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April 19, 2013, 01:41:57 PM
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Well... I think BFL is actually getting close to shipping their 1-chip Single (at least... that is what it looks like to me).
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April 19, 2013, 01:44:52 PM
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Well... I think BFL is actually getting close to shipping their 1-chip Single (at least... that is what it looks like to me).
This 1 chip thing is a Jalapeno
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April 19, 2013, 01:45:42 PM
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Well... I think BFL is actually getting close to shipping their 1-chip Single (at least... that is what it looks like to me).

close to shipping is not enought when u've be waiting all this time, they should be shipping from last year, anyway, really hope they ship only 5 gh's for the first 30000000 months
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April 19, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
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Not in anyway supporting the debacle that is the BFL product line development but in the USA a minir rig at 8kw would be doable on residential circuitry.

50amp x 240 volts =12000 x .8(maximum load NEC is 80%)=9600 watts

Now I know a lot of people do not have a 50 amp 240v line in their house but it is not rare by any means.Some electric ranges use it.Also it is not that big of a deal to run that circuit,however it could get expensive if the run is really long.

Most modern houses in the US can handle 20kw easily and most apartments.Even a Super LOW 100 amp service at could handle it.

On another note man.....BFL will never be able to get pre-order financing again.(unless I seriously underestimate the fanboys)who would ever believe anything they hav to say about Dates,Performance, and for that matter aesthetics.

Buddy of mine jumped on the BFL wagon in July,so around December when shipping was "just around the corner" he built a really nice walnut and cherry rack/hideaway shelf to appease the wife.She said if shes gonna a bunch of black boxes in her house they better be able to be hidden when guests arrive.But guess what..............the new jalapenos wont fit....and since his singles will probably be 2 little singles plus 2 LARGER jalapenos to hit the 60/gh mark his whole design is worthless.

Maybe i will buy it form him cheap for my DIY avalon chip based Modules..man BFL must hate their customers

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April 19, 2013, 02:23:03 PM
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he built a really nice walnut and cherry rack/hideaway shelf to appease the wife.

>Getting married any year after The Year of Our Lord Nineteen Hundred and Fifty A.D.

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.


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April 19, 2013, 02:35:41 PM
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Hope they ship soon, just wish they made them smaller  Cheesy
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April 19, 2013, 04:38:42 PM
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the big problem that came out these days is da power supply.
5 gh's is using about 36w, how much will be using a 1500 gh's?
a normal power supply wont be able to keep it workin, you'll need to set up a huge supply for that stuff

Just couple posts prior i showed that the actual draw of the device is more like in the 22.6W range. Well, it's actually probably a lot less, i did not count in the PSU idle power.
36W at outlet for a 1250W Corsair ZX PSU which is 80+ Gold, running at practically idle.

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April 19, 2013, 04:41:19 PM
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the big problem that came out these days is da power supply.
5 gh's is using about 36w, how much will be using a 1500 gh's?
a normal power supply wont be able to keep it workin, you'll need to set up a huge supply for that stuff

minirig product design is apparently abandoned, 3.5kw per one household switch is max.

Wrong.
16A * 230V = 3680W maybe but due to PSU efficiency, nature of A/C usual maximum suggested draw is just 80% which is 2944W
As A/C power is a since wave, drawing out 16A @ midpoint of wave is just 150V = 2400W max, PSUs try to optimize to take their power at the sine peaks, but they often miss the mark of their claims, thus D/C operators often recommend 70% of the max, which is 2576W

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April 19, 2013, 04:53:58 PM
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good news
btl just answer me on fb

Pedro Yule question: will we need a power supply for 5 gh's?
Mi piace · Rispondi · 6 ore fa

    Butterfly Labs We will ship the product with a power supply.
    Mi piace · 1 · 21 minuti fa

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April 19, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
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Gosh... Those asicminer auction bidders are going to be kicking themselves if bfl is able to ship these 1chip singles or jalapeños or whatever they are calling these 5Mh/s things quickly and in any volume.  I think the going rate is currently $800/1Gh (~70+ btc Per blade).  They must really think BFL isn't close.  

I think using the single sc PCB and just using one chip is a pretty shrewd move.  I felt didn't think they would go there... Way to make lemonade with the lemons.
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April 19, 2013, 05:03:57 PM
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its lookin like only 5 gh's is gettin ready to ship and so im happy
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April 19, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
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Yeah.... It looks like they will have a bunch to redesign with there power problems if they want to stick to there original chip density... But I wouldn't be surprised if they end up just shipping these signs with maybe half the original chips to deal with the unexpected power issues.   Surely the PCB is dirt cheap.  So what do you guys think.  Will they be able to produce a 15Gh (3 chip) or do you think they will hit the wall at 10Gh
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April 19, 2013, 05:35:01 PM
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its lookin like only 5 gh's is gettin ready to ship and so im happy

That product will suit the majority of people who have been use to GPU mining, and want to go a bit faster.

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April 19, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
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atm i would be happy with a 5 gh's coming tomorrow.
i dont mind about a 50 gh's or a 1500 gh's so if it have problem, better, im just waiting my 5 gh's
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April 19, 2013, 06:16:36 PM
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its lookin like only 5 gh's is gettin ready to ship and so im happy

That product will suit the majority of people who have been use to GPU mining, and want to go a bit faster.



I fit that boat. I paid $270 for a ~600MH/s 7950 video card. Similar priced BFL device is about 8x faster than that. I'd certainly love to buy 2-3 little 5Gh/s ASIC miners than 2-3 more video cards. Smiley
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April 19, 2013, 06:41:42 PM
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its lookin like only 5 gh's is gettin ready to ship and so im happy

That product will suit the majority of people who have been use to GPU mining, and want to go a bit faster.



I fit that boat. I paid $270 for a ~600MH/s 7950 video card. Similar priced BFL device is about 8x faster than that. I'd certainly love to buy 2-3 little 5Gh/s ASIC miners than 2-3 more video cards. Smiley

The GPUs can mine more alt chains, while the BFL product can only mine sha-256, but the most important factor is that you can order the 7950s today and have them within a week. BFL time to delivery? Not a clue...six months after their original ship date.

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April 19, 2013, 06:43:38 PM
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omg... ebay is full of scammers... just bought a 12 gh's quad core with 7970 inside, when i said seller that i was going to refund after opening machine and looking for my video board he cancelled the trade...
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April 19, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
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I hope that the BFL history will not be forgotten..... "Singles(little/SC) and minirig under the carpet style".....

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April 19, 2013, 07:58:21 PM
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5.3 GH/s @ $149 = $28/ghps

It actually costs $274.

They are comparing the historic prices of BFL and Avalon. If you're going to use the current price for the BFL unit then you must do the same for the Avalon, which is more than $10000 at current prices.

BFL has no prices for products. One must first have a product before it can be assigned a price.
So far, BFL is selling zero-coupon convertible debt with no maturity date.
At some point in the future, the debt might be convertible into a black box assembled by amateurs that might mine bitcoins for some indeterminate period of time.

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April 19, 2013, 08:13:03 PM
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5.3 GH/s @ $149 = $28/ghps

It actually costs $274.

They are comparing the historic prices of BFL and Avalon. If you're going to use the current price for the BFL unit then you must do the same for the Avalon, which is more than $10000 at current prices.

BFL has no prices for products. One must first have a product before it can be assigned a price.
So far, BFL is selling zero-coupon convertible debt with no maturity date.
At some point in the future, the debt might be convertible into a black box assembled by amateurs that might mine bitcoins for some indeterminate period of time.

And why should ANYONE listen to a nutjob like you that states in their signature that BFL has no working prototype in a thread that has a VIDEO OF A WORKING PROTOTYPE??
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