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November 28, 2020, 10:31:21 PM
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Hi E01 - it is hard for the community to know who is right or wrong. However - what is 100% wrong is people who stored their eca on mobile and exchanges are deemed as unloyal and wont receive the ecap airdrop.

Can you please advise your intention for eca? You will still have a strong following - ECA will always be the original and main chain. Let us know if you will persists with eca and we the community will support it.
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November 28, 2020, 10:36:43 PM
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Hi E01 - it is hard for the community to know who is right or wrong. However - what is 100% wrong is people who stored their eca on mobile and exchanges are deemed as unloyal and wont receive the ecap airdrop.

Can you please advise your intention for eca? You will still have a strong following - ECA will always be the original and main chain. Let us know if you will persists with eca and we the community will support it.


hmmmm EcaForgottenSupporters  "Date Registered:   Today at 10:25:05 PM

the mobile wallet will surely be eligible and the exchanges it is impossible since E01 is hiding on it and the goal of ECAP is to eliminate it to start again on a healthy basis
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And for E01 =

lol you are really pathetic, why do you only answer that?

And you're lying again, no action would have been done without the massive sales on your personal account.

It's as if thief steals and as an excuse when caught = I stole because I knew the police were going to look for me
that does not make any sense

proof that we have acted urgently and that nothing is ready for ECAP!

When it comes to "the anomaly," you are the crypto's biggest noob. It is necessary to rescan because all the addresses have a few% of errors on the explorer.

Besides, take the opportunity to explore it, there will soon be more if you don't pay the servers.

the team never did anything against you, they could have hurt you and wouldn't have tried to talk to you trusting you.
And you dare "rogue" insults. Amazing !

it's very strange to see you so active now and to select the questions you want to answer.
When it took you days to come forward during the sales and you still hadn't answered the questions. (by being logged in every day to sell)

In conclusion again = YOU AVOID QUESTIONS and YOU ARE A SCAMMER





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November 28, 2020, 10:40:08 PM
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Yes I just registered an account as you guys keep saying to ask E01 directly on this forum. I dont have an account here so of course I have to register.

Regarding mobile - this is still being investigated and from the responses I've seen, it would also seem impossible due to technical constraints.

Hence we are the forgotten supporters.
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November 28, 2020, 10:42:31 PM
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Yes I just registered an account as you guys keep saying to ask E01 directly on this forum. I dont have an account here so of course I have to register.

Regarding mobile - this is still being investigated and from the responses I've seen, it would also seem impossible due to technical constraints.

Hence we are the forgotten supporters.

no worries but I want to stress it. And again NO, we are still working on the mobile wallet, it is not guaranteed yet but we are postponing the airdrop to successfully include the mobile.

You can stay with E01 if you want, but he's now alone. 100% of the team switches to ECAP.

ps: can you tell us who you are on discord or telegram?
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November 28, 2020, 10:47:12 PM
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Fair enough. Hope mobile works out for many of us.

We have spent lots of money investing in this coin so if we dont receive ecap then we have no choice but to support e01.

The ball is also in e01's court - does he want to continue? Please just end this once and for all.
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November 28, 2020, 11:18:46 PM
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Chances are we can make the mobile wallet eligible I think you will have a choice.  Smiley

if he wants to continue, he should already answer all of the questions on the previous page instead of trying to avoid them.

And your question is very interesting so I'm just waiting to see if he answers everything.

But I'm afraid he won't do anything for Electra like for years ... ECA will die if there are no more developers and he seeks war, there will be nothing left of ECA.

The website / explorer / mobile app / access ... if we were as bad as E01 says we can all cut and kill Electra by making it empty now. (already there is no longer any roadmap or developer)

The team was respectful in the announcement of the airdrop ECAP by suggesting that he continue if he wanted and he dares to insult "rogue", it could end badly if he continues this attack.
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November 29, 2020, 12:33:28 AM
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Hi E01 - it is hard for the community to know who is right or wrong. However - what is 100% wrong is people who stored their eca on mobile and exchanges are deemed as unloyal and wont receive the ecap airdrop.

Can you please advise your intention for eca? You will still have a strong following - ECA will always be the original and main chain. Let us know if you will persists with eca and we the community will support it.



I have sent all remaining funds that were promised for the project to the foundation. So the community and foundation can freely decide on how to operate the funds from now on and what objectives to pursue. The real question is if the foundation will decide to stay with ECA or not and it is something I am completely unsure about. If they do not stay with Electra, I do not know what they will do with the ECA funds. That is something they will have to answer and please do ask them because it will have an effect on which chain they decide to support. They will have more funds if they stay with Electra and lose half if they switch to ECAP but I am not sure if this is an important incentive for them of not. As far as the foundation tells me it will be around a week before they announce which chain they will support.


I am guessing the airdrop will happen because everyone loves free coins but to come to the level Electra already is at will take a lot of extra investment, work and time on their part and they will also start with less funding.

I am obviously sentimental towards ECA and if the foundation announces they are with the Electra project, it will have a good harmonious future that will include me as an advisor and contributor.  I am also very appreciative of the support you offer.
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November 29, 2020, 12:43:02 AM
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Chances are we can make the mobile wallet eligible I think you will have a choice.  Smiley

if he wants to continue, he should already answer all of the questions on the previous page instead of trying to avoid them.

And your question is very interesting so I'm just waiting to see if he answers everything.

But I'm afraid he won't do anything for Electra like for years ... ECA will die if there are no more developers and he seeks war, there will be nothing left of ECA.

The website / explorer / mobile app / access ... if we were as bad as E01 says we can all cut and kill Electra by making it empty now. (already there is no longer any roadmap or developer)

The team was respectful in the announcement of the airdrop ECAP by suggesting that he continue if he wanted and he dares to insult "rogue", it could end badly if he continues this attack.

I did not intend rogue as an insult. I don't think I have ever insulted a team member.
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The team said they know that E01 still has about 1 billion ECA in private wallets, and they expect ECAP to have about 10 billion less supply after the airdrop. Here're my observations:

1) The team have intentionally planned to reduce supply by 10 billion at the expenses of people who have ECA on exchanges. That is their ultimate goal, not just to get rid of E01. The team also mentioned that E01 has about 50 million ECA in Cryptopia, which is a fraction of about 2 billion ECA that belong to many holders. Their justification is that it's technically impossible to airdrop to users who will receive ECA back from Cryptopia in the near future. The fact is Cryptopia keeps ECA in only a few accounts, and anyone can see them from the block explorer. If the team really don't know how to airdrop to users who will get their ECA back from Cryptopia, then how can anyone trust them to develop a crypto project?  

2) The team said that they know which private wallets belong to E01, so he won't be able to get ECAP airdrop.
- If they can really prevent E01 from getting airdrops from these accounts, why they need to exclude exchange accounts from the airdrop?
- If they can't, then what's the point of the airdrop because E01 will get ECAP airdrop anyway?

3) If E01 really has only 1 billion ECA left, what's a big deal? It's not unusual for a 30-billion supply project to have whales with 1 billion or more. It's crypto, and people dump all the time. Are they going to do another airdrop if they find out that someone has more than 1 billion ECAP in the future? For whatever conflicts the team have with E01, don't use it as an excuse to take away investment from those who also spent money to buy ECA.

4) The team said they airdrop ECAP for free, so people who have their ECA in exchange accounts won't lose anything. If you read in the discord, you will see that community members (who will benefit from the loss of others) and some of the team members are wishing ECA to disappear after the airdrop. The team is even taking away the social media and a lot of supporters from ECA. They know really well that their intention is to leave ECA project to die. People who trade ECA on exchanges accept the risk that exchanges may get hacked, but Coinfalcon doesn't get hacked and Cryptopia will return about 2 billion ECA to account holders in the near future. People are not losing their investment because of the malicious hack, but because of the team's decision to exclude exchange accounts from the airdrop. The malicious act in this case is indeed done by the team.

BTW, Don't tell me that the QT-wallet runners are more important than others. They run nodes because they get staking rewards that others don't.

If you got to social media that the team has total control, you will see a lot of flattering posts by those members who can't wait to benefit from the loss of others. For those members who complained about unfairness, they mostly have been banned, and their posts were removed. Just go to ECAP twitter account, you will see how people really feel about this airdrop. https://twitter.com/ElectracoinECA/status/1331917075682635776

Team members always say that they have worked for free. Most of them hold a lot of ECA, and they will benefit from the increase of coin value. Stop pretending to be the saviors. You guys are just upset because you haven't gotten compensated enough for what you guys have done.

******* For those who think about buying ECAP, please run away from it as you can. The ECAP SCAM will fail miserably because it has bad intention from the start. This project starts by stealing investment from innocent people in order to reduce the total supply. It will go nowhere and is a SCAM even before it starts. ********

WHAT A SHAME!

  
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November 29, 2020, 02:03:10 AM
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Chances are we can make the mobile wallet eligible I think you will have a choice.  Smiley

if he wants to continue, he should already answer all of the questions on the previous page instead of trying to avoid them.

And your question is very interesting so I'm just waiting to see if he answers everything.

But I'm afraid he won't do anything for Electra like for years ... ECA will die if there are no more developers and he seeks war, there will be nothing left of ECA.

The website / explorer / mobile app / access ... if we were as bad as E01 says we can all cut and kill Electra by making it empty now. (already there is no longer any roadmap or developer)

The team was respectful in the announcement of the airdrop ECAP by suggesting that he continue if he wanted and he dares to insult "rogue", it could end badly if he continues this attack.

I did not intend rogue as an insult. I don't think I have ever insulted a team member.

The show is over, the curtains fell down. You have could be this awesome dude that people would admire when seeing you passing by in a crypto documentary explaining the route to success with the right people around you. Instead you gave it all away. Look what you did? You could have easily prevented this. Now you have nothing anymore, no legacy, just a shit show of nothing and people you onced loved are gone.

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November 29, 2020, 05:48:50 AM
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E01,

First and foremost, yes this is my first post; however, I have watched this project since 2017.

Secondly, with your sudden interest in responding and becoming increasingly more active, it has become quite apparent that you are either, 1.) worried or 2.) pissed off beyond any level you have ever experienced before. It could be both, yet you cannot contain your emotions which is causing you to slip up and make irrational statements, to which will allow all to piece this puzzle together. Until then just remember this; when you pray for rain, you’ve got to deal with the mud too.

RM

My activity has increased in response to the higher number of posts than usual and because it is a critical month for the project. I do try to remain objective in my responses but some emotion is likely to slip out from time to time. If you have the time, PM me which statements you considered irrational and I will try to reword them into a more rational state.
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But i will prepare a detailed answer, with proof of your lies, wait a bit please  Smiley



Be my guest.

Thank you.

first you didn't respond to this and i would like to understand you:
 
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Is there only one example since the blockchain technology exists, that an open source code needs an authorization to be forked?

Also i have read nowhere that the team will do a fork, nore a swap. It is explicit in their announcement that it is a new chain, so new genesis block.

Then, your comparison table.

I want to mention that this is YOUR point of view, and of course you perfectly have full right to express it.

And so, my turn:


/!\ Bellow from your statement /!\  listed to this form =>ECA has: XXX >> ECAP has XXX:



No pre-mine or stakes controlled by E01 >> No pre-mine or stakes controlled by EO1

Ok so we start by the biggest joke....

Why?

=> You sold all the premine in the shadow, acting like any exit-scam founders in crypto history.

e.g: the last month, since October 23.
Your deposit address in coinfalcon, the easiest to find. From premine > to an address > to cold wallet of coinfalcon well known.
3 transactions, and only the deposit addresses are used to access the cold.
 
http://electraexplorer.info/address/EeUZHkxP12NQtsZzDZZzzkQ76BM9PG8ZNL

More than ONE BILLION you sent to this exchange, and of course you didn't sold only here, you are responsible of the 'go to 0' in STEX as well.

Remember this: Blockain NEVER lies and we can track all until the genesis.

ECAProtocol part : TRUE

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Existing foundation + 194,086,398 ECA bonus >> No foundation to fund project or if they pick ECAP over ECA they will lose 194,086,398 ECAP as donation was after 23 Nov

well... this is the most pathetic part of your post....

Foundation asks you since 2 years to put the premine in hand of the ONLY ONE legal entity of the project, you always found excuses to not do it. Today we know why....

How do you think it makes you looking? You sold all as exit scam, and in a last attempt to not consider yourself as a thief, you sent a small part?

Ho... important point. A premine IS a premine. You have stacked the premine during a so long time, AGAINST the request to stop this from the team AND from the community!!!
Then you have decided that the stakes were suddenly your own coins??? How is it even possible to say this???

ECAProtocol part : you seem to not understand at all the term "new chain" and what it means for the project foundation

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Proven brand name + Multiple existing exchanges >>    Spinoff coins from main branch rarely succeed + No exchanges and will require thousands of USD to be gathered from stakeholders to get listed

Haaaa this is the first thing which makes sense, congrats, the ECA part of this statement is correct!

Except than you forgot the community team AND the community is the ONLY reason for this, which is for sure important to mention, right?

You have not contributed to the brand's renown. Worst you tried to sink the project with your actions... again, today we know why....

ECAProtocol part : AGAIN this is one more proof that you didn't care at all of Electra since the beginning, saying such things... it's only because you have no clue on how the team manages the project. If so, you would not say such non sense...
 
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EO1 has private holdings on 23 Nov  > EO1 will get a 1:1 airdrop on all private holdings that existed on 23 Nov

wow... you think that the team who did everything since December 2017 has not managed this already?
You really have a high opinion of yourself and a low one of the team.

ECAProtocol part : wait and see?

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All infrastructure in place >> Will have to deal with getting into CMC and creating a block explorer etc.

I can't believe what i read.... at this point it becomes clear that you really don't realize what you are writing.

Who created and host the explorer? > TEAM
Who created and host ALL 3rd parties interfaces? > TEAM
Who created and get the ownership of ALL the products? > TEAM
Who paid for ALL of this? > TEAM

Well, it will be faster to do in the over way, what do you have for electra?

A weebly website and BTC from selling premine of the project for your own interest. Did i forget something?

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EO1 donated all pre-mine to the project so all initial EO1 objectives are obsolete >> EO1 received no 1:1 airdrop for the pre-mine so all initial EO1 objectives are obsolete

If you read all the above, is it still necessary to talk about the first part....

There is one SUPER interesting thing you say here, "all initial EO1 objectives are obsolete".

Very strange as it was one of your excuses to not send the premine to the foundation: Because of your OWN ROADMAP.

Again, again, and again : Today we know why....

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Twitter and Medium account owners defected to ECAP >> Will start with a decent number of Twitter followers and active Medium page

Second correct statement, not bad.

Yes the community as told above is the main reason of the success of ECA, community created everything that exist and so are the owners.

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Unique code, reviewed and published for public viewing >> New unknown/unproven code which is, as of yet, unpublished
 
YES !

This is what is called "Open Source". And the team can be proud of that!!!
 
ECAProtocol part : obviously you don't get this point either, the new code for ECAProtocol is the V3.0 update which was supposed to be the new massive update of Electra blockchain, if you didn't destroy it all. Yes, it's not yet public, as it's still under development. As ECAProtocol is an open source project as well, EVERYONE will have access to the code before the release, able to compile by themselves, fork, update, make change ect....
Basic crypto stuff...
 
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Established business partnerships >> No partnerships
 
And we finish this by this wonderful statement, which is also interesting in fact!
 
What partnership do you have?
What support do you provide for these partnership?
What's your capacities to maintain this?
 
From what we know as community, your only act was to pay a dev to create Electra back in 2017, from a fork of Iceberg coin. And... hmmm... nope, that's good enough.
 
I guess when you have writen this in your comparison table, You must have exchanged ECA and ECAP probably.
 
So far from what i have read, all the partnerships follow the team in ECAProtocol as there are the ones who did everything since 2017.
 
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Conclusion:

I must confess that I used a "funny" tone to write this, it's dramatic enough as it is to make the drama even more dramatic.

No one care of my own feeling, but i will express it because this hurts me more than i want to admit.

It would have been so simple to be part of the team as they requested, to support the project you created back in 2017.

It's clear enough that you never expected Electra to succeed as it did. And you considered this... i don't know, like an experience?

But even if it was an simple experience for you, you were not allow to play with user money.

Think to that and about what you did...



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No pre-mine or stakes controlled by E01 >> No pre-mine or stakes controlled by EO1

Ok so we start by the biggest joke....

Why?

=> You sold all the premine in the shadow, acting like any exit-scam founders in crypto history.

e.g: the last month, since October 23.
Your deposit address in coinfalcon, the easiest to find. From premine > to an address > to cold wallet of coinfalcon well known.
3 transactions, and only the deposit addresses are used to access the cold.
 
http://electraexplorer.info/address/EeUZHkxP12NQtsZzDZZzzkQ76BM9PG8ZNL

More than ONE BILLION you sent to this exchange, and of course you didn't sold only here, you are responsible of the 'go to 0' in STEX as well.

Remember this: Blockain NEVER lies and we can track all until the genesis.

ECAProtocol part : TRUE


As I said before, I knew a malicious move was coming and acted preemptively and made initial position reductions without announcement but transparently.

http://electraexplorer.info/address/EeUZHkxP12NQtsZzDZZzzkQ76BM9PG8ZNL

The amount sent to the address you mention seems to be around 500 million unless I am reading it incorrectly. You are also not taking into account that large amounts of ECA was withdrawn from exchanges back to the public wallets and sent again a few days later. I definitely did not sell 500 million there. I did not at any point during this year control more than 900 million ECA pre-mine or stakes. Look at page 2 of this address if you want to see examples of ECA returning to the public wallets:

https://explorer.electraproject.org/address/EJXiQYb5tYjVdn8erLT92F6D5ZmCG2ZCvZ

While looking through the addresses to counter your argument I have actually come accross an anomaly. The wallet containing this address on my desktop has 0 ECA in it but for some reason it says 16,000 ECA in the block explorer. I will look into this.

The other arguments you make are generally about what the team did versus me. They did do a lot. I never said I did all the work and gave credit as much as possible but I also made important contributions and major sacrifices for this project. If some people want to start all over and pursue a new direction it is their choice.

You have decided to answer only one selected question, it makes sense because you just can't say much on all of this.

About your answer on this only point, we say exactly the same thank you. We talk about sending huge amount of premine to exchange.

i advise everyone to read my first comment then the answer (both quoted above)  and get your own opinion on E01 capacities.
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My activity has increased in response to the higher number of posts than usual and because it is a critical month for the project. I do try to remain objective in my responses but some emotion is likely to slip out from time to time. If you have the time, PM me which statements you considered irrational and I will try to reword them into a more rational state.

It's wonderful, you always avoid the most important questions and told that you are more active because of the increased activity.

Yet even when there was only one message, you did not reply.
You could have explained yourself before, (as long as it was possible to save ECA) instead of continuously selling the premine without answering.

Too late now.
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I have sent all remaining funds that were promised

You only sent a fraction of the total premind E01! Everyone knows the power of the blockchain:

CF exchange deposit address of E01, direct deposit from premine wallet: http://electraexplorer.info/address/EeUZHkxP12NQtsZzDZZzzkQ76BM9PG8ZNL

1,137,909,766 More than 1 billion but you send only 197 mil one day ago to the foundation?

This confirms that you are trying to be 'the good guy' but you arent!
Such a noob

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November 29, 2020, 01:54:41 PM
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E01 - let's assume the following scenario:

The foundation decides to give up the project and is dissolved. The funds held will be returned to you (the creator of the project).
What happens after that??
Will you lead the project as creators or do we have to assume that the project will be buried.
Please answer the question explicitly.

As we know, you acted out of premonition and sold Premine-Stake funds before anything happened.
Please state what happens to the currency you received for the sale?

What would happen to it if ECAP hadn't come about?
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November 29, 2020, 03:12:33 PM
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I have sent all remaining funds that were promised

You only sent a fraction of the total premind E01! Everyone knows the power of the blockchain:

CF exchange deposit address of E01, direct deposit from premine wallet: http://electraexplorer.info/address/EeUZHkxP12NQtsZzDZZzzkQ76BM9PG8ZNL

1,137,909,766 More than 1 billion but you send only 197 mil one day ago to the foundation?

This confirms that you are trying to be 'the good guy' but you arent!
Such a noob

Ps
Made a BT account specially just to reply for your crap on a beautiful Sunday!
Lmao


I have already replied to a similar statement made a few posts ago.
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November 29, 2020, 03:18:03 PM
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E01 - let's assume the following scenario:

The foundation decides to give up the project and is dissolved. The funds held will be returned to you (the creator of the project).
What happens after that??
Will you lead the project as creators or do we have to assume that the project will be buried.
Please answer the question explicitly.

As we know, you acted out of premonition and sold Premine-Stake funds before anything happened.
Please state what happens to the currency you received for the sale?

What would happen to it if ECAP hadn't come about?

If the foundation is dissolved and funds returned to me, then the project will go back to the initial objectives listed in the OP.

Premine is for the project, stakes are not. If ECAP hadn't come about this would have still been the case.

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November 29, 2020, 03:31:50 PM
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Why are you still ignoring the questions? It doesn't work in public and you prove to be a scammer and manipulator.

for example

why do you say that the stakes of the premine do not belong to the premine (and therefore to the foundation) when you said you should cover $ 1000 in 2017? and only need 100 million at this price (2017 price lol)  so why did you sell 700 million stakes for your personal account?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848351.msg21138302#msg21138302

Ps: if you take over the foundation you will have to show yourself publicly, don't forget that many people expect that from you  Roll Eyes
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November 29, 2020, 04:35:57 PM
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E01 - let's assume the following scenario:

The foundation decides to give up the project and is dissolved. The funds held will be returned to you (the creator of the project).
What happens after that??
Will you lead the project as creators or do we have to assume that the project will be buried.
Please answer the question explicitly.

As we know, you acted out of premonition and sold Premine-Stake funds before anything happened.
Please state what happens to the currency you received for the sale?

What would happen to it if ECAP hadn't come about?

Funds returning to me from the foundation is unlikely.

Article   11   –   Dissolution

2.   After   dissolution,   the   foundation   will   remain   until   the   financial   balance   is   0.

5.   If   the   foundation   has   a   surplus   on   the   financial   balance,   the   remaining   finances   must   be   spent   on   the   sustainability   of   the   foundation   where   possible.
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Last edit: November 29, 2020, 06:16:52 PM by Robofus
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You must have missed my message again, surely a coincidence. Every time you avoid answering this question you make your case worse.

Why are you still ignoring the questions? It doesn't work in public and you prove to be a scammer and manipulator.

for example

why do you say that the stakes of the premine do not belong to the premine (and therefore to the foundation) when you said you should cover $ 1000 in 2017? and only need 100 million at this price (2017 price lol)  so why did you sell 700 million stakes for your personal account?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848351.msg21138302#msg21138302

Ps: if you take over the foundation you will have to show yourself publicly, don't forget that many people expect that from you  Roll Eyes

in your last answer you also "forget" to answer that


Please state what happens to the currency you received for the sale?

What would happen to it if ECAP hadn't come about?
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