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August 13, 2017, 07:08:49 AM
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Everyone,

Considering that Stratis is also in CryptoBE, Electra getting the most views there is quite an achievement. I am aware there are concerns that I am posting less frequently. As Electra is working properly at the moment there is less need to do so. Also, note that I am only able to fully work on the project during weekends but despite this have achieved all of Electra's short-term goals. The immediate goal is still the same: get into an exchange where Electra can be bought and sold with fiat currency. I am in contact with a person who has successfully listed his own altcoin into Chinese exchanges who I believe can help speed up this process. Stay patient, I am fully determined to achieve this goal.

Thanks for the update dev. I'm holding this coin Smiley Keep the good work going.
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August 14, 2017, 04:38:56 AM
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Everyone,

Considering that Stratis is also in CryptoBE, Electra getting the most views there is quite an achievement. I am aware there are concerns that I am posting less frequently. As Electra is working properly at the moment there is less need to do so. Also, note that I am only able to fully work on the project during weekends but despite this have achieved all of Electra's short-term goals. The immediate goal is still the same: get into an exchange where Electra can be bought and sold with fiat currency. I am in contact with a person who has successfully listed his own altcoin into Chinese exchanges who I believe can help speed up this process. Stay patient, I am fully determined to achieve this goal.

Thanks ! Smiley holding this coin for long term

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August 14, 2017, 08:16:19 PM
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Still i am having problems with staking. It does not go smooth. I keep my system on, but sometimes it is giving 6K then the other day 2K on 3million coins.

Am i the only one?
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August 15, 2017, 07:06:24 AM
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Still i am having problems with staking. It does not go smooth. I keep my system on, but sometimes it is giving 6K then the other day 2K on 3million coins.

Am i the only one?

Staking isn't working that good as I was expecting... i stake like 60 + millions in 6 chunks of 10 mill, and i get like 50-60k each day which is not 50%
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August 16, 2017, 07:48:12 AM
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Everyone,

Considering that Stratis is also in CryptoBE, Electra getting the most views there is quite an achievement. ..

Wondering how much of that is just due to my searching for the rules of staking... Wink - several 100 hits a day certainly... Sad

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As Electra is working properly at the moment there is less need to do so.

There are still quite a few people who feel that staking is slowing down to much... but it's not remarkable for everyone to the same extend... (see below).

Still i am having problems with staking. It does not go smooth. I keep my system on, but sometimes it is giving 6K then the other day 2K on 3million coins.

Am i the only one?

Staking isn't working that good as I was expecting... i stake like 60 + millions in 6 chunks of 10 mill, and i get like 50-60k each day which is not 50%

Well - let's summarize what I got from digging so much with the explorer...

There are by far not all adresses staking...

From the top 8 on the Richlist:

#1, #5 and #7 aren't staking at all (about 22 % of all ECA combined...)
#2 + #4 (combined >10%) are staking permanently - these accounts are already broken down in to many relatively small segments. This has the effect, that although they get many blocks, they are more and more falling back - they get significantly less reward than would be appropriate, because they would need more blocks - OR LARGER INPUTS -. But the BIAS of the system to SLOW DOWN still occasionally splits relatively small inputs (reward them EARLY - so that they have not to big maturity to split) while rewarding much larger inputs LATER - maturity is often >20 days...

#3 - an account with initially rater large blocks (solo mining during bonanza) was offline from July 14th to August 4. On coming online August 4, it started to catch up (large blocks with huge maturity - therefore many extra coins - and only later, those large blocks started to get split - so this account still gets a lot of reward with relatively few blocks, due to still large inputs...

#6, #8 and #16 - of which at least 2 - if not all 3 - are likely to be controlled by the dev - started out with inputs of XXL or XXXL size. While they stake regularly, the lag behind far less than #2 and #4 - because they have still - on average - much larger inputs - which reach lower maturity before staking - and than usually still split... (So those accounts suffer less from the slowing down due excess splitting - yet) So - if im correct about those (at least partly) - being the accounts of the dev - he would feel this less - at least at the moment...

Generally, the network weight is still climbing significantly, a clear sign that the lag is increasing, making it more an more difficult to get a fair reward.

(I haven't been a able to trace the staking FORMULA, although I tried to find it in the source code... - so im doing guessing from observation only...)

And to "Kiddo" - re-arranging the inputs BEFORE they stake probably (except with very small inputs) doesn't help much - it just resets the counter to zero...


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August 16, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
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Everyone,

Considering that Stratis is also in CryptoBE, Electra getting the most views there is quite an achievement. ..

Wondering how much of that is just due to my searching for the rules of staking... Wink - several 100 hits a day certainly... Sad

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As Electra is working properly at the moment there is less need to do so.

There are still quite a few people who feel that staking is slowing down to much... but it's not remarkable for everyone to the same extend... (see below).

Still i am having problems with staking. It does not go smooth. I keep my system on, but sometimes it is giving 6K then the other day 2K on 3million coins.

Am i the only one?

Staking isn't working that good as I was expecting... i stake like 60 + millions in 6 chunks of 10 mill, and i get like 50-60k each day which is not 50%

Well - let's summarize what I got from digging so much with the explorer...

There are by far not all adresses staking...

From the top 8 on the Richlist:

#1, #5 and #7 aren't staking at all (about 22 % of all ECA combined...)
#2 + #4 (combined >10%) are staking permanently - these accounts are already broken down in to many relatively small segments. This has the effect, that although they get many blocks, they are more and more falling back - they get significantly less reward than would be appropriate, because they would need more blocks - OR LARGER INPUTS -. But the BIAS of the system to SLOW DOWN still occasionally splits relatively small inputs (reward them EARLY - so that they have not to big maturity to split) while rewarding much larger inputs LATER - maturity is often >20 days...

#3 - an account with initially rater large blocks (solo mining during bonanza) was offline from July 14th to August 4. On coming online August 4, it started to catch up (large blocks with huge maturity - therefore many extra coins - and only later, those large blocks started to get split - so this account still gets a lot of reward with relatively few blocks, due to still large inputs...

#6, #8 and #16 - of which at least 2 - if not all 3 - are likely to be controlled by the dev - started out with inputs of XXL or XXXL size. While they stake regularly, the lag behind far less than #2 and #4 - because they have still - on average - much larger inputs - which reach lower maturity before staking - and than usually still split... (So those accounts suffer less from the slowing down due excess splitting - yet) So - if im correct about those (at least partly) - being the accounts of the dev - he would feel this less - at least at the moment...

Generally, the network weight is still climbing significantly, a clear sign that the lag is increasing, making it more an more difficult to get a fair reward.

(I haven't been a able to trace the staking FORMULA, although I tried to find it in the source code... - so im doing guessing from observation only...)

And to "Kiddo" - re-arranging the inputs BEFORE they stake probably (except with very small inputs) doesn't help much - it just resets the counter to zero...




+1 I am #20 and i don't get POS reward i am supposed to receive

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August 17, 2017, 06:38:31 AM
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Everyone,

Considering that Stratis is also in CryptoBE, Electra getting the most views there is quite an achievement. ..

Wondering how much of that is just due to my searching for the rules of staking... Wink - several 100 hits a day certainly... Sad

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As Electra is working properly at the moment there is less need to do so.

There are still quite a few people who feel that staking is slowing down to much... but it's not remarkable for everyone to the same extend... (see below).

Still i am having problems with staking. It does not go smooth. I keep my system on, but sometimes it is giving 6K then the other day 2K on 3million coins.

Am i the only one?

Staking isn't working that good as I was expecting... i stake like 60 + millions in 6 chunks of 10 mill, and i get like 50-60k each day which is not 50%

Well - let's summarize what I got from digging so much with the explorer...

There are by far not all adresses staking...

From the top 8 on the Richlist:

#1, #5 and #7 aren't staking at all (about 22 % of all ECA combined...)
#2 + #4 (combined >10%) are staking permanently - these accounts are already broken down in to many relatively small segments. This has the effect, that although they get many blocks, they are more and more falling back - they get significantly less reward than would be appropriate, because they would need more blocks - OR LARGER INPUTS -. But the BIAS of the system to SLOW DOWN still occasionally splits relatively small inputs (reward them EARLY - so that they have not to big maturity to split) while rewarding much larger inputs LATER - maturity is often >20 days...

#3 - an account with initially rater large blocks (solo mining during bonanza) was offline from July 14th to August 4. On coming online August 4, it started to catch up (large blocks with huge maturity - therefore many extra coins - and only later, those large blocks started to get split - so this account still gets a lot of reward with relatively few blocks, due to still large inputs...

#6, #8 and #16 - of which at least 2 - if not all 3 - are likely to be controlled by the dev - started out with inputs of XXL or XXXL size. While they stake regularly, the lag behind far less than #2 and #4 - because they have still - on average - much larger inputs - which reach lower maturity before staking - and than usually still split... (So those accounts suffer less from the slowing down due excess splitting - yet) So - if im correct about those (at least partly) - being the accounts of the dev - he would feel this less - at least at the moment...

Generally, the network weight is still climbing significantly, a clear sign that the lag is increasing, making it more an more difficult to get a fair reward.

(I haven't been a able to trace the staking FORMULA, although I tried to find it in the source code... - so im doing guessing from observation only...)

And to "Kiddo" - re-arranging the inputs BEFORE they stake probably (except with very small inputs) doesn't help much - it just resets the counter to zero...




+1 I am #20 and i don't get POS reward i am supposed to receive

So... with that said the dev have something to work at. To ballance the PoS system to allow little holders like me and others and to fix it to give us the 50% APR stated in the OP.
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August 18, 2017, 12:19:49 PM
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@Electra01

Sent you pm. Would you please check.

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August 18, 2017, 02:27:07 PM
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POS works like charm for me.
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August 18, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
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eating wall 18 btc
https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_ECA/

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Who want rich lets try here https://bc.game/i-41rqo2sb-n/
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August 18, 2017, 05:08:39 PM
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Project needs better objectives beside adding to exchanges etc.
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August 18, 2017, 08:43:57 PM
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Project needs better objectives beside adding to exchanges etc.

Getting listed on exchanges is not Electra's only objective. The full list of objectives can be read here:

http://electraproject.weebly.com/objectives.html
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August 18, 2017, 10:11:35 PM
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hope many investor will come in electra

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August 19, 2017, 07:39:09 AM
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POS works like charm for me.

Indeed it works, I didn't said it dosen't, but did you made any calculations to see if you get ~50% APR? Mine is something beetween 20 to 25% APR so far.
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August 19, 2017, 07:47:07 AM
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Pre-mine is a lot, not ICO? If you have great concepts to deliver, ICO could be better, your project is so-so, I think no ICO is acceptable.


No ICO is planned.
Pff, so why should you electra?
I once heard about the "Recoin". Immediately began to read and joined the bounty company, which will last not so long and I was given 50,000 tokens as a gift! It's stunning, because the token is based on real real estate and the school is confidently developing.
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August 19, 2017, 05:37:49 PM
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i see someone pull up price of eca

but i think the action have no effect

because supply is too many. 10M coin is made each day

and i want tell dev

china tighten Internet censorship

chinese won't be able to use many exchange





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August 19, 2017, 06:32:56 PM
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POS works like charm for me.

Indeed it works, I didn't said it dosen't, but did you made any calculations to see if you get ~50% APR? Mine is something beetween 20 to 25% APR so far.
I am making around 1/600 of my capital daily. If I am not wrong it should be ~80% APR.
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I am making around 1/600 of my capital daily. If I am not wrong it should be ~80% APR.

Well - 1/730 should be correct (the reward formula is (CoinDays x 0.5 / 365))(Or just plain and simple (CoinDays / 730). Most adresses I checked got between 50 to 70 % of that - not because of a different formula, but because there are to many inputs waiting for reward, and so the network weight is still building up. (Splitting of inputs goes still on, although there are already far to many staking inputs) IMHO, an average staking time of 3 to 9 days per input would likely be optimal, so the network would need about 1200 - to 1600 staking inputs - there are certainly many more...

But if you get 1/600 per day, you must be a special case - so we would have to look at the relevant details - for that we would need to no what adress your refering to...
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I am making around 1/600 of my capital daily. If I am not wrong it should be ~80% APR.

Well - 1/730 should be correct (the reward formula is (CoinDays x 0.5 / 365))(Or just plain and simple (CoinDays / 730). Most adresses I checked got between 50 to 70 % of that - not because of a different formula, but because there are to many inputs waiting for reward, and so the network weight is still building up. (Splitting of inputs goes still on, although there are already far to many staking inputs) IMHO, an average staking time of 3 to 9 days per input would likely be optimal, so the network would need about 1200 - to 1600 staking inputs - there are certainly many more...

But if you get 1/600 per day, you must be a special case - so we would have to look at the relevant details - for that we would need to no what adress your refering to...
I dont know concept well but I think my ratio normal since not everybody staking, I am making a explorer now. I will try to add this kind of statistics too. I will share it as soon as its usable.
Edit: I think I have selected lucky time range to calculate. I Think my income not more then 1/700. (I wasnt keeping wallet open 7x24 its soo hard calculate looking backward)
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August 19, 2017, 09:26:55 PM
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I dont know concept well but I think my ratio normal since not everybody staking (I)

The fact that not everybody is staking should not increase reward over time - it should just mean that the maximum supply will be reached later....

But my question adressed the fact that I couldn't find an account for which your claim (1/600) is valid over an extended period of time (say since August 1.). All accounts received clearly LESS than 1/730 - so you would either have to be a special case OR your looking at a to narrow time window...(without knowing which ECA-Adress we are talking about, I can't check...Sad )
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