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March 07, 2017, 01:53:41 PM
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I hope she wins so she can free french people from the nazi new world order
She will not win. How can you not understand that the threat of fascism comes not from Germany but from Russia. Or want to understand? It's so obvious! Name any feature of fascism which is not suited to modern Russia.
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March 07, 2017, 02:17:16 PM
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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.


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March 07, 2017, 02:20:12 PM
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I hope she wins so she can free french people from the nazi new world order
She will not win. How can you not understand that the threat of fascism comes not from Germany but from Russia. Or want to understand? It's so obvious! Name any feature of fascism which is not suited to modern Russia.

Modern Russia is not fascistic. It's based on more advanced and complicated models and theories which can be very hard to understand to someone who still believes in decaying promises of globalism and liberal emptiness.

http://www.4pt.su/en
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I hope she wins so she can free french people from the nazi new world order
She will not win. How can you not understand that the threat of fascism comes not from Germany but from Russia. Or want to understand? It's so obvious! Name any feature of fascism which is not suited to modern Russia.

Modern Russia is not fascistic. It's based on more advanced and complicated models and theories which can be very hard to understand to someone who still believes in decaying promises of globalism and liberal emptiness.

http://www.4pt.su/en
Europe has long learned a lesson about fascism. These other countries play with fire and what it will lead to God alone knows.
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March 08, 2017, 12:53:29 PM
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Europe has long learned a lesson about fascism. These other countries play with fire and what it will lead to God alone knows.

Nobody learned anything from Fascism, starting from "what it is". So we come to a World where Fascism prevails day by day at the hands of "anti-fascists".
Fascism isn't a set of things, it's a method. A monster you mostly likely to turn into if you try to fight it without understanding what it is in the first place.

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March 08, 2017, 01:12:08 PM
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Orthodox fascism in Russia. Real video with Russian fascists. What more proof is needed, that Russia is now feeding the real fascists. Putin only says that fights against fascism, and he is an exact copy of Hitler.
https://youtu.be/HmXu6G7DTsM

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March 08, 2017, 01:41:20 PM
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Donald Trump was never supposed to win the US election and even Brexit campaigners were surprised when Britain voted to leave the European Union, so the prospect of National Front candidate Marine Le Pen becoming French president does not seem as unlikely as it once did.

Ibtimes.co.uk : http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/field-podcast-france-poised-bitter-election-battle-can-marine-le-pen-win-1607621

Over the world changes are happening and following the trend, it seems opposition parties are really taking the day whether they have something to offer or not, people just want 'change' it happened in America and a host of countries in Africa so if a candidate is sure of what he can offer, then there is nothing stopping such from happening in a country that election matters.

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March 08, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
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Victory Trump and Brexit showed that in the Western world, the victory was to defeat populism. The Le Pen said that the victory trump will strengthen its position in the presidential race. The views of politicians are very close: they both advocate economic and political nationalism, against the admission of refugees and Islamization.
Trump and Le Pen is a populist stance against the "system" and traditional elites and called himself a "mouthpiece of the people."
Marine Le Pen is going to go the way of trump
Marine Le Pen is going to go the way of trump
Therefore, the electorate here is very similar - the front national, like the American Republicans, support white and poorly educated men who belong to the less wealthy, and disillusioned with the traditional political elite of France.
It is worth noting that the so-called political elite cannot cope with the socio-economic crisis which lasts since the 1980-ies - France's unemployment rate is among the highest in the Eurozone.
Besides, the current President of France socialist Francois Hollande beats records of unpopularity.Le Pen promises to hold a referendum on EU membership and the return of the franc. It is also for raising the minimum wage, lowering the retirement age to 60 years, reduction of taxes with the simultaneous introduction of additional tariffs on imports.
She also promises to focus on helping small and medium businesses, not corporations.
The national front has traditionally advocated the restriction of immigration and criticizes the policy of multiculturalism.Despite the similarity of the strategies of trump and Le Pen, they have more differences.
Trump was a breath of fresh air, as a novice in politics, while his rival Hillary Clinton was a representative of classical American elite, moreover, it has long been in high positions - Governor, twice the first lady and Secretary of state.
Marine Le Pen is a different case, she is a professional politician, despite the fact that her party has always been marginal in France.
In addition, opponents of marine Le Pen press on the same keys as she indicates the French political scientist Michel Martin.
I don't think she will be able to become President next year, and I don't think the election trump in the US, maybe there is something to change. Sociologists argue that marine Le Pen will be able to reach the last round of the presidential election, but lost the victory of the center-right candidate, probably Alanna Juppe. Most politicians are prone to such a scenario.
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March 08, 2017, 02:44:37 PM
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I hope she wins so she can free french people from the nazi new world order
She will not win. How can you not understand that the threat of fascism comes not from Germany but from Russia. Or want to understand? It's so obvious! Name any feature of fascism which is not suited to modern Russia.

Modern Russia is not fascistic. It's based on more advanced and complicated models and theories which can be very hard to understand to someone who still believes in decaying promises of globalism and liberal emptiness.

http://www.4pt.su/en

Alexander dugin is a synonym for fascism. Smiley

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March 08, 2017, 03:21:16 PM
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I hope she wins so she can free french people from the nazi new world order
She will not win. How can you not understand that the threat of fascism comes not from Germany but from Russia. Or want to understand? It's so obvious! Name any feature of fascism which is not suited to modern Russia.

Modern Russia is not fascistic. It's based on more advanced and complicated models and theories which can be very hard to understand to someone who still believes in decaying promises of globalism and liberal emptiness.

http://www.4pt.su/en

Alexander dugin is a synonym for fascism. Smiley
Why only Dugin? And what Putin is better? It is his policy aimed at the development of such organizations. Who has the loudest screams stop thief? The whole policy of the Kremlin 100% copies the policies of Nazi Germany.
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March 09, 2017, 06:13:58 AM
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Orthodox fascism in Russia. Real video with Russian fascists. What more proof is needed, that Russia is now feeding the real fascists. Putin only says that fights against fascism, and he is an exact copy of Hitler.
https://youtu.be/HmXu6G7DTsM

Yeah sure... a few random videos, which were taken 20 years back is your proof of fascism in Russia. You butt-hurt Ukrainian trolls need to get a life. The real fascists are your heroes, such as Poroshenko, Tymoshenko and Semenchenko.

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Less than 1 1/2 month before the first round of the presidential elections, Marine Le Pen is stronger than ever. Polls predict a comfortable victory on April 23 and the momentum is with her. The political conditions assist. Le Pen strengthen the weaknesses of her opponents. But at the international level, the Brexit, Donald Trump, the Beppe Grillo and now Martin Schulz sweep "systemic" candidates who until recently seemed to be safe. On the other side France's electoral system has developed institutional safeguards to maintain stability. According to the so-called "democratic discipline" in the first round you vote who you want. In the second one you vote against whom you fear. This time the french voters have really lost their faith in traditional political parties and they will not vote to support anyone. All they will vote against someone.
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Orthodox fascism in Russia. Real video with Russian fascists. What more proof is needed, that Russia is now feeding the real fascists. Putin only says that fights against fascism, and he is an exact copy of Hitler.
https://youtu.be/HmXu6G7DTsM

Yeah sure... a few random videos, which were taken 20 years back is your proof of fascism in Russia. You butt-hurt Ukrainian trolls need to get a life. The real fascists are your heroes, such as Poroshenko, Tymoshenko and Semenchenko.
Leave your propaganda for the Russian. Because in addition to them in such nonsense, nobody believes. Call at least one symptom of the fascism that you see in the behavior of these entities. Your Putin and more fall under the definition of fascism.
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March 09, 2017, 01:41:13 PM
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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.

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Common sense suggests that in the presidential race in France, the leader of the party "National Front" Marn Le Pen will go into the second round, and then lose his opponent, whoever he is, with a crash.
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Common sense suggests that in the presidential race in France, the leader of the party "National Front" Marn Le Pen will go into the second round, and then lose his opponent, whoever he is, with a crash.
This is what normally had happened but now you have to considerate Trump's victory, the fact that if Front Nacional lose Marine le Pen will retirate and that they will probably not have other chance like this to win presidency so will try to win.

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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.
I don't think the French have something to gain from what comes out of the Eurozone and especially do not believe that the return of Frank revive the economy of France.
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I believe that she can and I believe that she will, UNLESS the elections are totally rigged and the elites take action to stop her. Which they very well might, they are simply losing too much control with the recent successful Trump campaign and BREXIT. They may take very serious actions to stop her.



Marine Le Pen as part of his platform had declared that when she wins the election she will create a local currency separate to pounds. This statement is just like saying that France is going to join the brexit and the Europian Union will make a way sto stop her winning in the election so that no more countries will leave the union anymore. The union knew that they will suffer a big deal if another country will going to exit the union.

Perhaps she should bring back the Franc and replace the Euro. Aside from the initial hiccups, it will be beneficial for the French economy in the long term. Also, the French central bank will be having better control over their national currency.
I don't think the French have something to gain from what comes out of the Eurozone and especially do not believe that the return of Frank revive the economy of France.

They are not gaining anything by continuing to use the Euro. Just check how much value the currency has lost versus the United States Dollar, during the last two or three years. I have a feeling that the Franc won't do much worse.

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Common sense suggests that in the presidential race in France, the leader of the party "National Front" Marn Le Pen will go into the second round, and then lose his opponent, whoever he is, with a crash.

This is something that most pundits and people are probably going to think all the way up to the election, and I personally am one to think it's going to end up just like the US election ended up. With all the pundits being flat out wrong about the ratings and the polls + all the bullshit they were attempting to spew.

In all honesty, it is better for the people to think that it's going to be a landslide victory in Round 2 based on the fact that less of the opponents party people are going to come out and vote against Le Pen. This is the same thing that happened in the US, when Dems thought they had it in the bag so a lot of them didn't vote.

She's going to defy all odds, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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