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April 26, 2017, 12:10:03 PM |
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I am in favor of Death Penalty especially in drug cases. So many live had been ruined because of drugs, some young innocent are victims and the family is so much affected in the illegal drugs.
This is ridiculous. Are you out of your mind? I support death penalty for felons such as rapists, pedophiles and murderers. But what about drug users? Do you want to kill someone just because he tried weed for fun? He is not referring death penalty to drug users, if you read carefully you will understand that his statement are referring to the crime related incidents. This implies that he wants death penalty to stop people who are using drugs to stop doing crimes and death to drug peddlers and drug lords. One of the big reasons why crime is high is because of the increasing number of drug users. Drugs disrupts the neurons in our brains making the person to hallucinate, change their behavior that will result to making criminal deeds towards the society. The death penalty should be commensurate with the crime. I ports of drugs and especially don't support vendors of this poisoning, but let's be honest. Crimes are committed not by dealers, and drug addicts. I do not support the idea of the death penalty for dealers.
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SimmonenY
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April 26, 2017, 12:15:05 PM |
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I'm all for the appropriate punishment. If a person is a serial killer and a psycho then this person deserves to die and not be a trouble for society anymore. Why should my taxes feed and maintain this piece of sh*t? The only problem is that such calm and relatively fast death by lethal injection might not be what this criminal really deserves.
Cause you can never be 100% sure that the guy is guilty... That's why you pay. To be sure that you're not killing someone innocent. That's what makes you a bit better than a serial killer. Otherwise what's the difference between you and the guy you're killing? Of course I can be sure when all the evidences, witnesses and the criminal him/herself admits the crime. Some of them not only adimit, they are proud of what they've done. And the difference between me and that guy is that I don't want to kill and rape people I just want to prevent more deaths and suffering.
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yugo23
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April 26, 2017, 01:34:12 PM |
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I'm all for the appropriate punishment. If a person is a serial killer and a psycho then this person deserves to die and not be a trouble for society anymore. Why should my taxes feed and maintain this piece of sh*t? The only problem is that such calm and relatively fast death by lethal injection might not be what this criminal really deserves.
Cause you can never be 100% sure that the guy is guilty... That's why you pay. To be sure that you're not killing someone innocent. That's what makes you a bit better than a serial killer. Otherwise what's the difference between you and the guy you're killing? Of course I can be sure when all the evidences, witnesses and the criminal him/herself admits the crime. Some of them not only adimit, they are proud of what they've done. And the difference between me and that guy is that I don't want to kill and rape people I just want to prevent more deaths and suffering. Nope. Lots of cases even when the accused person admited the crime proved to be mistake. Under the pressure of police, victims and media it happens fairly often that innocents admit a crime they haven't done, simply because human brain isn't made to handle so much pressure. Experiences have even shown that people are able to create fake memories of their own if you repeat them something often enough, even something they haven't done. And if you want to prevent more deaths and suffering then you'll just give them lifetime sentences, true lifetime sentences. So if you were wrong by judging them guilty, they can at least start to live again.
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SimmonenY
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April 26, 2017, 02:10:51 PM |
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I'm all for the appropriate punishment. If a person is a serial killer and a psycho then this person deserves to die and not be a trouble for society anymore. Why should my taxes feed and maintain this piece of sh*t? The only problem is that such calm and relatively fast death by lethal injection might not be what this criminal really deserves.
Cause you can never be 100% sure that the guy is guilty... That's why you pay. To be sure that you're not killing someone innocent. That's what makes you a bit better than a serial killer. Otherwise what's the difference between you and the guy you're killing? Of course I can be sure when all the evidences, witnesses and the criminal him/herself admits the crime. Some of them not only adimit, they are proud of what they've done. And the difference between me and that guy is that I don't want to kill and rape people I just want to prevent more deaths and suffering. Nope. Lots of cases even when the accused person admited the crime proved to be mistake. Under the pressure of police, victims and media it happens fairly often that innocents admit a crime they haven't done, simply because human brain isn't made to handle so much pressure. Experiences have even shown that people are able to create fake memories of their own if you repeat them something often enough, even something they haven't done. And if you want to prevent more deaths and suffering then you'll just give them lifetime sentences, true lifetime sentences. So if you were wrong by judging them guilty, they can at least start to live again. What benefits does this criminal bring to the society while he's doing a lifetime? Of course there might be a mistake and the person is not guilty but that is why we have lawyers, advocates and medical expert review. To eliminate such errors we need to carefully revise and change a justice system, but those who deserve must be brought to an appropriate punishment.
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Malsetid
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April 26, 2017, 02:19:54 PM |
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I'm all for the appropriate punishment. If a person is a serial killer and a psycho then this person deserves to die and not be a trouble for society anymore. Why should my taxes feed and maintain this piece of sh*t? The only problem is that such calm and relatively fast death by lethal injection might not be what this criminal really deserves.
Cause you can never be 100% sure that the guy is guilty... That's why you pay. To be sure that you're not killing someone innocent. That's what makes you a bit better than a serial killer. Otherwise what's the difference between you and the guy you're killing? Of course I can be sure when all the evidences, witnesses and the criminal him/herself admits the crime. Some of them not only adimit, they are proud of what they've done. And the difference between me and that guy is that I don't want to kill and rape people I just want to prevent more deaths and suffering. Well for this it has to be that the justice system in a country hasbto be rrliable and fair. There have been several cases of people being metted the death penalty only to be proven guilty after they've been executed. I agree that these people who do ruthless crimes should be punished with death penalty but we have to make sure first that guilt is 100% certain or we may very well be killing innocent people
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April 27, 2017, 04:21:21 AM |
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I am in favor of Death Penalty especially in drug cases. So many live had been ruined because of drugs, some young innocent are victims and the family is so much affected in the illegal drugs.
This is ridiculous. Are you out of your mind? I support death penalty for felons such as rapists, pedophiles and murderers. But what about drug users? Do you want to kill someone just because he tried weed for fun? He is not referring death penalty to drug users, if you read carefully you will understand that his statement are referring to the crime related incidents. This implies that he wants death penalty to stop people who are using drugs to stop doing crimes and death to drug peddlers and drug lords. One of the big reasons why crime is high is because of the increasing number of drug users. Drugs disrupts the neurons in our brains making the person to hallucinate, change their behavior that will result to making criminal deeds towards the society. If a drug addict commits a minor crime such as theft, do you want him executed? If have no problem with death penalty, if the addict is committing crimes such as rape and murder under the influence of drugs. Such people must be eliminated. But the remaining drug addicts need treatment, not punishment.
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Okurkabinladin
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April 27, 2017, 07:45:34 AM |
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I am in favor of Death Penalty especially in drug cases. So many live had been ruined because of drugs, some young innocent are victims and the family is so much affected in the illegal drugs.
This is ridiculous. Are you out of your mind? I support death penalty for felons such as rapists, pedophiles and murderers. But what about drug users? Do you want to kill someone just because he tried weed for fun? He is not referring death penalty to drug users, if you read carefully you will understand that his statement are referring to the crime related incidents. This implies that he wants death penalty to stop people who are using drugs to stop doing crimes and death to drug peddlers and drug lords. One of the big reasons why crime is high is because of the increasing number of drug users. Drugs disrupts the neurons in our brains making the person to hallucinate, change their behavior that will result to making criminal deeds towards the society. If a drug addict commits a minor crime such as theft, do you want him executed? If have no problem with death penalty, if the addict is committing crimes such as rape and murder under the influence of drugs. Such people must be eliminated. But the remaining drug addicts need treatment, not punishment. Precisely. Thank you. If the person in question used mind altering drugs willingly, then intoxication is no excuse, when infringing upon rights of others. Regardless if we are talking alcohol or LSD. Afterall this is not debate about mentally disabled, but perfectly healthy people, who are unable to show in self restraint - even if they know it will have destructive consequences. There are times for soft approach, making excuses for filthy isnt it.
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SingAlong
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April 27, 2017, 07:51:32 AM |
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Death Penalty should not be a solution. We are not God to put the lives of people into our hands. Everbody deserves a chance to live and repent their sins. Might as well sentence them to imprisoned forever rather than kill them. By killing them means to escape from their seasons but by not killing them the payment for their sins would take in many forms like the strike of conscience and regret that will hunt them even as they sleep and this would justify what justice is.
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pyata4ok
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April 27, 2017, 08:17:13 AM |
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Death Penalty should not be a solution. We are not God to put the lives of people into our hands. Everbody deserves a chance to live and repent their sins. Might as well sentence them to imprisoned forever rather than kill them. By killing them means to escape from their seasons but by not killing them the payment for their sins would take in many forms like the strike of conscience and regret that will hunt them even as they sleep and this would justify what justice is.
Yes, we are not God to take life away from another person. We must learn to live peacefully and solve problems in a humane way.
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Okurkabinladin
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April 27, 2017, 08:53:38 AM |
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Death Penalty should not be a solution. We are not God to put the lives of people into our hands. Everbody deserves a chance to live and repent their sins. Might as well sentence them to imprisoned forever rather than kill them. By killing them means to escape from their seasons but by not killing them the payment for their sins would take in many forms like the strike of conscience and regret that will hunt them even as they sleep and this would justify what justice is.
Thats quite admirable, but I believe incorrect way to interpret gospel. Testament teaches us not to murder, but it doesnt in any way force upon you vegetarianism or take away your right to defend yourself, your family or your neighbour from wolves in sheeps clothing. You are completely right we are not God. So let God judge the predators soul after his passing. All we can do is to prevent more harm and suffering created by vile individual upon this world. I do not see much a of reason to prefer "life sentence" to death penalty. Its but a politics, clearing yourself of responsiblity and passing it to someone else. Locking someone up and throwing away key is neither brave, nor humane. If you find him guilty of heinous crime that are both againt law and humanity, then take a responsibility for his passing. Or let him be. Just my two cents.
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kreskko
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April 27, 2017, 09:09:15 AM |
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Death Penalty should not be a solution. We are not God to put the lives of people into our hands. Everbody deserves a chance to live and repent their sins. Might as well sentence them to imprisoned forever rather than kill them. By killing them means to escape from their seasons but by not killing them the payment for their sins would take in many forms like the strike of conscience and regret that will hunt them even as they sleep and this would justify what justice is.
And if someone killed or raped a person, stayed in prison for a while, then went out and continues to do it again? I believe that you need to cleanse the world of such debris.
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Janation
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April 27, 2017, 09:13:07 AM |
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Death Penalty should not be a solution. We are not God to put the lives of people into our hands. Everbody deserves a chance to live and repent their sins. Might as well sentence them to imprisoned forever rather than kill them. By killing them means to escape from their seasons but by not killing them the payment for their sins would take in many forms like the strike of conscience and regret that will hunt them even as they sleep and this would justify what justice is.
And if someone killed or raped a person, stayed in prison for a while, then went out and continues to do it again? I believe that you need to cleanse the world of such debris. These kind of people will do again these crimes if they are not be afraid of their punishment. Bigger and worst crimes must be punished by death penalty. If the punishment are not heightened the same as their crime, it will not work.
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Reid
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April 27, 2017, 09:14:20 AM |
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That is way too cruel. Just for the expiration they would decide like that. How about the family of this people that are shocked with just a short notice about their relative dying in a week. And that one who died with pain sure made his family left traumatized after such events. That is not democracy anymore.
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April 27, 2017, 09:28:42 AM |
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Death penalty just has got no place in a modern, cultivated and civilized society. That's it. Often, the perpetrators suffer from psychical issues, which is a lot of suffering already. With our knowledge today, there would be many possible institutions that could help such people, nevermind the fact that we have the technology to provide for them to be arrested as long as necessary and therefore to prevent any further damage to the public. Today, we should be at a point to get rid of medieval methods and try to arrive at the 21st century. I can only support the European supplier decisions.
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Okurkabinladin
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April 27, 2017, 09:31:31 AM |
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That is way too cruel. Just for the expiration they would decide like that. How about the family of this people that are shocked with just a short notice about their relative dying in a week. And that one who died with pain sure made his family left traumatized after such events. That is not democracy anymore.
"Traumatized family" should have taken care of, that their relative doesnt grow up to be monster in the first place. If they did not care about life and death of victims, why should families of victims care about their feelings about punishment of their relative? I wouldnt mind in fact, that family of said monster paid all expenses related to jailing and execution of their product. And what does democracy has to do with this? Did they teach you at school that in democracy criminals have more rights, than their victims?
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April 27, 2017, 09:32:35 AM |
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It's really hard to think or talk about death penalty just because we are talking about a person life. It's a valuable thing, but some people I think deserve it (I'm not here to be the judge but it's just my opinion on it and God is the only one who can decide). It's one thing that stands us from being an executioner, I don't know if it would truly help or not.
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April 27, 2017, 09:38:43 AM |
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If, for example, my child was raped and killed (hope that'll never happen), I wouldn't want to pray, I'd want justice, I'd want to be an executioner.
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April 27, 2017, 09:50:34 AM |
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If, for example, my child was raped and killed (hope that'll never happen), I wouldn't want to pray, I'd want justice, I'd want to be an executioner.
That's just because you confuse revenge and justice. And so does nearly everyone in this thread as it seems...
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April 27, 2017, 10:44:07 AM |
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Unfortunately I will say something that may sound cruel,
In my country the prisons do not have conditions, I would say that the prisons are extremely cruel.
People who committed barbarous crimes are thrown into these prisons.
20 years after you get out of prison what do you expect from this (criminal) person?
you may think:
The person changed, became another man... wrong.
The person got worse. Someone who was previously arrested for cutting into bodies of people, 20 years later gets out of prison, becomes a rapist of women, men and cut their bodies into pieces.
Now we have a criminal who rapes and then cuts into pieces the bodies of his victims.
I agree with the death penalty, barbarous crimes should be punished with the death penalty.
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April 27, 2017, 11:44:14 AM |
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Unfortunately I will say something that may sound cruel,
In my country the prisons do not have conditions, I would say that the prisons are extremely cruel.
People who committed barbarous crimes are thrown into these prisons.
20 years after you get out of prison what do you expect from this (criminal) person?
you may think:
The person changed, became another man... wrong.
The person got worse. Someone who was previously arrested for cutting into bodies of people, 20 years later gets out of prison, becomes a rapist of women, men and cut their bodies into pieces.
Now we have a criminal who rapes and then cuts into pieces the bodies of his victims.
I agree with the death penalty, barbarous crimes should be punished with the death penalty.
Yes, such people after the prison are getting worse and begin to take revenge on all innocent people in large quantities.
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