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[xhomerx10]

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CAB has not disclosed the technical method behind the wallet access, standard practice during an active case. Officials credit Europol with hosting meetings in The Hague and supplying the decryption resources that made the breach possible.

Made me wonder which those resources might be???

Computing power or funds for the computing power and technical expertise, it depends on how the keys were stored. If they are stored correctly, no decryption efforts can unlock them in this lifetime not even if you throw at it all the computing power of the planet.

Does not apply in a real democracy and legally sound country though, this is a legal process not criminals beating up other criminals.  Impossible with real encryption.

Anyway you can set it up in a way that you can't unlock it either under these conditions, so they may beat you to death but they will not be able to access it. Have you heard of something called multi signature or shamir's sharding? 

 We can debate the term 'real' democracy and 'legally sound' but I know for a fact that there was a torture house run in downtown Bucharest for at least 3 years in collusion with the USA (and the CIA).  The reason for this was the torture house in Poland was closed in 2003 after only about 9 months of operation.  It all came to light after the fact but these are just three 'real'  Western democracies.  Lithuania was also involved in this providing "overflow" space for prisoners (who were also tortured).  Great Britain was a little smarter about it but MI5 and MI6 provided interrogation intelligence and targeting data for the CIA and farmed out their torture houses to foreign dictators... yeah those 'real' Western democracies used Ghaddafi for years before royally fucking him over.  What are we at 5 now?

 That being said, I doubt any government could procure a wrench for $5 so I'm sure it cost them millions but I'm equally sure it could easily have been a wrench - at least symbolically.  FFS we're talking about Ireland here and they aren't exactly saints... aside from Patrick and I'm not 100% certain about him.  Maybe they're going all stabby on some of his relatives until he "remembers" what was on those "paper wallets" he printed out and stored in a "fishing-rod case".  Why would anyone assume a criminal wouldn't make up such a story?  He wouldn't have trusted anyone with information about the fishing-rod case, so how could it have been corroborated?  Cracking 500 coins every 50 or so days 5 years after his release seems a little "fishy" to me... this isn't bitcoin mining.  I think the story was concocted between Collins and the state and made part of the public record so that once he was released, he wouldn't be hunted down by non-state bad guys with $5 wrenches or worse and as part of his plea-deal (for which he had a lot of leverage) they allowed him to release the wallets to the state 500 coins at a time once his time was served after a certain period of time elapsed.  Maybe he obtained protection and immunity from future "unexplained", "fishy" wealth... who knows? Only he and a select few wards of 'real' democracy I suspect.

 I'm still butt-hurt over the 'death' of Gerald Cottan Cotten though so my thoughts may be biased.  I just have a hard time believing that someone who spent years creating fake accounts, lying to users and shifting stolen funds into private accounts dies of complications of Chron's disease 48 hours after arriving in India and less than 2 weeks after signing a new will giving everything to his girlfriend and his dogs, comes back to Canada as ashes in an urn with his last name misspelled on the death certificate.  One would have to completely shut off their brain to accept this story and I feel similarly about the "fishing-rod case".

[nutildah]

Years ago me and JJg had a discussion about shamir's and this search on the board is such shit i can't find it.

took me about a minute:

Multisig solves a lot of potential security issues without making things complex (which is a security issue by itself). It really should be the standard in case of managing anything else than pocket change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjS5qF65Yos

Shamir Backup seems like the best option to me. for a casual anyway.

Pretty easy and safe and secure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7WkAN0Gac4

I can't find half the crap I know I've posted over the years lately.

Try this next time instead of the forum search option: https://bitlist.co/search

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[Hueristic]

Does not apply in a real democracy and legally sound country though, this is a legal process not criminals beating up other criminals.  Impossible with real encryption.

Anyway you can set it up in a way that you can't unlock it either under these conditions, so they may beat you to death but they will not be able to access it. Have you heard of something called multi signature or shamir's sharding? 

Years ago me and JJg had a discussion about shamir's and this search on the board is such shit i can't find it.

I can't find half the crap I know I've posted over the years lately.

Thats literally one of the reason I don't even bother doing anything but shit post here now.

dont feel bad try finding the right post from four or five years ago when you made 6500  in 2020 and 2021.

i don't even bother to try

I'll probably forget where I put the bookmark for this "https://bitlist.co/search" next time I search.

[nutildah]

Happy Independence Day

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[hypebrother]

Happy Independence Day

excellent post. speaking for freedom of speech and not being doxxed to prison or an asylum or maybe being murdered. I have an announcement from our ANN thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5574506.msg66905513#msg66905513

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[nutildah]

excellent post. speaking for freedom of speech and not being doxxed to prison or an asylum or maybe being murdered.

uhh thanks but I am not taking credit for that. That was Grok, ok NSA? you guys can see that right? I'm patriotic as FUCK.

I'm so patriotic that when people ask me if I'm "free for the 4th", this is what I say:

[Hueristic]

Just spent half an hour and i can't find sparkler guy image anywhere, all the search engines suck now.

I give up, this one will have to do.



Happy 4th people.

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[vapourminer]

Just spent half an hour and i can't find sparkler guy image anywhere, all the search engines suck now.

you are not kidding

im tempted to us my local ai to do its own web searches on demand so then i can assign weights to the results based on my interests and, more importantly, ignore the known garbage.

basically what bob has done with bobc

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[asUHWEceyc]

quote from the linked article:

CAB has not disclosed the technical method behind the wallet access, standard practice during an active case. Officials credit Europol with hosting meetings in The Hague and supplying the decryption resources that made the breach possible.

Made me wonder which those resources might be???

Computing power or funds for the computing power and technical expertise, it depends on how the keys were stored. If they are stored correctly, no decryption efforts can unlock them in this lifetime not even if you throw at it all the computing power of the planet.

Does not apply in a real democracy and legally sound country though, this is a legal process not criminals beating up other criminals.  Impossible with real encryption.

Anyway you can set it up in a way that you can't unlock it either under these conditions, so they may beat you to death but they will not be able to access it. Have you heard of something called multi signature or shamir's sharding? 

 We can debate the term 'real' democracy and 'legally sound' but I know for a fact that there was a torture house run in downtown Bucharest for at least 3 years in collusion with the USA (and the CIA).  The reason for this was the torture house in Poland was closed in 2003 after only about 9 months of operation.  It all came to light after the fact but these are just three 'real'  Western democracies.  Lithuania was also involved in this providing "overflow" space for prisoners (who were also tortured).  Great Britain was a little smarter about it but MI5 and MI6 provided interrogation intelligence and targeting data for the CIA and farmed out their torture houses to foreign dictators... yeah those 'real' Western democracies used Ghaddafi for years before royally fucking him over.  What are we at 5 now?

 That being said, I doubt any government could procure a wrench for $5 so I'm sure it cost them millions but I'm equally sure it could easily have been a wrench - at least symbolically.  FFS we're talking about Ireland here and they aren't exactly saints... aside from Patrick and I'm not 100% certain about him.  Maybe they're going all stabby on some of his relatives until he "remembers" what was on those "paper wallets" he printed out and stored in a "fishing-rod case".  Why would anyone assume a criminal wouldn't make up such a story?  He wouldn't have trusted anyone with information about the fishing-rod case, so how could it have been corroborated?  Cracking 500 coins every 50 or so days 5 years after his release seems a little "fishy" to me... this isn't bitcoin mining.  I think the story was concocted between Collins and the state and made part of the public record so that once he was released, he wouldn't be hunted down by non-state bad guys with $5 wrenches or worse and as part of his plea-deal (for which he had a lot of leverage) they allowed him to release the wallets to the state 500 coins at a time once his time was served after a certain period of time elapsed.  Maybe he obtained protection and immunity from future "unexplained", "fishy" wealth... who knows? Only he and a select few wards of 'real' democracy I suspect.

 I'm still butt-hurt over the 'death' of Gerald Cottan Cotten though so my thoughts may be biased.  I just have a hard time believing that someone who spent years creating fake accounts, lying to users and shifting stolen funds into private accounts dies of complications of Chron's disease 48 hours after arriving in India and less than 2 weeks after signing a new will giving everything to his girlfriend and his dogs, comes back to Canada as ashes in an urn with his last name misspelled on the death certificate.  One would have to completely shut off their brain to accept this story and I feel similarly about the "fishing-rod case".

In Legal Democracy, you are decryption resource!

[ESG]

"Among his heros are George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
He even draws parallels between himself and Lincoln.

'Lincoln was a man who created himself from nothing
without any help from outside or other people.
I followed his struggles. I see certain similarities between him and me.'

He calls Reagan 'mad' and an 'Israeli dog' and says his people must shun all American products. But in the next breath he says:



 "Americans are good people.
They have no aggressions against us and they like us as we like them.
They must know I don't hate them. I love them.… I hear it is a complex society inside.
Many Americans don't know about the outside world.
The majority have no concern and no information about other people.
They could not even find Africa on a map.

I think Americans are good,
 but America will be taken over and destroyed from the inside by the Zionist lobby.
  The Americans do not see this.
   They are getting decadent.
    Zionists will use this to destroy them."


Muammar Gaddafi

 *The World Cup is widespread corruption in a single project,
 if it weren't for that, it would be cool to see the guys running after the ball...,
 the Mayans also did that, but instead of the ball it was a human head,
and the team that lost, really lost, and never played anymore... hahaha

48k is not far, but, 2026 will not see one hundred thousand by coin any more.lol...