet perhaps having some difficulties with social interaction.. changes in our ways of socially interacting, for sure.
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I don't see how governments would be able to operate while completely ignoring bitcoin, its growth and its spread, and just letting a separate system of value and information (referring to bitcoin) persist without their involvement would seem like dereliction of duties - whether they end up engaging in overreach or not, they are going to perceive themselves as having an interest in bitcoin.. and government is not monolith, either. 
I don't think you getting my question. I'm not talking about if the government can overlook Bitcoin
What I was asking was what would Bitcoin offer the government that they never had access to.
I don't know if it's clearer now.
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I don't see how governments would be able to operate while completely ignoring bitcoin, its growth and its spread, and just letting a separate system of value and information (referring to bitcoin) persist without their involvement would seem like dereliction of duties - whether they end up engaging in overreach or not, they are going to perceive themselves as having an interest in bitcoin.. and government is not monolith, either. 
I don't think you getting my question. I'm not talking about if the government can overlook Bitcoin
What I was asking was what would Bitcoin offer the government that they never had access to.
I don't know if it's clearer now.

It could make money more traceable with a few key laws put into place.
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Last edit: December 19, 2025, 12:29:01 AM by BTCETFInvestor



....... I want to see Bitcoin increase in price! That's all I am interested in and care about...  

Several times, you have stated that you don't have any bitcoin, so you are misleading if you are proclaiming that you want bitcoin to increase in price.

Accordingly, you don't seem to know what bitcoin is, even though you are posting in a thread in which an overwhelming majority of the regular posters in these here parts proclaim that they are bitcoin advocates.  Sure there are some straglers who don't necessarily proclaim to be bitcoin advocates.

I am sure there are several guys here who do not actually hold their own bitcoin keys and they keep most if not all of them on exchanges, yet most of them are not going to argue that keeping bitcoin on exchanges is good for bitcoin, as you seem to love to obfuscate and even argue that bitcoin spot ETFs are good for bitcoin.. which again reinforces that you don't really seem to know or understand bitcoin, so in that regards, many times you are posting pieces of information that are not necessarily good for bitcoin. whether referring to BTC price moves or otherwise.

It is likely that there are other guys participating in this thread who give no shits about bitcoin beyond short-term number go up kinds of concepts, yet it would seem that any interest in bitcoin's ability to hold its price appreciation into longer time frames, then aspects of bitcoin self-sovereignty properties need to be considered beyond the mere number go up angle of bitcoin.  Another thing that you have several times attempted to push down our throats are proclamations that guys here are only concerned about bitcoin's short term number go up (or that is all that guys here should be concerned about), and surely as a newbie you remain ongoingly imposing with you lame bullshit and superficial pumping of what others have characterized as a kind of lame status quo financial institutional agenda...like you are here to just lamely and blindly protect status quo financial institutions.. so in essense you really don't like bitcoin, even though you are claiming that you want its number to go up.


JJG - What a stupid, scumbag, 'know it all' preaching fool you are! I can't imagine anyone caring for someone like you with your mentally ill, shitty character/personality.  Angry

FYI, dumbass - When Bitcoin increases in price so do the spot Bitcoin ETFs which tracks Bitcoin closely. You are stupid for not knowing that!

Of course I want Bitcoin to increase in price! I own enough spot Bitcoin ETF to track over 5 BTC, closing in on $500k worth. That means the fund's custodian holds those 5+ Bitcoins in reserve, effectively removing those coins from active circulation. Perfect!  Smiley You should be pleased about that - if you aren't pleased about it then you don't understand spot Bitcoin ETFs or Bitcoin... But, you'll dream up some bullshit that you think will makes sense to convince some of your dense followers.   

Spot Bitcoin ETFs like BlackRock’s IBIT, Fidelity’s FBTC, and Grayscale’s GBTC closely mirror Bitcoin’s price movements. These ETFs don’t trade at Bitcoin’s full price. Instead, each share represents a fraction of Bitcoin holdings. Their performance is normalized to Bitcoin’s movements, so when Bitcoin increases or drops ~%, ETFs typically show a similar percentage increase or decline. Perfect!  Smiley

Here is something else you don't comprehend (because you're stupid), when investors buy shares of a spot Bitcoin ETF, the fund’s custodian acquires actual Bitcoin and holds it in reserve, effectively removing those coins from active circulation. Similar to corporate treasuries or long-term holders, ETF reserves reduce the “float” of Bitcoin that can be actively bought or sold. Perfect! Smiley

You're just showing others here how fucking stupid you are with your 'know-it-all' attitude and the incorrect statements you make along with the lies you tell by twisting what has been said. Yep, you're a stupid, thug bully scumbag asshole.  Go fuck yourself!


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