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July 23, 2019, 07:50:41 PM
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Just found this awesome chart while browsing Marca:

Total € spent in this transfer window and total signings made so far + top 5 most expensive signings in the most important leagues + total spent in those leagues:



These value seems not be very accurate.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/statistik/saisontransfers

Here or on Marca are using wrong data.

https://www.transfermarkt.it/statistik/transfersalden



Edit: probably the chart of Marca is not updated on a daily base.

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July 23, 2019, 09:34:57 PM
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I have never heard of the Player before now, £40m from Newcastle seem quite a fee, IMO.
Well, Real Betis just signed Nabil Fekir, a player that was linked to several top clubs, for €25M, so yeah £40M for Joelinton does sound like a lot. After seeing that fee you'd think that the guy at least finished among the top 5 top scorers of the Bundesliga last season, but nope, not even in the top10.

Nabil Fekir for £25M is an absolute steal, a player Liverpool was heavily linked with for about 2 seasons, He's transfer was supposed to around £60 - £80M then, How come dropped total interest in him, maybe his injury struggles. This is probably the most quiet transfer for a top player in this window.

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July 23, 2019, 10:37:18 PM
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Seems like they're starting to look for Pogba's replacement. News from Spain say that they're interested in Milinkovic-savic[1]. Honestly, from Pogba to Savic would be a massive downgrade

Milinkovic-savic is not a bad player yes he is a downgrade but is not a trash player, this year got a meh year but he was still in the same team against his will (he wanted to leave last year) so he probably doesn't players with the 100% every match with the maximum focus.

The rule is quite simple when a player wants to leave you to need to sell him or it will be a mess, first of all, economical since the player will not play at his best and his valuation will go down.

Sergei is a good player in the right condition and if he will go back on his 2 years ago condition he will be loved for his skill.

Believe me, he is not enough good player to go in any of the top clubs. I know them from national selection, and he is nothing special. His maximum can be Wolverhampton if they want him. Last days I read many speculations that Manchester United is interested in him, I hope this is false information, it is wasting money for SMS.
All of the newspaper speculations are just paid advertisements from an eye-popping attempt to sell it to someone.

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July 23, 2019, 10:41:14 PM
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Seems like they're starting to look for Pogba's replacement. News from Spain say that they're interested in Milinkovic-savic[1]. Honestly, from Pogba to Savic would be a massive downgrade

Milinkovic-savic is not a bad player yes he is a downgrade but is not a trash player, this year got a meh year but he was still in the same team against his will (he wanted to leave last year) so he probably doesn't players with the 100% every match with the maximum focus.

The rule is quite simple when a player wants to leave you to need to sell him or it will be a mess, first of all, economical since the player will not play at his best and his valuation will go down.

Sergei is a good player in the right condition and if he will go back on his 2 years ago condition he will be loved for his skill.

Believe me, he is not enough good player to go in any of the top clubs. I know them from national selection, and he is nothing special. His maximum can be Wolverhampton if they want him. Last days I read many speculations that Manchester United is interested in him, I hope this is false information, it is wasting money for SMS.
All of the newspaper speculations are just paid advertisements from an eye-popping attempt to sell it to someone.

Sometimes the bottomline of all these hullabaloo is money that they will get in either camps. But they basically know the real deal of these players.
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July 24, 2019, 07:03:25 AM
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There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
Some players don't seem to care about all of that. Maybe Bale is one of them, maybe not, time will tell.

Remember Oscar, the Brazilian who played for Chelsea? He was a good player and went to China at the age of 25-26. The only motivating factor for him was the money as he could have easily stayed in Europe and play for a top club. Nobody even talks about this guy now and he can probably forget about playing for the national team ever again.

Another example is Hulk, another Brazilian who is currently in Shanghai.

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July 24, 2019, 07:56:37 AM
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Gareth Bale is a transfer target of Beijing according to some reports. Clubs from China are well known for offering big wages so I dont think there would be any problems in the money department. But I still feel he has more to offer in Europe and accepting a move to China would be too soon in his career.

If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.
Haha you're very funny, Bale will be rich and won't guarantee he won't get injured in 3 years if he stays at Real Madrid and of course the difficulty in this is their club management like paying people without contributions.
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July 24, 2019, 07:57:59 AM
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There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
Some players don't seem to care about all of that. Maybe Bale is one of them, maybe not, time will tell.

Remember Oscar, the Brazilian who played for Chelsea? He was a good player and went to China at the age of 25-26. The only motivating factor for him was the money as he could have easily stayed in Europe and play for a top club. Nobody even talks about this guy now and he can probably forget about playing for the national team ever again.

Another example is Hulk, another Brazilian who is currently in Shanghai.

Chinese league is a total waste of time, I remember Oscar well. He was quite a good player with Chelsea. I kind of understand when players go to China in their mid to late 30’s to end their careers but it’s insane to go to play football in China in your 20’s.


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July 24, 2019, 08:11:46 AM
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There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
Some players don't seem to care about all of that. Maybe Bale is one of them, maybe not, time will tell.

Remember Oscar, the Brazilian who played for Chelsea? He was a good player and went to China at the age of 25-26. The only motivating factor for him was the money as he could have easily stayed in Europe and play for a top club. Nobody even talks about this guy now and he can probably forget about playing for the national team ever again.

Another example is Hulk, another Brazilian who is currently in Shanghai.
when this talented player towards China made his fame forgotten by the media and many people even the national team did not call him to play in my opinion if a star player chose to play in the Chinese league this made him lose his career as a professional player.
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July 24, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
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All of the newspaper speculations are just paid advertisements from an eye-popping attempt to sell it to someone.

I no longer believe in the newspaper, to be honest. A lot of bullshit transfer news keep popping out of nowhere. Even Robertson needed to tweet "rubbish story".

I'd rather wait for official news than speculate and reading the news every day.

Nabil Fekir for £25M is an absolute steal, a player Liverpool was heavily linked with for about 2 seasons, He's transfer was supposed to around £60 - £80M then, How come dropped total interest in him, maybe his injury struggles. This is probably the most quiet transfer for a top player in this window.

Either he got some deal-breaker injuries, or there are no other competitors that want to buy him while his previous club needs some money.

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July 24, 2019, 09:10:06 AM
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There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
Some players don't seem to care about all of that. Maybe Bale is one of them, maybe not, time will tell.

Remember Oscar, the Brazilian who played for Chelsea? He was a good player and went to China at the age of 25-26. The only motivating factor for him was the money as he could have easily stayed in Europe and play for a top club. Nobody even talks about this guy now and he can probably forget about playing for the national team ever again.

Another example is Hulk, another Brazilian who is currently in Shanghai.

Chinese league is a total waste of time, I remember Oscar well. He was quite a good player with Chelsea. I kind of understand when players go to China in their mid to late 30’s to end their careers but it’s insane to go to play football in China in your 20’s.


the impact of what he chose was that he was not called on by the Brazilian national team to defend his country. I don't know why the state did that but in my opinion, they thought Oscar had experienced a career decline.
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July 24, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
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If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.

They still need to seel more players, Even if they sell Bale for 100M they will go at -88.

Now if you add 150M for Pogba to it they will go to -238M €.

They need to sell more 3/4 big players to be even for the financial fair play



A small rumor about Juve-Pogba, during the deal for the DeLigt, Raiola talked with Juventus for another Pogback, The players seem to agree with it and Juventus will try to take him, the problem is to talk with the ManU.

I remember to you all that the contract with Pogba-ManU will expire in 23 months and after that, he can go for free.

Does ManU want really keep him against his will and lose 100+ million in less than 2 years?

Ed Woodward's prolly confident he can convince Pogba to stay.  He did it with DDG.

Anyway, just read some news about Newcastle ( yes been reading about them, still hopeful of the Arab group acquisition.  Lmao) that doesn't compute...  They broke their transfer record and acquired a striker from Germany...?  Wtf?

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July 24, 2019, 02:19:46 PM
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There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
Some players don't seem to care about all of that. Maybe Bale is one of them, maybe not, time will tell.

Remember Oscar, the Brazilian who played for Chelsea? He was a good player and went to China at the age of 25-26. The only motivating factor for him was the money as he could have easily stayed in Europe and play for a top club. Nobody even talks about this guy now and he can probably forget about playing for the national team ever again.

Another example is Hulk, another Brazilian who is currently in Shanghai.

Chinese league is a total waste of time, I remember Oscar well. He was quite a good player with Chelsea. I kind of understand when players go to China in their mid to late 30’s to end their careers but it’s insane to go to play football in China in your 20’s.



You are right here but today's players are different.
For many of them, most important things are earning, fun and enjoyable life.
No more fidelity to one club as Francesco Totti for Roma and sacrificing more profits because of loyalty and love to the club and fans Smiley


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July 24, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
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There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
Some players don't seem to care about all of that. Maybe Bale is one of them, maybe not, time will tell.

Remember Oscar, the Brazilian who played for Chelsea? He was a good player and went to China at the age of 25-26. The only motivating factor for him was the money as he could have easily stayed in Europe and play for a top club. Nobody even talks about this guy now and he can probably forget about playing for the national team ever again.

Another example is Hulk, another Brazilian who is currently in Shanghai.

Chinese league is a total waste of time, I remember Oscar well. He was quite a good player with Chelsea. I kind of understand when players go to China in their mid to late 30’s to end their careers but it’s insane to go to play football in China in your 20’s.



Oscar was a good player with Chelsea only the first season of joining the team.
From that season and then, he didn't seem to be the next talented player that would compete Ronaldo and Messi, or reach their levels of performance. Good for him that he got transferred in China and got a lot of money.
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July 25, 2019, 10:30:08 AM
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Oscar was a good player with Chelsea only the first season of joining the team.
From that season and then, he didn't seem to be the next talented player that would compete Ronaldo and Messi, or reach their levels of performance. Good for him that he got transferred in China and got a lot of money.

No current player in football is on the level Ronaldo & Messi have displayed over the last 10 years. The other top players are several levels below - Griezmann, Salah, Mane, Neymar. Maybe the heir to Ronaldo’s & Messi’s throne is Mbappe but he still has a lot to prove.

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July 25, 2019, 10:57:07 AM
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There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
Some players don't seem to care about all of that. Maybe Bale is one of them, maybe not, time will tell.

Remember Oscar, the Brazilian who played for Chelsea? He was a good player and went to China at the age of 25-26. The only motivating factor for him was the money as he could have easily stayed in Europe and play for a top club. Nobody even talks about this guy now and he can probably forget about playing for the national team ever again.

Another example is Hulk, another Brazilian who is currently in Shanghai.

Chinese league is a total waste of time, I remember Oscar well. He was quite a good player with Chelsea. I kind of understand when players go to China in their mid to late 30’s to end their careers but it’s insane to go to play football in China in your 20’s.



Oscar was a good player with Chelsea only the first season of joining the team.
From that season and then, he didn't seem to be the next talented player that would compete Ronaldo and Messi, or reach their levels of performance. Good for him that he got transferred in China and got a lot of money.

There’s no doubt about Oscars talent but he did choose easy money over fame, just because he had one bad season didn’t mean he had flopped. Bale is another star being linked to the Chinese League if he makes the move he’s expected to earn one million per week which is tempting for any player, but he’ll loose his global star status if he makes the move. Another transfer theory is that  Suning a Chinese club will buy him and immediately loan him back to Inter Milan, that will put him against Ronaldo and I wish this scenario does takes place.

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/07/22/gareth-bale-consider-china-offers-move-will-require-wages-1m/
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July 25, 2019, 11:17:26 AM
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No current player in football is on the level Ronaldo & Messi have displayed over the last 10 years. The other top players are several levels below - Griezmann, Salah, Mane, Neymar. Maybe the heir to Ronaldo’s & Messi’s throne is Mbappe but he still has a lot to prove.

Oddly enough, Salah was never considered as a star player before his time at Liverpool.

Mbappe is really fast and got good skill, and he's still very young. The others are already on 26-27 age so age-wise Mbappe definitely has a chance.

Bale is another star being linked to the Chinese League if he makes the move he’s expected to earn one million per week which is tempting for any player, but he’ll loose his global star status if he makes the move.

That's just pure insanity. 1 million a week. If he had a 1-year deal he'd got 52 million at least.

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I don’t see where Bale goes from here, Zidane seems to really dislike him. Real fans have never taken to him even though he’s been a massive part of their recent success. It depends what Bale wants, if he wants to stay in Europe he’ll probably have to take a big pay cut to go to another team.

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Rumous say that Cutrone (AC Milan) is close to signing with Wolverhampton for €18M. @coinlocket$, you got any info on this one?

Selling your best young talent for less than 20M is bad business, but you know what's worse? Buying Angel Correa, a player discarded from Atletico Madrid, for 50M, as some rumours are saying.

In other news, Dybala to Tottenham for €90M? https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham/paulo-dybala-to-tottenham-spurs-approach-juventus-over-move-that-would-break-their-transfer-record-a4197701.htm

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That's just pure insanity. 1 million a week. If he had a 1-year deal he'd got 52 million at least.

That is the level of money Messi and Ronaldo get and roughly double what Neymar gets. So it sounds about right. The Chinese have to offer money which Bale can't get anywhere else for any chance of transfer to be made. He is currently getting 0.6 million pounds per week so that is not even such a big increase.

Don't get me wrong, I think that all those transfer fees and wages have run out of control and we should have stricter salary caps but that is the situation at market and top players would be stupid if they didn't take advantage of that.

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July 25, 2019, 12:21:18 PM
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Yes, I also read a few articles mentioning that Dybala has asked to be transferred. Several clubs from England seem to be interested and Juventus would potentially accept offers in the €80-100 million region. During the pre-season friendlies Sarri is also playing last seasons 4-3-3 formation and Dybala doesn't fit the profile.   

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