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February 22, 2017, 12:09:47 AM
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So I guess the US is the only non-third-world country according to cryptoinsiders. Shines some additional light on his stupidity. Did you know the US isn't even classified as a full democracy anymore?
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February 22, 2017, 12:10:36 AM
Last edit: February 22, 2017, 01:10:10 AM by MoveCrypto
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Sigh.  You are starting to convince me that ICONOMI may have some issues they may need to address.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/u-s-law-enforcement-actions-cryptocurrency-businesses-review-suggested-guidance/

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/fincen-clarifies-virtual-currency-payment-systems-trading-platforms-money-transmitters/

Can we get an answer to my previous question about where exactly "ICONOMI Inc." is incorporated?

Every single one of those cases in the first link was a US citizen operating a business from US soil.

Differences between Iconomi and those cases listed:
- located outside US, no US citizens on team
- doing full KYC/AML
- it's a legitimate business
- not a scam or linked to drugs business
- they will be paying taxes
- they have registered businesses with money-transmitter license

Kraken confirmed they have no plan to de-list ICN.  Even if they did, trading volume would move to a different exchange.

I messaged Burnside a few weeks ago, and he said he learned more than he ever wanted to know about Dodd-Frank act during the btct.co shutdown:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2017/02/03/with-a-stroke-of-the-pen-donald-trump-will-wave-goodbye-to-the-dodd-frank-act/#c5e93915b641

btct.co branded itself as a "virtual stock exchange" and it hosted an IPO for Labcoin, a mining company investment that was a complete scam and lead to hundreds of people complaining.

For the Erik Voorhees case, the thing that pissed the SEC off was he was a US citizen who sold an internet gambling business to an "anonymous investor" for 125k BTC.  He clearly sold SatoshiDice to an "anonymous investor" (himself) in order to avoid paying any kind of taxes on it.  He was find $50k, he moved to Panama, and SatoshiDice is still in operation today.

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February 22, 2017, 12:15:10 AM
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Big ICN investors will soon have no way out if Kraken.com delists ICN Security Tokens when the US SEC come knocking on their doors.

i kinda agree with you, but... it's crypto, you could say the same to any other coin/exchange. hell, even bitcoin is in "trouble" right now(pboc).
other investments(not crypto related) are way more secure, that's why nobody should be putting more money than he can afford to lose, but still good(high risk investments are good too) and if that is what is worrying you, you shouldnt be buying ICN or any other crypto/token/asset.
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February 22, 2017, 12:23:43 AM
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Easy for you to say while sitting in your 3rd world country, whoring your signature to the next high-paying ICO.

Big ICN investors will soon have no way out if Kraken.com delists ICN Security Tokens when the US SEC come knocking on their doors.

It's not a matter of "IF", it's only a matter of "WHEN"... and that will probably happen as soon as other exchanges complain to SEC because Kraken is blatantly eating the entire ICN trading volume pie.

Kraken has no intention of delisting ICN and that was even proven by a chat with their support who were surprised(to say the least) when they heard such rumors exist.

SEC won't come knocking on anything cause first they don't care and second nothing illegal has been done. US investors bought ICN tokens and they will be able to profit from dividends when they become available and sell their ICN at a higher price if they hold their bags long enough, so I see nothing wrong here either. Why would they want out from an easy money making opportunity like this? This makes no sense. Start making sense please! You've just been repeating the same debunked BS over and over for the past 3 weeks. You're even copy-pasting the same sentences.
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February 22, 2017, 12:25:43 AM
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Kraken has no intention of delisting ICN and that was even proven by a chat with their support who were surprised(to say the least) when they heard such rumors exist.

SEC won't come knocking on anything cause first they don't care and second nothing illegal has been done. US investors bought ICN tokens and they will be able to profit from dividends when they become available and sell their ICN at a higher price if they hold their bags long enough, so I see nothing wrong here either. Why would they want out from an easy money making opportunity like this? This makes no sense. Start making sense please! You've just been repeating the same debunked BS over and over for the past 3 weeks. You're even copy-pasting the same sentences.

Like I said, their behavior is the definition of insanity. They are either being payed to do it- or profiting off of it somehow- or they are literally nuts and think something has magically changed in the last 15 minutes since they last posted the exact same "concerns".
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February 22, 2017, 12:37:15 AM
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Like I said, their behavior is the definition of insanity. They are either being payed to do it- or profiting off of it somehow- or they are literally nuts and think something has changed in the last 15 minutes since they last posted the exact same "concerns".

They are desperate, that's what it is. There is literally no other explanation besides they are being paid by some competitor to spread FUD and keep ICN low, and they are desperately trying to deliver. When I think some cryptocurrency is shit or a scam I just don't bother. I certainly don't go trolling its thread and reddit fanatically for a month. Why would I care this much?

The other option is that they genuinely hate this project for some reason and they are putting all these efforts into their FUD campaign without being paid a single dollar from anyone. I refuse to believe that. Why? Because this would be so sad and pathetic that it would destroy all my faith in humanity.
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February 22, 2017, 12:40:03 AM
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SEC will come knocking doors for ICN ?

Fuds will starts again ?  Grin

please let me recover first  Grin
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February 22, 2017, 12:56:08 AM
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Like I always say -- "Competition is good for everyone"
Blockchain ICOs are the future, ICONIMI, MELON, TaaS, Edgeless.

soo exciting....
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February 22, 2017, 01:02:49 AM
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Every morning cryptoinsider wakes up to the news that ICN is still here and still well above ICO price even though he predicted it would dump down to nothing months ago, solidifying everybody's opinion that he is a complete idiot.
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February 22, 2017, 01:03:45 AM
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About legal issues, I think Kraken has done research, did Kraken break the USA law to list ICN? It seems not, IMO ICN should be legitimate, price is pumping, good to see.
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February 22, 2017, 01:06:41 AM
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And now he's posting screenshots of BS HE said on reddit as proof of whatever  Grin Grin Grin
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February 22, 2017, 01:09:25 AM
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ICN tokens do not provide voting power...
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February 22, 2017, 01:11:36 AM
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And now he's posting screenshots of BS HE said on reddit as proof of whatever  Grin Grin Grin

Reminds me of pizzagate.  Providing tweets, 4chan posts, and youtube videos from random anonymous people as "evidence" to backup your claims.

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February 22, 2017, 01:17:52 AM
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Cryptoinsiders also thinks it is idiotic to get payed for the posting you are going to do anyways lol. Oh no a sig bounty, how dare you collect free money that is sooo dumb!

I"m so insulted...

A million times better and more respectable than being a paid troll/shill like you are. You don't even post using your real/main account because you are just a tool. If you actually stood behind what you are saying for altruistic reasons you wouldn't be hiding like the coward you are.
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February 22, 2017, 01:25:59 AM
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The reason I keep calling Iconomi a SCAM & refer to Devs behind it as "Shady" is because they knew about all these legal issues DURING the ICO, yet they choose to keep quiet about them & continued to solicit investments from unsuspecting US citizens:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/54gq75/i_am_tim_m_zagar_cofounder_of_iconomi_fund/d82jwwv/


https://i.imgur.com/jhVPTwo.png

You MUST be American, lol.
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February 22, 2017, 01:27:15 AM
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And now he's posting screenshots of BS HE said on reddit as proof of whatever  Grin Grin Grin

Nope, none of those Reddit accounts are mine.

...and it doesn't take a lettuce to understand that those posts are far from BS.

Prove this. Cause from what we've all seen it's pretty obvious these are all alt accounts of the same person. You don't even try to sound differently in any of them. You have a limited vocabulary and it's giving you out. All of these accounts use the same slang terms and expressions and only an illiterate wouldn't be able to spot it.

Just one example is the "SEC WILL COME KNOCKING ON (insert anyone)'S DOOR". You just can't stop saying that can you? Doesn't matter what account you're logged in with. You can't say "SEC will pay a visit to" or whatever else, it has to be a knocking on a door cause you can only think of that. You came up with the door knocking thing and eureka, that was it, there just couldn't be any more ingenious way to put it. Time to go and copy-paste it from all your alt accounts  Grin
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February 22, 2017, 01:40:54 AM
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This is just ridiculous. Now that he's been exposed as a multi accounting paid FUDder he just resumes copy-pasting his own crap posts that have been debunked over and over again.

Can't wait for moderators to come and clean all this mess up and possibly remove at least this account of his from the thread.
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February 22, 2017, 01:46:32 AM
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Lol he posts the same exact message again this guy has actually lost his mind.
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February 22, 2017, 01:51:07 AM
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Cryptoinsiders why don't you come and post with your real account? If what you are doing is truly altruistic and you really think you are on to something then you would want to have such good deeds associated with your main account, it would be great for your reputation!

On the otherhand, the fact that you are only posting from alternative accounts greatly supports peoples' suspicions that you are just a troll/shill.

Put up or shutup.
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February 22, 2017, 03:02:53 AM
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@CryptoInsider
Okay. We all got that Iconomi is breaking SEC law.

There's no need to remind us daily about it and post same things daily.

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