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April 26, 2013, 12:31:27 AM
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I live in Canada and hate speech is not acceptable here. If you are the victim of hate speech or any type of discrimination then you launch a complaint with the human rights commission and your case will be taken on free of charge. The perpetrator will need deep pockets to defend themselves and could go to prison.

3 years ago Ann Coulter was told to mind what she says while in Ottawa, lest she be arrested for criminal speech. Here is an article with her response: http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2010/03/23/ann-coulter-responds/

She threated to launch a complaint with the Human Rights Commission saying we were being hateful towards Conservatives. I don't think her complaint got very far. None-the-less we managed to shut Ann Coulter up.  Grin
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April 26, 2013, 12:37:45 AM
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I live in Canada and hate speech is not acceptable here. If you are the victim of hate speech or any type of discrimination then you launch a complaint with the human rights commission and your case will be taken on free of charge. The perpetrator will need deep pockets to defend themselves and could go to prison.

3 years ago Ann Coulter was told to mind what she says while in Ottawa, lest she be arrested for criminal speech. Here is an article with her response: http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2010/03/23/ann-coulter-responds/

She threated to launch a complaint with the Human Rights Commission saying we were being hateful towards Conservatives. I don't think her complaint got very far. None-the-less we managed to shut Ann Coulter up.  Grin

Terrible.  Freedom of speech; wait, no, except the stuff we don't like.  But besides everything you can't say, you can say anything.  Tongue

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April 26, 2013, 12:43:59 AM
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Sticks and stones...

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April 26, 2013, 12:51:20 AM
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Let me be clear, i don't consider anti Israel or anti Zionist sentiments to be anti Semitic.
It's good you make that distinction.
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April 26, 2013, 01:33:43 AM
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What i do resent is the idea that as a Jew I'm part of some grand conspiracy to run the world. I assure you I'm not. Just because you have a dislike of a Jew or some Jews, it's ridiculous to the whole race with the same label.
It'd be like arguing that all white people are racists, all black people are criminals and all Hispanics hopped the border into the US.

One thing I don't understand is why Jewish people are referred to as a race? Judaism is the religion and 'Hebrews' are the race.

Also, not all Jews are Semitic (Akkadians [Assyrians and Babylonians], Ugarites, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews [Israelites, Judeans and Samaritans], Ahlamu, Arameans, Chaldeans, Nabateans, Maganites, Shebans, Sutu, Bahranis, Maltese, Mandaeans, Sabians, Syriacs, Mhallami, Amalekites, Arabs, etc.) and most Semites are not Jews.

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April 26, 2013, 01:49:05 AM
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Antisemetism is acceptable because the JIDF exists. There needs to be a ying to the yang. Can't let those forum spies get off easy. (I have never posted antisemetism.)
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April 26, 2013, 02:17:05 AM
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It seems there is a lot of antisemitism on this forum and I'm curious as to why it's acceptable, whereas other forms of racism are not.
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I have no problem with criticism of Israel or Zionism.
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What i do resent is the idea that as a Jew I'm part of some grand conspiracy to run the world. I assure you I'm not.

You can't directly compare racism to antisemitism.  Skin color and biological prejudice are fairly clear cut, compared to the murky complexities of 'who's a Jew.'

The term 'Jew' can connote biology (genetic Jews), ethnicity (semetic Jews), religion (fundy Jews), politics (Zionist Jews), and culture (Jewy Jews).

Sometimes this slippery ambiguity is cynically exploited and used to avoid scrutiny or derail uncomfortable conversations by digressing into the semantics of Semitism.

Furthermore, Jews (unlike all other minorities) are hyper-represented in the (non-military) institutions of power: technology, government, finance, law, education, media, medicine, entertainment, etc.

Understandably, this often results in jealously, leading to resentment and fear:

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"If Kagan is confirmed, Jews, who represent less than 2 percent of the U.S. population, will have 33 percent of the Supreme Court seats," former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan gripes.

My advice is to not take the nasty things people say personally.  When people talk about "the white man" keeping them down, I understand they mean the WASP elites, not Joe Sixpack or me.

Full disclosure:  I'm not any sort of Jew but do tend to like their women, who also often like me.  Two reasons: Christian girls usually think I'm the antichrist, and my brainy bohemian worldview reminds them of their fathers.   Wink


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April 26, 2013, 02:18:50 AM
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The anti-semites and the conspiracy nuts overlap in a big way.  At least you don't have either delusion Smiley 

^^^^^Bigot Alert^^^^

You should learn to tolerate other peoples opinions you big Nazi!

You should learn to tolerate other peoples' opinions too.  God bless you!
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April 26, 2013, 02:34:39 AM
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So many groups setup for one particular group to punish people for disagreeing....

What up with that?
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April 26, 2013, 03:28:27 AM
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Bigot actually means someone of a view that is unchangeable - ironically, a very good description of the person who usually uses the term bigot in the first place!
Just putting this out there...
Seems to me that there are a number of key terms used by some people to shut down an argument they can't deal with.

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Three is the worst, as it involves being called a Bigot!

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April 26, 2013, 10:39:40 AM
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I don't know what you mean by "acceptable".

Just because the forum moderators don't delete certain posts doesn't mean that they approve of them.

I don't think that the majority of users on this forum find antisemitism acceptable. There are a handful of antisemitic conspiracy theorist nutters here.  The more extreme ones have already been banned, not for "hate speech" but for trolling and repeated off-topic posting.

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April 26, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
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Jewy Jews


That phrase made me smile.



But much more people think that jews are behind sinister plans to enslave world.

Truth is not democratic, just because lots of people believe something, doesn't make it true. Lots of people used to believe the world was flat
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