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"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."
^this is so ridiculous...especially the offline part. It is not the damned computer, lol.

Say...employee "accidentally" copied the private key(s) somehow.
Does this, wallet being "offline", really helps in this scenario?
Of course, not.

Multisig helps, of course, as long as parts or a whole of the multisig is not on someones phones/computers.
Employees are not to be trusted..as data periodically leaks from almost everywhere.

@Biodom - Since you seem to think you know more than the SEC and these multi-TRILLION dollar financial firms; have you to tried contacting them to teach them what you think about that?
I think the SEC AND THESE MULTI-TRILLION DOLLAR FINANCIAL FIRMS ABSOLUTELY KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOU!!!  Dontcha kinda think?

You are retarded BTCETFInvestor.

You are not even grappling with one of the potential issues presented by Biodom.

Morgan Stanley operates in 42 countries, Blackrock operates in over 100 countries, and Fidelity operates in over 25 countries. The combined assets managed by Morgan Stanley, BlackRock, and Fidelity total approximately $23 trillion.

Don't you think they all might know more than little ole you?  Roll Eyes  Damn right they do! You don't know shit compared to them!




Here Biodom & JJG - Both of you are ignorant!

Based on reports, Morgan Stanley plans to store Bitcoin for its investment products using a combination of institutional custodians, rather than managing the private keys themselves; let alone a standard, user-level, multisig, setup.

Here are the key details regarding how Morgan Stanley approaches Bitcoin custody:
Custody Partners: Morgan Stanley has appointed Coinbase Custody and BNY (Bank of New York Mellon) to manage the, custody, of Bitcoin for its, proposed, spot, Bitcoin, ETF,.

Institutional Security: The, custodial, services, are, designed, to, meet, strict, financial, standards, involving, robust, digital, asset, infrastructure.

Active Expansion: Morgan Stanley is, building, out, its, own, regulated, infrastructure, and, has, applied, for, a, trust, bank, charter, to, potentially, directly, hold, digital, assets.

Focus on Security: While they are not using a retail-style, multisig, wallet, the institutional custodians employed use advanced, security, measures such as secure, cold storage to safeguard assets.


That is all well known, but nothing could thwart a corrupted employee, who for example, has to transfer btc from point A to point B.
Then, they "accidentally" leave the keys 'exposed' on some server with a bug...and...voila!
I keep getting mailings regarding various databases that were "accidentally" hacked.

This exact situation has been happening all over the place with one particular leak (from one hardware wallet provider) was due to a corrupted or, perhaps, "righteous" employee who was selling bitcoiner addresses and other info to criminals, allegedly. Maybe to spite those "nasty bitcoiners".

Say, an employee who was working with sending coins "accidentally" wore glasses with a tiny camera in them...etc, etc
Some losses are truly accidental, though:
https://gizmodo.com/south-korean-police-lose-seized-crypto-by-posting-password-online-2000728191

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Employees, government officials, and other individuals with access to the personal information of crypto users are also emerging as a key security hole. One former Revolut staff member allegedly tried to blackmail a customer by threatening to expose details unless a crypto ransom was paid. Separately, a French tax official reportedly leaked personal data on crypto users to criminal networks in exchange for payment.
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"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."
^this is so ridiculous...especially the offline part. It is not the damned computer, lol.
Say...employee "accidentally" copied the private key(s) somehow.
Does this, wallet being "offline", really helps in this scenario?
Of course, not.

Multisig helps, of course, as long as parts or a whole of the multisig is not on someones phones/computers.
Employees are not to be trusted..as data periodically leaks from almost everywhere.
@Biodom - Since you seem to think you know more than the SEC and these multi-TRILLION dollar financial firms; have you to tried contacting them to teach them what you think about that?
I think the SEC AND THESE MULTI-TRILLION DOLLAR FINANCIAL FIRMS ABSOLUTELY KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOU!!!  Dontcha kinda think?
You are retarded BTCETFInvestor.

You are not even grappling with one of the potential issues presented by Biodom.
Morgan Stanley operates in 42 countries, Blackrock operates in over 100 countries, and Fidelity operates in over 25 countries. The combined assets managed by Morgan Stanley, BlackRock, and Fidelity total approximately $23 trillion.

Don't you think they all might know more than little ole you?  Roll Eyes  Damn right they do! You don't know shit compared to them!
Here Biodom & JJG - Both of you are ignorant!
Based on reports, Morgan Stanley plans to store Bitcoin for its investment products using a combination of institutional custodians, rather than managing the private keys themselves; let alone a standard, user-level, multisig, setup.

Here are the key details regarding how Morgan Stanley approaches Bitcoin custody:
Custody Partners: Morgan Stanley has appointed Coinbase Custody and BNY (Bank of New York Mellon) to manage the, custody, of Bitcoin for its, proposed, spot, Bitcoin, ETF,.
Institutional Security: The, custodial, services, are, designed, to, meet, strict, financial, standards, involving, robust, digital, asset, infrastructure.

Active Expansion: Morgan Stanley is, building, out, its, own, regulated, infrastructure, and, has, applied, for, a, trust, bank, charter, to, potentially, directly, hold, digital, assets.

Focus on Security: While they are not using a retail-style, multisig, wallet[/color], the institutional custodians employed use advanced, security, measures such as secure, cold storage to safeguard assets.

Great!!!!!  You are so smart, and that will work really well, since at least when they rug pull you, they will still have the BTC.

I don't think you know what cold storage means, really.
Ask nicely and maybe someone here would explain why "cold storage" could be compromised.
Here’s a great YouTube video on it. I think the name comes from frozen assets.
https://youtube.com/shorts/7eOy6rRJieU

“I’m not very liquid right now.”
I’m here all cycle folks. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

You are very liquid right now, OgNasty, yet you may well find out that bitcoin's volatility might not work in favor of your current supposedly liquid state.. but yeah, sure, go ahead and gamble and see how it works out for you.  Of course, you are not necessarily going to disclose to us dumbies when you happen to have had failed and/or refused to buy back in, to the extent that selling your teenie-weenie stack of bitcoin really means much of anything in the whole scheme of things, even though over they years it has paid off quite well for a good number of guys (perhaps in these here parts?) to have been focusing on mostly accumulating and HODLing their coins (not accumulating and HODLing cash).

By the way, you might be feeling rich to be tipping your waitress, yet when it comes time for you to go back to buy some cornz, you might realize that you were not as rich as you thought that you were since you were using cashed out funds for consumption purposes way before you have even come close to reaching overaccumulation status (based on your own prior disclosures).

Some of the error in your thinking seems to be that guys who have been in bitcoin 8-12 years or longer (or perhaps who had gotten to their overaccumulation status in recent years) would be having troubles tipping their waitresses in dippening times like our current ones.  For reasons that I mentioned in my various other posts, they likely are not having as many cash problems as you are imagining them to be having, even if you are imagining such issues.

Could you explain this part in bold?
"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."
What is the difference between being offline and being disconnected from the internet?

I was curious. The thing is, we can actually do two "different" things at the same time; that should be more than protected.  Roll Eyes

Many of us know that access to your private keys can be gotten through online breaches, yet they can also be access through back ups, so if you have not always safeguarded your private keys, there could be private key vulnerabilities, even if your BTC are not "online."

For example, if you had a 12 word passphrase, and someone was able to see 9 of those words.. they could probably brute force the other 3 words, yet that does not have to do with the information being online - even though people make all kinds of mistakes, even in thought-to-be sophisticated set-ups.

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The part that is in quotation marks (including in bold) is a quotation from the prior BTCETF investor post.
Let him explain what it really meant  Wink

...but...in short... the journo who wrote it has no idea...he/she thinks that bitcoins are tucked inside the vault, happily disconnected from the Internet like a hard drive would be, lol

Another good point.

Sometimes we don't necessarily know what we don't know, even if we are acting smarter than everyone else.



Ok.. sure .. We have a live sample.  Below is an example of dumb acting as if smart (expert), when not knowing shit.. .

hahahahaha

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Geez!
......{Edited out some dumb shit]....
Why are you acting so stupid as if this security practice is somehow a red flag troubling issue?[/color][/b]
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If you are interested - ......{Edited out more dumb shit]....[/size]
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Could you explain this part in bold?

"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."

What is the difference between being offline and being disconnected from the internet?

I was curious. The thing is, we can actually do two "different" things at the same time; that should be more than protected.  Roll Eyes

The part that is in quotation marks (including in bold) is a quotation from the prior BTCETF investor post.
Let him explain what it really meant  Wink

...but...in short... the journo who wrote it has no idea...he/she thinks that bitcoins are tucked inside the vault, happily disconnected from the Internet like a hard drive would be, lol

I know it was a quote...
But I found it funny that he said it was necessary to do two different things, when in reality the two things mentioned are exactly the same thing.




Ok.. sure .. We have a live sample.  Below is an example of dumb acting as if smart (expert), when not knowing shit.. .

That's why you always need to have a bucket of popcorn next to your computer.
You don't have one?  Tongue
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A staring contest with squirrels?
That sounds like you got yourself into quite some situation there.



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 Maybe this AI project actually achieved autonomy, had the devs "drafted" Hillary-style. and took the project to its typical meme-token conclusion in the most efficient was possible using MEV to front run the usual profit erosion.  Launch, advertise and rug-pull in a month or less.  Not bad.

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When someone challenges the security of a multi-trillion-dollar firm's Bitcoin cold storage, they are usually coming from one of two places: a "Not your keys, not your coins" ideological stance, or a concern about centralized points of failure. Such a person is ignorant.

"Cold Storage" in 2026 is light-years beyond a simple USB stick in a drawer. It is a multi-layered fortress of technology, law, and physical security.

Here is the break down for the most secure practice ever known:

1. The "Air Gap" is Literally a Bunker
For a firm managing billions, "cold storage" isn't just an offline device; it's Deep Cold Storage.

Geographic Distribution: Private keys are often split into fragments (using Shamir’s Secret Sharing or MPC) and stored in decommissioned nuclear bunkers or Swiss mountain vaults across different continents.

Physical Isolation: These facilities are guarded 24/7 by armed security and are electromagnetically shielded (Faraday cages) to prevent any remote signal from reaching the hardware.

2. Multi-Party Computation (MPC) & Multi-Sig
The biggest fear is a "rogue employee" or a single hack. Firms solve this by ensuring no one person—not even the CEO—has the power to move funds.

M-of-N Quorums: Moving Bitcoin might require 3 out of 5 "key signers" located in different time zones to perform a physical ceremony.

MPC Technology: Modern firms use Multi-Party Computation, where the private key never actually exists in one piece. It is generated in shards that interact to sign a transaction without ever being combined, eliminating a "single point of failure."

3. The "Legal & Insurance" Moat
This is where the trillion-dollar firm wins over the individual.

Bankruptcy Remoteness: Unlike unregulated exchanges of the past (like FTX), modern "Qualified Custodians" (like BNY Mellon or Fidelity) use legal structures where client assets are segregated. If the firm goes bankrupt, the Bitcoin belongs to the client, not the creditors.

Insurance: These firms carry "Specie Insurance" policies that cover physical theft or damage—something a retail investor with a hardware wallet simply cannot get.



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