Is it time to get rid of Linux/JavaScript/Python kids?

[Tonko]

soliptic arguments.

http://soliptic.narod.ru/index.html

[Tonko]

fuck you, im going over to dank, to see funny colors. funny colors does not question my intellectual authority.

Rightly so. Peace brother!

[myrkul]

if the computer controlling my vat-brain crashed no stuff would happen, it can therefor not run windows.

I never said it did. You're not making claims about the vat computer, though. You're making claims about a computer "you" own. Which may or may not be a simulation inside that other computer. The point is, you can't know if it's actually running linux or not. You can't even be sure you have a computer. All you know is that you think you have a computer, and you think it's running Linux.

but it tells me so, and linux machines does not lie.

All you know is that you think it tells you so, and that you think Linux machines don't lie. You can't know either way.

all i know its that i don't know nothing(and that my machine runs linux)!

Correction: You think your machine runs Linux. You cannot know either way. You can't even know that you have a machine. You think you do, but you can't be sure it's not just what your brain-vat computer is telling you.

LIAR!!!!!!!!!

How can you be sure, then?

you are not allowed to use such arguments! im the only one that can use solipsism as an argument because, i think therefor i am! and as im the only one that is logically provable thinking here you can not make up soliptic arguments. ITS ALL IN MY HEAD! all i know that i use linux on my machine.

If I am just a figment of your imagination, and all this is in your head, then this has been you all along, and you are having an argument with yourself.

And if you're arguing with yourself, you're certainly not competent to judge what operating system you are using, much less whether or not you even have a computer.

Wouldn't you say so? (or did you just?)

[myrkul]

fuck you, im going over to dank, to see funny colors. funny colors does not question my intellectual authority.

[kokjo]

if the computer controlling my vat-brain crashed no stuff would happen, it can therefor not run windows.

I never said it did. You're not making claims about the vat computer, though. You're making claims about a computer "you" own. Which may or may not be a simulation inside that other computer. The point is, you can't know if it's actually running linux or not. You can't even be sure you have a computer. All you know is that you think you have a computer, and you think it's running Linux.

but it tells me so, and linux machines does not lie.

All you know is that you think it tells you so, and that you think Linux machines don't lie. You can't know either way.

all i know its that i don't know nothing(and that my machine runs linux)!

Correction: You think your machine runs Linux. You cannot know either way. You can't even know that you have a machine. You think you do, but you can't be sure it's not just what your brain-vat computer is telling you.

LIAR!!!!!!!!!

How can you be sure, then?

you are not allowed to use such arguments! im the only one that can use solipsism as an argument because, i think therefor i am! and as im the only one that is logically provable thinking here you can not make up soliptic arguments. ITS ALL IN MY HEAD! all i know that i use linux on my machine.

If I am just a figment of your imagination, and all this is in your head, then this has been you all along, and you are having an argument with yourself.

And if you're arguing with yourself, you're certainly not competent to judge what operating system you are using, much less whether or not you even have a computer.

Wouldn't you say so? (or did you just?)

no. because i able to impersonate 2 person at once i must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people does not use windows. so i must have a computer with linux, that im using.

[Tonko]

no. because i able to impersonate 2 person at once i must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people does not use windows. so i must have a computer with linux, that im using.

So it has been 'two' of you 'guys' in there somewhere talking to yourselves all along?

[kokjo]

no. because i able to impersonate 2 person at once i must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people does not use windows. so i must have a computer with linux, that im using.

So it has been 'two' of you 'guys' in there somewhere talking to yourselves all along?

3, im imaginating you too. but you are kind of stupid, thats why you are not arguing as much, properly why i have imagined you using windows.

[myrkul]

If I am just a figment of your imagination, and all this is in your head, then this has been you all along, and you are having an argument with yourself.

And if you're arguing with yourself, you're certainly not competent to judge what operating system you are using, much less whether or not you even have a computer.

Wouldn't you say so? (or did you just?)

No. Because [if I am] able to impersonate 2 [people] at once I must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people [do] not use windows.

Even were that true (and can you claim it is, if there is no such thing as objective truth?), it does not follow that a) you must have a computer, and b) that it is running Linux.

For one, you could just be imagining that you are impersonating two people at once, in which case you would not need a computer at all, and secondly, if you do have a computer, and if it is true that "smart people do not use Windows," then you might be using a Mac. Or even BSD.

[kokjo]

If I am just a figment of your imagination, and all this is in your head, then this has been you all along, and you are having an argument with yourself.

And if you're arguing with yourself, you're certainly not competent to judge what operating system you are using, much less whether or not you even have a computer.

Wouldn't you say so? (or did you just?)

No. Because [if I am] able to impersonate 2 [people] at once I must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people [do] not use windows.

Even were that true (and can you claim it is, if since there is no such thing as objective truth?), it does not follow that a) you must have a computer, and b) that it is running Linux.

For one, you could just be imagining that you are impersonating two people at once, in which case you would not need a computer at all, and secondly, if you do have a computer, and if it is true that "smart people do not use Windows," then you might be using a Mac. Or even BSD.

im imaginating that im using linux, and therefor it must be true. and you are inconsistent anyways you are a believer in NAP, remember? 

[myrkul]

If I am just a figment of your imagination, and all this is in your head, then this has been you all along, and you are having an argument with yourself.

And if you're arguing with yourself, you're certainly not competent to judge what operating system you are using, much less whether or not you even have a computer.

Wouldn't you say so? (or did you just?)

No. Because [if I am] able to impersonate 2 [people] at once I must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people [do] not use windows.

Even were that true (and can you claim it is, if since there is no such thing as objective truth?), it does not follow that a) you must have a computer, and b) that it is running Linux.

For one, you could just be imagining that you are impersonating two people at once, in which case you would not need a computer at all, and secondly, if you do have a computer, and if it is true that "smart people do not use Windows," then you might be using a Mac. Or even BSD.

im imaginating that im using linux, and therefor it must be true. and you are inconsistent anyways you are a believer in NAP, remember? 

You still haven't explained how that's inconsistent, and we're not talking about that. Don't try to change the subject. We're talking about the fact that you may be a brain in a vat, and therefore unable to state anything conclusively, even about what OS your computer is using, or even if you have a computer or not. All you know is that you think that you do, and you think it is running Linux.

[kokjo]

If I am just a figment of your imagination, and all this is in your head, then this has been you all along, and you are having an argument with yourself.

And if you're arguing with yourself, you're certainly not competent to judge what operating system you are using, much less whether or not you even have a computer.

Wouldn't you say so? (or did you just?)

No. Because [if I am] able to impersonate 2 [people] at once I must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people [do] not use windows.

Even were that true (and can you claim it is, if since there is no such thing as objective truth?), it does not follow that a) you must have a computer, and b) that it is running Linux.

For one, you could just be imagining that you are impersonating two people at once, in which case you would not need a computer at all, and secondly, if you do have a computer, and if it is true that "smart people do not use Windows," then you might be using a Mac. Or even BSD.

im imaginating that im using linux, and therefor it must be true. and you are inconsistent anyways you are a believer in NAP, remember? 

You still haven't explained how that's inconsistent, and we're not talking about that. Don't try to change the subject. We're talking about the fact that you may be a brain in a vat, and therefore unable to state anything conclusively, even about what OS your computer is using, or even if you have a computer or not. All you know is that you think that you do, and you think it is running Linux.

what are our premises in this discussion? except vat-brain... do i have free will? determinism/non-determinism?

[myrkul]

If I am just a figment of your imagination, and all this is in your head, then this has been you all along, and you are having an argument with yourself.

And if you're arguing with yourself, you're certainly not competent to judge what operating system you are using, much less whether or not you even have a computer.

Wouldn't you say so? (or did you just?)

No. Because [if I am] able to impersonate 2 [people] at once I must be twice as intelligent as both, and intelligent people [do] not use windows.

Even were that true (and can you claim it is, if since there is no such thing as objective truth?), it does not follow that a) you must have a computer, and b) that it is running Linux.

For one, you could just be imagining that you are impersonating two people at once, in which case you would not need a computer at all, and secondly, if you do have a computer, and if it is true that "smart people do not use Windows," then you might be using a Mac. Or even BSD.

im imaginating that im using linux, and therefor it must be true. and you are inconsistent anyways you are a believer in NAP, remember? 

You still haven't explained how that's inconsistent, and we're not talking about that. Don't try to change the subject. We're talking about the fact that you may be a brain in a vat, and therefore unable to state anything conclusively, even about what OS your computer is using, or even if you have a computer or not. All you know is that you think that you do, and you think it is running Linux.

what are our premises in this discussion? except vat-brain... do i have free will? determinism/non-determinism?

And now you're asking your imaginary friend to define the conversation you're having with him?

Boy, are we messed in the head, or what?

[kokjo]

And now you're asking your imaginary friend to define the conversation you're having with him?

oh no. you are talking to your imaginary friend, trying to mess with his imaginary mind.

Boy, are we messed in the head, or what?

yup much. and thats why its funny.

[myrkul]

And now you're asking your imaginary friend to define the conversation you're having with him?

oh no. you are talking to your imaginary friend, trying to mess with his imaginary mind.

You're forgetting. You're the solipsist here. I know there to be an objective reality. I'm just reminding you that, as a solipsist, you cannot know anything. You can only think you know something, and even that might just be what the vat-brain computer is telling you.

[Tonko]

My Lord! What have I unleashed?!!

[kokjo]

You're forgetting. You're the solipsist here. I know there to be an objective reality.

are you sure about that?

I'm just reminding you that, as a solipsist, you cannot know anything. You can only think you know something, and even that might just be what the vat-brain computer is telling you.

i think, therefor i use linux(if you think a little bit about it, its true).

i know what solipsism is, i did just claim it in the other discussion to win. I imagined a scenario where UPB was not applicable.

but yeah as a solipsist i cannot know anything, that is not based on "i think, therefor at least something exist". but you are allowed to imagine all possible things.

[kokjo]

My Lord! What have I unleashed?!!

Nothing. you don't exist, and can therefor not take any actions.

[myrkul]

i know what solipsism is, i did just claim it in the other discussion to win.

And by doing so, you lost.

[bonker]

IMO, beside the scammers, the incompetence of these kids is one of the biggest obstacles to solid Bitcoin services.

How about some industrial-strength Microsoft Web servers, ASP MVC, .NET and C++ programming of the adults?

correct on 2 points - python and javascript are for sloppy jizzwipes. As is Microsoft. Code in C on Linux is the only thing i respect... C++ = faggotry.

[kokjo]

i know what solipsism is, i did just claim it in the other discussion to win.

And by doing so, you lost.

im winning!


(remind you of anyone?)