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[d_eddie]

Is everybody having fun?

Testicular surgeons are having even more fun with all the reconstructions.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[Gachapin]

Is everybody having fun?

Testicular surgeons are having even more fun with all the reconstructions.

#steelballs

[Gachapin]

new poll with same question but different choices is needed!

[Hueristic]

Is everybody having fun?

Yeah it's a hoot.

happy happy happy

[Gachapin]

even Klingons are happy (&gay)

[hostm]

During the previous Bitcoin cycle (2022-2025), a not-so-good trend emerged. Funds and corporations began taking Bitcoin away from private investors.



That is, from us. Will we be able to reverse this, or will things get even worse for us? They'll take our Bitcoin.

[Gachapin]

does "individuals" here also include individuals who buy the ETF ?

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[xhomerx10]

The captcha thing is becoming ridiculous to log in.  


All this knee jerk reaction to the SAAS and IT companies stock dumping,
 in the wake of Anthropic announcements, that is taking the BTC price down with it seems completely insane to me.

So what if an AI software tool can (help to) build things quickly?
Why not use the AI software tools to build a better AI? Thus if you want to believe the imbecile BTC naysayers, the
value in OpenAI and Anthropic would therefore ALSO be zero!

The value in IBM, Salesforce etc was never merely in their software alone.
It has ALWAYS been possible to copy exactly what they do.
That was NEVER the issue.
Any imbecile could always have picked up a C, C++, Java or Cobol book and copied everything. Many tried and they all failed.
No one ever made it work to the point that any buyer cared enough about it surely is it exactly the point in where the actual
value lies.
Whether an AI makes it or an imbecile, what's the difference?

BTC faced the one million crypto copy cat distractions which all promised to be better. Even if some were /are, no one cared (enough).

We will probably only go up once the Wall Street fools stop with this Anthropic BS hype.
Scam Altman, Wario Armadillo need to fuck right off with their BS.

Surely it is therefore a question of when and not if we go up again.

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Bookmark it and avoid the captcha bullshit. 

[OgNasty]

Is everybody having fun?

I think the answer to this question depends on whether you sold the four year cycle high or not…

Some people in this thread made generational wealth and some people watched half their savings disappear. The weird thing is the hate being directed towards the people who were right by the people who were wrong.

[goldkingcoiner]

Is everybody having fun?

I think the answer to this question depends on whether you sold the four year cycle high or not…

Some people in this thread made generational wealth and some people watched half their savings disappear. The weird thing is the hate being directed towards the people who were right by the people who were wrong.

And people who understand that Bitcoin will go even higher in the future have lost nothing.

1 BTC = 1 BTC

[philipma1957]

Is everybody having fun?

I think the answer to this question depends on whether you sold the four year cycle high or not…

Some people in this thread made generational wealth and some people watched half their savings disappear. The weird thing is the hate being directed towards the people who were right by the people who were wrong.

Og I hate you so.

Sarcasm .

So 1.5btc at 126k = 189k

And 1.5btc at 62k= 93k


Now on the upside.

  7k silver sold at 28k

2.5k copper sold for 12.5k

With sales expense I cleared around 27k

STILL mining.

Have quite a few safe investments. House and bonds are well over a million.

Can sink a lot into Btc if I choose to.

Can post here on bitcointalk.org and the wo
Can post on altcoinstalk.

Earn decent coins on those two sites.

So I may end up with profits but not riches.

Those that did well got in low ie.

After the 2013 1300 to 200 crash buying 20 to 50 coins was a doable move.

Hodl till 100k and dump a lot of the coins.

Even if you sold it all and 50 coins are 5 million  you did better than me.



Still quite a ride.

I did buy cheap today at 62k

[Paashaas]

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[OgNasty]

Is everybody having fun?

I think the answer to this question depends on whether you sold the four year cycle high or not…

Some people in this thread made generational wealth and some people watched half their savings disappear. The weird thing is the hate being directed towards the people who were right by the people who were wrong.

Og I hate you so.

Sarcasm .

Only for a few more months and then I’m back on team up only for the following 2.5 years.

I’m torn because I want to invest in SpaceX and that IPO will happen right before Bitcoin bottoms for this cycle. Real estate will probably follow shortly after and I wouldn’t mind a better view either. So many great buying opportunities coming, but only so much dry powder. Patience will be key. No reason to rush to buy here. Especially with the current situation in the Middle East.

[Gachapin]

Is everybody having fun?

I think the answer to this question depends on whether you sold the four year cycle high or not…

Some people in this thread made generational wealth and some people watched half their savings disappear. The weird thing is the hate being directed towards the people who were right by the people who were wrong.

I stopped counting the times I watched my BTC worth getting decimated by more than 50%.

But I also know that I'm a shit trader, so I'm fine with sitting it out. And the upside I had is more than any investor can dream of.


Could I have more... sure. But with trying to sell tops and buying bottoms also comes risk, at least in my case.

people say, do this, or trade that, and they might be right. But I don't want to risk fucking it up just because I listened to someone on the internet. Also I don't want be (more) successful because I just listened to somebody on the internet. It goes both ways.

I don't feel any hate towards people who think that they are always right with reality proving them correct, even though so far that is.


However I understand that people dislike "I told you so"-personalities. Personally I think people who made correct predictions earned the right to say "I told you so". But I'm careful not overusing that right, because it will be seen as a personality defect, namely the lack of humbleness. It can be easily misunderstood as bragging. I think that's the main cause for the hate you see

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[cAPSLOCK]

We're in one of those weird moments where the world is changing structurally in a way rarely seen, but most people have no idea and are just going to work.

This has happened other times.  Covid was the last time, but it was also a completely opposite event structurally than what we are going through now.

The interesting thing about now is we're going through a technological reordering.  Nothing can stop it because it's natural, sort of like a cold front and a warm front meeting each other in the atmosphere.  Heat is going to move very quickly from the one towards the other.  That motion is going to create storms.  And if it's powerful enough, it will feed on itself and create something like a tornado or even a hurricane.

I had a conversation seven or eight years ago I will remember for a long time with a doctor that worked at one of the hospitals I used to work at. This was a special place. The doctors were genuinely kind and giving people. They were the very, very best in their class in the world. And yet they worked for a charity organization that couldn't afford to pay them very much.  This gentleman was very smart.  Helped fix a lot of broken kids.

I was smarting off about what I saw coming. I told him that it wouldn't be too long before routine surgeries were done by robots, certainly overseen by humans, but the robots would do them because they would have access to the data from every single surgery on which data had been kept. They would know exactly the way that mistakes were made, and so even in cases where things went south, they would make better decisions than humans ever could.

He disagreed with me because human art is greater than mechanical decision-making.  That may not be how he said it. That may just be how my muddy little brain understood it.

My point at the time was that eventually the playing field will change and we may be surprised at how many of the first jobs that get replaced are very high-level jobs, things that people go to college for.

Phill's very reasonable reaction to the robot display at the Olympics sparked a memory of this conversation for me.

Why did Phil freak out when he saw those robots? Well, I'm too foolish not to be willing to tell my version of that story.

Phill saw the future in that moment. I don't know if it was a visceral reaction.  Or a chain reaction of seeing what is to come? They're the same thing, really.  But he's lived enough years on this earth to have watched things like this happen before. Different contexts, different areas of focus.

It's amazing, but human markets are almost as efficient as the weather. At least real ones are.  And the only time one can benefit from inefficiencies is when they can be sustained.  

The number of inefficiencies as well as other structures that are about to be unnecessary and impossible to defend anymore is hard to even guess at.  But the way things have been done and the fabric of all of the earth's societies in itself is racing toward and about to crash into an unimaginably strong front of technological change and new efficiency.

It's going to be an exceedingly violent storm. That's all I know.

[Lucius]

I saved a couple of boxes, so even though they were intended for the last bear market, I think they will be useful this year as well

[BitHodlers]

He disagreed with me because human art is greater than mechanical decision-making.  That may not be how he said it. That may just be how my muddy little brain understood it.

I doubt that I could classify the quality of most human work as art.  

My point at the time was that eventually the playing field will change and we may be surprised at how many of the first jobs that get replaced are very high-level jobs, things that people go to college for.

It makes sense because the monetary incentive is greater and it would start solving issues for jobs for which the demand is bigger than the supply too.

It's going to be an exceedingly violent storm. That's all I know.

The outcome is very unclear right now, but what is definite is that a major change is in progress. Luddites bring up steam machines and stuff like that to stay in denial of the massiveness of this change, but this may be the biggest change ever and much bigger than what the internet did. Those old innovations were all expansionary in total, but this one is very contractionary when it comes to jobs! I hope we have a nice landing.