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March 07, 2024, 08:37:12 AM
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Small rumor about next possible coach of Juvenuts.

Spalletti may overtake Allegri after Euro 2024, leaving the national team.
Really? If that's the case, Napoli will definitely feel hurt, especially for the players who were abandoned by Spalletti earlier this season. After having a good season by winning the Scudetto with Napoli, of course everyone understands Spalletti's decision, even if he wants to take a short break or explore a higher career, in this case becoming coach of the Italian national team. But what we will see very quickly if he finally chooses to manage Juventus.

I feel like this probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't experienced failure in managing the Italian national team at Euro 2024 and if Italy at least had a good record at Euro 2024, it's possible he would still survive. However, everything can change according to existing conditions and if Juventus gets his services as a replacement for Allegri that would be very good. It's time for Juventus to change coaches considering that Allegri has managed this Turin team for so long but there is nothing to be proud of other than winning the Scudetto. Moreover, this season they failed to compete with Inter for the Scudetto so next season is the right time for change.

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March 07, 2024, 08:40:00 AM
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You say that it is actually about Erik ten Hag, not about the will of the team itself, hmm. Yeah you are right I think. It is quite common to see a manager wishing to see skilled players of his own nationality at his team.
What other coaches come into your mind? I've never paid attention to managers other than Klopp or Pep, and they don't have any nationality preference when it comes to picking players. Are you sure it is not because of a language issue? I think Klopp is open about it, he says he prefers someone who can speak English or German so he has an easier team to convey his tactics. There is an outlier like Nunez, but having a translator probably helps in that regard, especially if the translator is your teammate.

I think he could be more successful in Bayern Munich. He could be an important name for Bayern in terms of technical career. The squad he has is better and he can take this squad even higher with a few touches. He has one match to play today to win the UEL cup. Their opponents are much weaker than them, but I am sure they will still play cautiously.
Better against what? Leverkusen? I don't know, judging from how many managers they sacked in the last few years despite their successful careers before they joined Bayern, I'd assume it is not as easy as "having better-skilled players means more trophies". I do agree that Xabi seems to have a better chance of controlling the squad due to his personality, but the odds are not that high if we look at Bayern's records. That being said, there are too many wild rumours related to his transfer, I wouldn't bet on anything unless we're 3 matches away from the end of this season or so.

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March 07, 2024, 09:02:47 AM
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This source of mine claims that Manchester United have sent their scouts to watch the 22-year-old Bologna striker Joshua Zirkzee.

He seems like a talented striker. He was really decent at Anderlecht but the previous season didn't went very productive for him. He didn't have a very long playing time here then though. Now he is getting more playing time and he is doing a good work as well. 10 goals and 4 goals in 26 games is not bad at all considering he is still young. But Manchester United already have a young striker like Hojlund who is talented too. Do they need another such player for the position now?  Sad
Joshua Zirkzee seems to be the target of Premier League clubs, not just Manchester United, even Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur are also interested in him, even clubs from the Italian league, AC Milan, are also interested. So it is natural for Manchester United to send someone to always supervise an eye on the striker so they can bring him in next summer. But the question isn't it depends on the agreement from the club and it depends on the offer from which club is more tempting and who agrees on the price first so that in the summer he won't be a bone of contention anymore, because if agreement has been reached and he just needs to decide which club he will choose. So if Manchester United are interested they shouldn't need to supervise but contact the club to make a deal.

Yes, he is indeed a talented striker but in my opinion he is not very productive at the moment but his abilities can still be honed well if he is willing to try to become a more productive striker in the future, so far he has created 10 goals and 3 assists if he continues to develop and continue practice by getting enough playing minutes. I think he will become a great striker in the future, especially if he is in a quite difficult league, this will be a new challenge for him.

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March 07, 2024, 09:21:19 AM
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Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1765387884935172163

It seems that the hunt to recruit Xabi Alonso is becoming more fierce because Bayern Munich is moving so quickly to secure the Leverkusen coach. They don't want to be left behind and at the same time want to prove that Liverpool will never be able to get their services. Even though Liverpool had moved first, that didn't make Bayern Munich just give up and wanted to immediately announce him as a replacement for Thomas Tuchel.

Usually what is being fought over is the striker or midfielder but not this time because the elite clubs are actually fighting for a coach and it is quite understandable seeing how Bayer Leverkusen is in the hands of Xabi Alonso so that the elite clubs see it as a certainty that there will be many titles to be won if Xabi Alonso is the coach.
But is it possible that he will choose Bayern Munich? because it might make Bayer fans not like him even though they have given the club a title (the season is not finished yet but Bayer becoming Bundesliga champions only needs a few wins to be sure)

As we know, Thomas Tuchel has had a bad season with Bayern Munich so far and even lost all the titles that Bayern Munich should have won. The only thing he can prove is that he can win the Champions League this season with Bayern Munich, but even if Bayern Munich ends up being eliminated, of course the owner will want to replace him sooner rather than having to wait for the season to end. But what is clear is that it will not be easy to convince Xabi Alonso to join him at the end of the season or even next season and seeing his achievements this season, of course he wants to continue with Leverkusen.

Thomas Tuchel will only be with Bayern Munich until the middle of this year and that was a mutual decision after seeing the poor results this season https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2024/02/fc-bayern-and-thomas-tuchel-to-end-their-working-relationship
so it seems that if Bayern succeed in getting Xabi Alonso he will only start his job at the beginning of next season but I agree it is not an easy decision for Xabi to accept offers from Bayern, even from any club, there will be a lot of consideration made to keep his coaching career brilliant.

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March 07, 2024, 09:52:47 AM
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Thomas Tuchel will only be with Bayern Munich until the middle of this year and that was a mutual decision after seeing the poor results this season https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2024/02/fc-bayern-and-thomas-tuchel-to-end-their-working-relationship
so it seems that if Bayern succeed in getting Xabi Alonso he will only start his job at the beginning of next season but I agree it is not an easy decision for Xabi to accept offers from Bayern, even from any club, there will be a lot of consideration made to keep his coaching career brilliant.
Expectations that were too high were initially expected by Munich when they first signed Tuchel as coach to replace Nagelsman in 2023, Munich's poor current performance is one of the causes of the possibility of Tuchel's sacking by Munich at the end of the season, both parties reportedly have agreed to end the cooperation if Tuchel fails to give Munich a trophy and reportedly Munich will now also reconsider Tuchel's fate if Indeed, it is able to win the Champions League trophy at the end of the season.

If Tuchel fails to get the Champions League trophy later then Tuchel journey with Munich will be the shortest and worst coaching journey of his career because he only coached one season without a title obtained, currently it is reported that Munich are targeting Xabi as Munich coach next season but so far we have not found certainty from both parties in talks,  Xabi achievements with Leverkusen are of course extraordinarily great, but if he later moves to Munich, will he be able to repeat his achievements later?
Because after all, coaching a big team certainly has a big responsibility and burden for a coach.

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March 07, 2024, 10:36:58 AM
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I’m not sure why Alonso would join Bayern. Nothing at that club is deemed as success unless it’s winning the CL. I mean he’s beating them in the Bundesliga with Leverkusen so what is the point in going there.

I have a vested interest obviously as I’d love him to take over from Klopp when the latter leaves in the summer. Surely taking over at Liverpool is far more prestigious than Bayern. It’s a harder job too, more of a challenge to battle against Guardiola in the PL. Maybe Alonso hasn’t got the balls to take on the PL and wants to stay in a farmers league. If that’s the case then maybe I don’t want him at LFC.

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March 07, 2024, 10:50:01 AM
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Small rumor about next possible coach of Juvenuts.

Spalletti may overtake Allegri after Euro 2024, leaving the national team.

Well it’s a strange rumor because Allegri is doing just fine at Juventus and I do not see any reason why Juventus might want to change him. Allegri has improved the poor Juventus side into a good team atleast and needs more signings and a new contract to make a bigger statement

There is nothing strange about this rumor since it has been very long since Allegri stayed at Juventus. The club has a reason to replace him. It must be replaced with a better coach who can deliver better results. Spalletti helped Napoli win serie a with the perfect result.

Officials seem to be upset with Allegri's result for this season. I do support the decision to sack him. Allegri will get double karma after he mocks Intermilan. The first thing he will not get scudetto and another one to be sacked by the club.

Juventus can play better as long as the club is able to recruit a better coach than him. Even though Allegri made the club qualify for the UCL, it does not change the fact that he was a flop.


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March 07, 2024, 11:13:25 AM
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There is a new update from Barcelona. It seems that the club has found a replacement for Xavi when he steps down as coach.

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The Spaniard announced he would be departing at the end of the season, leaving Barcelona to join the crowded market of clubs looking for a new manager. According to the Independent, Barca have targeted Sporting boss Amorim ahead of other candidates. He has been earmarked by the likes of Bayern Munich and Liverpool but second to coveted Bayer Leverkusen coach Xabi Alonso, who played as a midfielder for both clubs.
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/barcelona-ruben-amorim-replace-xavi-sporting-cp-liverpool-bayern-munich/blt82083a310807f7fa#cs37b84ce7ba7e1d92

I can't recall which club has been linked to Amorim. However, it appeared to me that there were also rumors linking him to Chelsea. Barcelona is ready now to join the race to get him from Sporting Lisbon. I personally disagree with such a decision if Barcelona will try to recruit him as a new appointment to replace Xavi.
Amorim is still doing pretty well in sporting lisbon, but he doesn't fit la Liga. Barcelona needs michel from girona. The club shall not do another gamble again which is only hurting the performance from the club and its finances. There are so many clubs targeting amorim now, but nothing concrete about which club that has made a direct contract to him.
I hope that he can join a big club, but it's not Barcelona. Xavi may also change his decision to step down as Barcelona coach.

Barcelona needs to find someone to replace him, and the club needs to ensure it does not lose the momentum to recruit a magnificent coach. There will be no other chance, but if Barcelona is willing to recruit him, it depends on him.
I think that people will also have different opinions regarding him joining Barcelona as a new appointment. Barcelona needs to find someone who has a cheap salary, too.

It's quite hard to determine which coach will go to the barcelona. .

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March 07, 2024, 11:19:24 AM
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I think they're looking for a substitute player because when Hojlund is absent, they're struggle to find the right player to replace Hojlund position. Both Rashford and Garnacho are great in their own respective positions.
We still have martial but even if MU has been forced to sign a new striker at the end of the season, why does united try to recruit a new youngstar? Recruiting guirassy is far better and he has cheaper price too. Another blunder from united.
I mean that would make sense if he managed to do well with them, after all if he is going to manage those players better than other players then it makes sense for him to get players that he likes. That's how a manager does his best, when he is connected with his players better.

A teams chemistry is not just between players, which would be better if all Dutch players played together, but also it's about the fact that we are talking about a team that does well based on managers chemistry with the team. But the problem is that while he does get the players he wants, he still doesn't show a sign of getting better, the team is still not that great. He has been quite terrible and I am 99% sure that he will be fired as soon as the last game of the season ends.

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Question:   Will Ten Hag be the guy to bring the glory days back to United?
Yes   - 43 (29.5%)
No   - 60 (41.1%)
No idea   - 43 (29.5%)
Total Voters: 146

Hey guys, you better update your poll and change Ten Hag to Ratcliffe, now that we know the poll was spot on  Grin

Anyway:

A teams chemistry is not just between players, which would be better if all Dutch players played together, but also it's about the fact that we are talking about a team that does well based on managers chemistry with the team. But the problem is that while he does get the players he wants, he still doesn't show a sign of getting better, the team is still not that great. He has been quite terrible and I am 99% sure that he will be fired as soon as the last game of the season ends.

Well we saw what happens when you try to make Man United full of Eredivisie players, now they play like them too. It really has nothing to do with "Dutch players", as this is not the Dutch NT.

Anyway, Ten Hag has terrible man management and that's why the youth prospects who could've broken into the first team have left elsewhere either on loan or permanently (Sancho, Elanga, etc etc).

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A teams chemistry is not just between players, which would be better if all Dutch players played together, but also it's about the fact that we are talking about a team that does well based on managers chemistry with the team. But the problem is that while he does get the players he wants, he still doesn't show a sign of getting better, the team is still not that great. He has been quite terrible and I am 99% sure that he will be fired as soon as the last game of the season ends.
I totally agree with you, getting players from the same country is not the only way to create chemistry within the team, there are many other ways and that's what a coach should have. But right now I see that Erik Ten Hag doesn't have any other way to build chemistry, I think that's one of Ten Hag's shortcomings. I understand that every coach has their own way, and they must also have criteria for the players they like. But don't let that make him forget other things that can also be done to build a good team.
If this is indeed a very effective way, why do we still see many national teams that do not have good chemistry, even though the players are citizens of the country? I'm not going to say Erik Ten Hag's way is the wrong way, but I mean it would be better if he was more open to everything and didn't just impose something that he believes in. I think coaches should have that kind of openness so that they don't make the team rigid, which is not good for the team.

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March 07, 2024, 11:46:51 AM
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If they actually want to get to Victor Osimhen, they will have to spend a lot of money.

And I agree with what they are saying in this article. Both Chelsea and Manchester United have spent a lot of money recently.
So even if they have the ability to spend a lot of money, they might not be able to follow the financial fair play rule.

You know a lot of clubs are actually ready to spend a lot of money for him. So it might be a problem for them.
But to mean the bigger question is that, is he actually willing to go to Chelsea or Manchester United?

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The football world is buzzing with excitement as top European clubs circle around Nigerian striker, Victor Osimhen, amid his stellar performances for Italian outfit Napoli.

The 23-year-old has caught the attention of footballing powerhouses, including Manchester United and Chelsea, who are eager to secure his services.
Source: https://www.afrik-foot.com/en-ng/osimhen-transfer-news-why-united-and-chelsea-might-miss-out-on-super-eagles-forward

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March 07, 2024, 12:00:56 PM
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I’m not sure why Alonso would join Bayern. Nothing at that club is deemed as success unless it’s winning the CL. I mean he’s beating them in the Bundesliga with Leverkusen so what is the point in going there.

I have a vested interest obviously as I’d love him to take over from Klopp when the latter leaves in the summer. Surely taking over at Liverpool is far more prestigious than Bayern. It’s a harder job too, more of a challenge to battle against Guardiola in the PL. Maybe Alonso hasn’t got the balls to take on the PL and wants to stay in a farmers league. If that’s the case then maybe I don’t want him at LFC.
I have the same viewed with you about Xabi Alonso's future better to be Liverpool manager than Bayern Munich, he was unbeaten until 33 matches all competition in Bundesliga and he know not really gap competitive between one team and the other team how easily Bundesliga got label as farmer league. I think right choose when accepting Liverpool offering for replacing Jurgen Klopp position and feel how excited and competitive with Premier League.
Have drastically difference atmosphere between Premier League and Bundesliga how to see with all teams can't defend the 100% winning ratio, difference with Bundesliga so far Bayern Leverkusen easily how to manage top position standings and Xabi Alonso can't get any defeated yet until reach 33 matches all competition.

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You say that it is actually about Erik ten Hag, not about the will of the team itself, hmm. Yeah you are right I think. It is quite common to see a manager wishing to see skilled players of his own nationality at his team.
The problem is that up until now he has been pushing himself too hard.
We can see how many players from the Netherlands or from the Eredivisie competition Ten Hag brought in but it didn't end with good results.
Werghorst, Van De Beek or maybe a player who came from the Dutch competition like Antony who had a special affinity with Ten Hag in the end did not go well until now.

We know that Dutch players or players from domestic competitions there sometimes have good games and that is a fact that cannot be separated from it, it just depends on coaching management and compatibility with a club as well in the end because after all in this case we must be aware that even if a very good player is brought by Manchester United but there is no match with the club or with other players forever it will not go well and in the end Ten Hag must know that so that what they do is just throwing money away without giving the results that are really worthy of the club.

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March 07, 2024, 12:24:42 PM
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Hopefully Klopp departure can be a lesson for Liverpool officials to pay attention to the team's needs and support the new coach efforts to maintain stable performance. Reflecting on Man United monotonous financial support, this club has lost its direction and style of play. One more thing, don't compare it to Chelsea because this club is financially supportive but the player options chosen are messy.
The chance for Liverpool to become a mediocre team is very high because no one is ready with the Liverpool's new era, few players even choose to leave if the other teams willing to buy out from Liverpool.

Manchester United is going to broke, they can't do anything except sell the team to the rich.

Chelsea is sadly managed by a stupid manager, if not they can use the money to buy all star players.
It's quite surprising to put Liverpool in the mediocre team category. Because as far as I know, that term is more suitable for a team that is bad enough that it has never even touched a trophy at all. So it is not right if Liverpool is called a mediocre team, there are many factors in its reputation and its existence in the EPL is no longer in doubt.

Agree to say that if Man United were owned by very rich people who were loyal to the club's interests, it would be better than now. The problem is that the 25% shares that Sir Jim got are still not enough, because Glazer does not intend to give them up completely.

Chelsea, as you said, are not properly managed and are wasting money by buying low quality players.

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March 07, 2024, 12:26:58 PM
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You know a lot of clubs are actually ready to spend a lot of money for him. So it might be a problem for them.
But to mean the bigger question is that, is he actually willing to go to Chelsea or Manchester United?
Chelsea or Manchester United? my answer is PSG. Tongue

Even both Chelsea and Manchester United afford to buy out Osimhen, but they need to pay his high salary too, so this is why I say PSG is more realistic. PSG can buy out him and able to pay high salary.

It just depend on Osimhen decision, will he want to play for career or play for money.

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March 07, 2024, 12:37:46 PM
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It seems that the hunt to recruit Xabi Alonso is becoming more fierce because Bayern Munich is moving so quickly to secure the Leverkusen coach. They don't want to be left behind and at the same time want to prove that Liverpool will never be able to get their services. Even though Liverpool had moved first, that didn't make Bayern Munich just give up and wanted to immediately announce him as a replacement for Thomas Tuchel.

According to some reports, Bayern Munich has more advantage in signing Xabi Alonso than Liverpool. There are also reports that Bayer Leverkusen has given the Spanish midfielder the green light to negotiate since there is a clause in his contract that permits that. We have not had any response from Xabi who has the ambition to win the Bundesliga the first time in the club's 120-year history and also lead his current club to the Champions League.

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As we know, Thomas Tuchel has had a bad season with Bayern Munich so far and even lost all the titles that Bayern Munich should have won. The only thing he can prove is that he can win the Champions League this season with Bayern Munich, but even if Bayern Munich ends up being eliminated, of course the owner will want to replace him sooner rather than having to wait for the season to end. But what is clear is that it will not be easy to convince Xabi Alonso to join him at the end of the season or even next season and seeing his achievements this season, of course, he wants to continue with Leverkusen.

Based on my evaluation Thomas Tuchel didn't have a bad season with Bayern Munich. They might be ten points below the league leader but there are still chances for them to recover lost ground. Even if they come second in the league that's not a bad performance. The club has also qualified for the Champions League quarter-finals which is a commendable feat. Maybe the club's management expected more from the German but his contribution fell short of their expectations.

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March 07, 2024, 01:13:53 PM
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You know a lot of clubs are actually ready to spend a lot of money for him. So it might be a problem for them.
But to mean the bigger question is that, is he actually willing to go to Chelsea or Manchester United?
Chelsea or Manchester United? my answer is PSG. Tongue

Even both Chelsea and Manchester United afford to buy out Osimhen, but they need to pay his high salary too, so this is why I say PSG is more realistic. PSG can buy out him and able to pay high salary.

It just depend on Osimhen decision, will he want to play for career or play for money.
Manchester United and PSG are more interested in signing Osimhen from Napoli, with PSG seemingly much more in need of a striker to complement Mbappe's transfer to either Real Madrid or unlikely Arsenal as rumours would have it.

Arsenal in the meantime will be keen on signing Barcelona's duo Raphinha and Ferran Torres. Barca are in need of financial support and wouldn't hesitate to sell off these and some of its players to aid its financial problems.
If they get to sign these players, I have strong doubt about Mbappe being signed to the gunners camp.

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March 07, 2024, 01:32:23 PM
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In my opinion, it is possible that Xabi Alonso will choose Bayern Munich if he wants to leave Leverkusen because the potential for achieving higher achievements is only joining Bayern Munich to gain history or new experiences for Xabi because Liverpool may not be too convincing for Xabi to achieve achievements in the league. champion.
The big question that remains is whether Xabi really wants to leave Leverkusen after all the success he has had?
We can also pay attention if later Leverkusen succeeds in winning the Bundesliga title and the UEL title, it is not a big achievement but a big goal is to get the champions league title so in my opinion Xabi will stay one more season with Leverkusen to try to get a bigger title in the champions league .
I would like to guess that Xabi will stay at Leverkusen at the end of the season.
Now as we are having Bayer Leverkusen as the titleholder for this season things are taking too much intention about the future of the Bayern Munich because they are feeling not good while any team stand against them in Bundesliga even we all know currently talking about this is surely not ideal because we are still having three months with 10 matches remaining in this season while mostly are trying to focus on their performance until end of this season, so I am surely we will have Xabi Alonso still here at Bayer Leverkusen for one more year because he is going to enter into new experience with them with winning the Bundesliga and entry into Champions League.

But as mentioned if Bayern Munich is surely going to steal this could be really setback for the Bayer Leverkusen which need more time from Xabi Alonso as they are underdevelopment and this can give them good quality and consistency which will help them in long run for the doing good against giant Bayern Munich.

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You know a lot of clubs are actually ready to spend a lot of money for him. So it might be a problem for them.
But to mean the bigger question is that, is he actually willing to go to Chelsea or Manchester United?
Chelsea or Manchester United? my answer is PSG. Tongue

Even both Chelsea and Manchester United afford to buy out Osimhen, but they need to pay his high salary too, so this is why I say PSG is more realistic. PSG can buy out him and able to pay high salary.

It just depend on Osimhen decision, will he want to play for career or play for money.
In my opinion, he should study and see about players who join Paris Saint Germain, indeed if we talk about money, Paris Saint Germain can pay him more than any other club. However, if we talk about career, I would not include Paris Saint Germain as a club that can make a player's career better. Let's see what happened to Mbappe after joining Paris Saint Germain. Indeed, he got many privileges, but he couldn't get anything special in his career, even though players would definitely want that.

Chelsea is not very good at the moment, so it is quite risky for Osimhen, Manchester United is also the same, but Manchester United is slightly better than Chelsea. If there is another club that is better and interested in him, I think he should consider that. The reason is that the situation of a club sometimes also influences a player's performance, unless the player can be at a very good level of stability, that might actually be what can take the club in an even better direction. But I haven't seen that from Osimhen.

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