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May 31, 2014, 11:12:19 AM

Because of my inability, I found it wired.

I must admit TA is not wired..

Do you mean 'weird'....or is this some new street slang?

What is weird about (what is essentially) mathematics?

Sorry, should be 'weird'.

Mathematics is of course not weird, neither chaos and fractal, as they tell  the nature.

But  Is nature predictable or not? That spins my brain.

I see TA is based on induction for probability. For the incapables like me, I find such induction turns out very weak in many cases. And that further spins my brain. I conclude TA is beyond my ability and not my cup of tea.

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May 31, 2014, 11:29:55 AM

Interestingly, whenever I used TA for my policy, I got my face slashed in one side, and if I sticked to TA, I got my face slashed in the other side.

Anyone explains me why TA is so weird towards me?
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May 31, 2014, 11:34:59 AM

Because of my inability, I found it wired.

I must admit TA is not wired..

Do you mean 'weird'....or is this some new street slang?

What is weird about (what is essentially) mathematics?

Sorry, should be 'weird'.

Mathematics is of course not weird, neither chaos and fractal, as they tell  the nature.

But  Is nature predictable or not? That spins my brain.

I see TA is based on induction for probability. For the incapables like me, I find such induction turns out very weak in many cases. And that further spins my brain. I conclude TA is beyond my ability and not my cup of tea.



The laws of nature (assuming you know all of them perfectly, and we don't) are perfectly predicable, this process is called science and physics (science is studying the laws, physics is applying the laws in formulas)

Nature itself not so much, as nature consists of many living things (plants and animals) that may or may not behave as expected. However even these living things often act in a certain way. So to some extent they too are predictable.

Also, some things are very hard (next to impossible) to predict even for supercomputers. As the laws that apply to them are far too complex for humans to comprehend, or at least with our current knowledge.

Human nature, or psychology, is predictable to some extent, but because of a thing known as "free will", humans are never 100% reliable.
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May 31, 2014, 11:51:45 AM

Dont Forget......Very bullish on thread count we will break 7000 in 2 hours Cheesy

What about the day that Bitcoin prices surpass the number of thread pages on the Wall Observer? Now that is worth a party!
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May 31, 2014, 11:53:51 AM

Dont Forget......Very bullish on thread count we will break 7000 in 2 hours Cheesy

What about the day that Bitcoin prices surpass the number of thread pages on the Wall Observer? Now that is worth a party!

Party round Adams house!
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Well, now enjoy the bull market.

Thanks I am. It's awesome to see this crazy coin take off  Smiley

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You do realize we follow a log trend, even if we are still below it now? Don't underestimate resilience.

I still don't feel like basing any decisions on the log trend. When looking back in history I tend to only consider the time after Gox. I may be wrong in doing so, but like you said we are not currently following that trend and I think it will take something like a new Silkroad, new markets or mass adoption to get us close.

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Gox was THE exchange. Now there are dozens of exchanges so if one fails, even Bitstamp or BTC-E which are both untrustworthy in my book, as we have already experienced a major exchange's failure and recovered from that, maybe noobs won't be so afraid when early adopters will tell them "yeah routine, +1000% this year too.". Same goes with government shit. PBOC made unbelievable efforts to make Bitcoin look bad and still here we are.
Don't take a big fall for granted if any bad news, that is what happens in bear markets, not necessarily in bubble times when the momentum is here.

I agree with you about the bad news and market direction and most other things you say here... but imagine a major exchange getting closed Shocked. Such opportunity Smiley It would be great if we didn't have to rely so much on the exchanges. At least there are more of them now and new ideas about exchanges are on the table. When I started trading I actually tried to sign up for Stamp, but they claimed they never got my passport and proof of residence (even though I had uploaded them without any issues) so I went in another direction. It was right around the time where the problems at Gox were becoming more obvious, so I was lucky not to fall into that trap (also thanks to BitcoinTalk and critical articles).

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I am not saying you should never sell, i did sell the day of the announce of the malleability of the transactions with the goal of buying back later and did pick the bottom. But don't overestimate yourself, we might just have been both lucky on picking the bottom once. Besides, i DO believe your default choice should be to hold bitcoins, not fiat, especially on these times when we had rallies, are under the long term logtrend, and that you can see many noobs on reddit saying they are coming. Even dogecoiners are finally realizing that Bitcoin is way more valuable and are selling their doge to get bitcoins, as you can see on the DOGE/BTC chart. Yes, even them finallly understand the value of Bitcoin. They needed 6 months to understand why it is better than dogecoin, some people are slow learners.

Yes picking a bottom like that is lucky and I kick myself for not holding better. I need to train that more, but it is also fun to predict the market. Since we have now had this bull market for a while I can finally safely experiment with some of my stash without risking loss.

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Thanks  Smiley
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May 31, 2014, 12:02:34 PM

Thanks, ChartBuddy!
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May 31, 2014, 12:12:52 PM

Dont Forget......Very bullish on thread count we will break 7000 in 2 hours Cheesy

What about the day that Bitcoin prices surpass the number of thread pages on the Wall Observer? Now that is worth a party!

would be interesting to watch...
We should start drawing a log chart with the BTC exchange rate and the number of posts in this thread and watch the "spread" shrinking week after week Wink
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I can't remember if it was you who shared a link for this docu.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo - It is saying the same basically the same thing as the flowchat... but not using a flowchart  Smiley When people doubt crypto because "it is just money made out of thin air" I like to share that documentary with them Smiley
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May 31, 2014, 12:23:14 PM

btc-e cautiously staying way behind
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This is good video that explains that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0
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May 31, 2014, 12:28:35 PM

btc-e cautiously staying way behind

$15 was the standard difference during october november last year? Granted that would have been a lower percentage.
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New buy wall at Stamp (trying to stay on topic)
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New buy wall at Stamp (trying to stay on topic)
Don't you mean sell wall? Hardly a wall though.
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May 31, 2014, 01:24:08 PM

Dont Forget......Very bullish on thread count we will break 7000 in 2 hours Cheesy

What about the day that Bitcoin prices surpass the number of thread pages on the Wall Observer? Now that is worth a party!

would be interesting to watch...
We should start drawing a log chart with the BTC exchange rate and the number of posts in this thread and watch the "spread" shrinking week after week Wink

Done - We are roughly looking at September 2015, unless we align during the March 2015 bubble cycle...



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