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April 09, 2017, 12:58:59 AM
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why russia and china are blocking resolutions to force syria to tell which aircraft and pilot were flying under which operation and command...

I have no idea about what "resolution" you are talking.
The US side declared about "proofs" but no one have seen them.

This zone is under radars of NATO, and there are no UFO.

The only part there who have Sarin is Al Qaeda/ISIS and branches of them.

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April 09, 2017, 01:03:12 AM
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And I do not understand why someone demands evidence.

To call someone as goatfucker there need to have the evidence or not?


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April 10, 2017, 04:25:12 AM
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Odorless. Sarin in its gaseous form is odorless.
The first thing you read about in the reports of the latest attack is the noxious smell.
A disrupted munitions storage facility would have an odor with the fumes. A planned sarin attack would not.

Daniel Kearns, 82nd Airborne Division.

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Khutainy said: “They told us ‘HQ, we are losing control’. We had no idea what they were trying to say. Then they said, ‘come save us, we can no longer walk’. So the second and third teams went with just face masks. We could smell it from 500 metres away.

This is a "proof". The Sarin with Smell.

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April 10, 2017, 04:44:50 AM
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There are lots of problems with this gas attack.

1) The village was not far out in the styx, it was a place reachable by journalists. Assad wouldn't be likely to use gas in the current climate, but if he did it would not be where it would be found out.

2) First reports said witnesses saw sukhoi jets drop the gas. In fact a single source pumped that info heavily into hundreds of news sites which used the exact same quotes. Later reports contradicted this, saying witnesses saw missiles of some sort or something similar.

etc

In every government there are retarded imbeciles who penetrate the various 'secretive' agencies. These festering scum run around living out dark fantasies pretending that they are covertly helping this or that just cause, but they only cause harm.
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April 10, 2017, 05:31:41 AM
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This is "Hamid Khutainy, a civil defence volunteer in Khan Sheikhun" words of smelling Sarin.

Someone like this.






People run around, and die not.

That hole is claimed as "Air Bomb With Sarin"



Someone call it as "The only reminder of what happened is a small, blackened, crater near the northern part of town, where a rocket laced with a nerve agent fell, killing more than 70 people in one of the worst mass casualty chemical attacks in the six-year war in Syria."

But where are other bomb holes?

The "video proof" show 3 different explosions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYOMEDK_uVs



And this picture show the only one "hole".
Look at this Superhero in "Anti Sarin" mask.

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April 10, 2017, 05:37:56 AM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

Forget the part about chemical weapons, there are smoking guns err bombs that Assad used on his own people, yeah?

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April 10, 2017, 05:50:05 AM
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This location is under Al Qaida branch control.
You have lessons how to fight ISIS?

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Assad satisfying it said the people?
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April 10, 2017, 07:49:29 PM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

Forget the part about chemical weapons, there are smoking guns err bombs that Assad used on his own people, yeah?

This is where I have been at the entire thread..the last time I checked, dropping bombs was enough. Sarin is just icing on the asshole cake. I will concur it's odd he would do this, but, somebody did this, and somebody with a plane, and access to copious amounts of sarin. That we cannot dispute; and those are all features of state actors. At the very least, not publically denouncing responsibility and denouncing this is bad optics.
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April 10, 2017, 09:26:49 PM
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what confuses me is the fact that there is zero military value in such an attack  Huh

in fact Assad was winning; why should he do such a thing?

Really mysterious; the clear winners here are:

1. warmongers who want this thing to escalate to into a 3rd world war
2. pro-refugee industry

Look at all the poor Syrians, let them come to Europe or else they will be gassed....

It is terrible but I believe primary duty of Western politicians would be to make sure we are not affected, and the best way of doing this is stay out. Keep them out.  Cry

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April 10, 2017, 10:51:59 PM
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The Americans claim that they have some secret evidence that chemical weapons were used by Assad, moreover they have some dirt on the Russians. I think that after meeting us Secretary of state in Russia, we learn about these proofs.

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April 11, 2017, 05:26:54 AM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

The terrorists must have moved the chemicals before the inspection from America ever happened. There are military tactics that are done secretly and they have intelligence and insider including spies to tell them about any possible attack that will be coming in. Thus if I am right the chemical weapons might be moved to somewhere safe or if I am wrong the US have acted on its own accord without clear proof.

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April 11, 2017, 06:23:29 AM
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This location is under Al Qaida branch control.
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You are right. The city of Khan Shaykhun, and much of the Maarrat al-Nu'man District which encompasses it is under the control of the Tahrir al-Sham alliance. The main component of this "alliance" is the Jabhat al Nusra (Syrian branch of Al Qaeda).

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April 11, 2017, 04:09:05 PM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

... bombs that Assad used on his own people, yeah?

... dropping bombs was enough. ... At the very least, not publically denouncing responsibility and denouncing this is bad optics.

How do you know he did not denounce it? Obviously he did denounce it. Why were you not informed?
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April 11, 2017, 05:24:21 PM
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So what exactly were the reasons for the numerous known chemical attacks of the assad regime from 2013-2015? Maybe it is just what it is: using terror as a strategy.

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April 11, 2017, 05:30:45 PM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

The terrorists must have moved the chemicals before the inspection from America ever happened. There are military tactics that are done secretly and they have intelligence and insider including spies to tell them about any possible attack that will be coming in. Thus if I am right the chemical weapons might be moved to somewhere safe or if I am wrong the US have acted on its own accord without clear proof.
If it is fee to end the reign of the bloody regime of Assad I do not mind. Let under any pretext, it will be removed. In fact, if Syria was peace and harmony it would be a rich country. Just Assad held with the support of Russian, and they are not interested in the prosperity of Syria.
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April 11, 2017, 05:38:29 PM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

The terrorists must have moved the chemicals before the inspection from America ever happened. There are military tactics that are done secretly and they have intelligence and insider including spies to tell them about any possible attack that will be coming in. Thus if I am right the chemical weapons might be moved to somewhere safe or if I am wrong the US have acted on its own accord without clear proof.
If it is fee to end the reign of the bloody regime of Assad I do not mind. Let under any pretext, it will be removed. In fact, if Syria was peace and harmony it would be a rich country. Just Assad held with the support of Russian, and they are not interested in the prosperity of Syria.
Very even right think, but I still hold the view that chemical weapons were available in Assad, and he used it. But the army also reported that they found containers from these Russian-made weapons. So there are a lot of questions and it is exhausted.
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April 11, 2017, 05:43:13 PM
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American Senator from Arizona John McCain has accused Russia of cooperation with the Syrian government in the attack with chemical weapons, killing more than 80 people, including more than ten children.
The Republican Senator said at a press conference in Belgrade that he believes that "the Russians knew about the chemical weapons, because they act with the same base."
"I hope that such behaviour on the part of Syria, what is clearly visible cooperation between Russia and Syria will never happen again," he said.
McCain also warned Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from such actions if he did not renounce the use of prohibited weapons.
"The United States must first remind Russia that this kind of war crime is unacceptable in the modern world", - he stressed.
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April 11, 2017, 06:05:12 PM
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war crime  Cheesy..Your getting done for a war crime WHO ME Tongue  Well yes you didn't kill him nicely  Cheesy ..WAR CRIME Roll Eyes..

I chuckle when they say nice bombs  Cheesy Cheesy..Well that bomb only blows you up to bits Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Cheesy

If your at war you kill by any means Wink..IT'S WAR..To kill destroy the enemy WAR..

So bollocks to chemical weapons no different to good bombs Cheesy..GOOD BOMBS Cheesy< CRAZY.


I think they all have a drink at the weekend  and then go back to bullshitting us PUBLIC   I.E average JOE..

Putin has a dance with Obama wife in the disco at the weekend ..Then goes back and pretends to all us humans we are on the brink of killing each other..

DO IT   DO IT   DO IT  ..WE ARE NOT SCARED ..It's YOU LEADERS   WHO LOOSE YOUR BILLIONS Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

If i had what trump had i would be very afraid if war broke out it's all gone..
And so will he and his family ..Like ours..
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April 11, 2017, 06:58:24 PM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

The terrorists must have moved the chemicals before the inspection from America ever happened. There are military tactics that are done secretly and they have intelligence and insider including spies to tell them about any possible attack that will be coming in. Thus if I am right the chemical weapons might be moved to somewhere safe or if I am wrong the US have acted on its own accord without clear proof.
If it is fee to end the reign of the bloody regime of Assad I do not mind. Let under any pretext, it will be removed. In fact, if Syria was peace and harmony it would be a rich country. Just Assad held with the support of Russian, and they are not interested in the prosperity of Syria.
Very even right think, but I still hold the view that chemical weapons were available in Assad, and he used it. But the army also reported that they found containers from these Russian-made weapons. So there are a lot of questions and it is exhausted.
To blame the Russian. Always where Russian was there, the war begins. They only cry everywhere that the world, and in fact, their strategy for the worse in the world the less visible dirt from them.
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