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July 19, 2024, 07:02:38 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.

Zirkzee is an excellent signing, I would say a great signing, I saw his performances live on the pitch with my own eyes and to say that he is strong is an understatement considering his young age and his move to a big league he can really make a great championship while for the I won't comment on the other two because I've seen very little in the championships where they played but they certainly won't be bad
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July 19, 2024, 07:09:36 AM
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Manchester United have a long way to go next season, it’s been really a tough one for the Red Devils in the past decades but they’re gradually improving. Erik Ten Hag have to put down the necessary evidence that makes him a competitive competent coach in Old Trafford. He’s gathering the required players for next season, we believed him to be mapping out the solid sector of the big winning.

Manchester United are already doing some nice business already in this transfer window. I saw an update just now that they've agreed a personal agreement with Manuel Ugarte. It this is true then that's a positive news for United. They need a midfielder like that. Casemiro and Amrabat were underperforming last season and it would be a good thing to get a credible DM for next season.
They still have a long way to go because they need to reinforce a lot of the positions in their team, but I think they're doing a great job.
I don't have so much in Ten Hag, but with the right players he can be able to fight for the top 4. I don't think they can compete for the league, I don't think they have what it takes.
The INEOS are using the right strategy to recruit new players to join the squad. They’re looking at longevity and I think it’s a good one for the club as a whole. One thing to note is that INEOS have done their due diligence on targets already before no.Up to sales, Everything is mapped out. They’ve gotten a defender and a striker now, the defensive midfielder, Ugarte news will move quickly because they know what to do. Same goes for De Ligt if they want him. We hope that the new signings blend quickly with the old squad so they can perform better on the pitch.
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July 19, 2024, 07:17:57 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.

Leny Yoro I'd say was initially interested with the move to Real Madrid, for you to get such a player to Manchester United and not Real Madrid, you cannot go for the same figures presented by Real Madrid. In the nearest future, you'll look back and say that, he is really worth the buy, even at 18, I can vouch for him being better than Harry Maguire. Football has evolved and these are the modern day defenders that thrives. I'm not trying to defend the valuation placed on him, but he's a generational talent ansnis worth the buy.

Joshua Zirkzee has experience, you must have seen him one way or the other playing for Bayern Munich, but long time now. He isnot a bad player, not the type coming into Manchester United with so much expectations and hype. He'll keep a cool head and do a fantastic job. Having both Ruud Van Nistelrooy and Erik Ten Hag ( Both Dutch ) backing him would ne peng.

So many setbacks Erik Ten Hag faced last season because he didn't have a consistent backline who was fitand hundred percent. Great season ahead for the Dutchman.

I watched Savio from Girona, he is a great lad. Pep Guardiola really made the right call for him to be signed, in the next few months you'd be a fan. With his creativity, I do think he's worth the buy too.

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July 19, 2024, 07:29:07 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
If Man City chooses to buy a young player at such an amount, it won't bring much attention than when it is Man UTD that does it. We know how good Pep is and he'd surely turn the Brazilian winger into one of his very deadly machines and coupled with the fact thathes got pace and can play either wings and also he's versatile, I feel City will utilize his potentials well unlike the case for Man UTD.
 Yoro plied his trade at Lille as a defender. He's actually good at his job and can be either an aggressive one or a calm headed type, depending on the occasion and coupled with the fact that he's young and has enough energy to handle the job, I feel United will benefit a lot from him because they need such players but then again, we've known how the Red devils spend huge amounts on players and they end up not delivering as is expected or you find that they can't really settle well at the club.

 When Pep Guardiola makes his signings, not much is expected of him because we all know the players will fall into place like they've been at the club for a while, but when clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea and Man UTD make signings, eyes are usually on them because of the hype most of these players come with and when they don't meet up, more emphasis is placed on how much they were signed with.
I just hope Leny Yoro can fit in at the club and not find it hard to make his mark like the likes of Rasmus Hojlund, Mason Mount and even Kobbie Mainoo are finding it( even though they play in different wings).

 
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July 19, 2024, 07:47:15 AM
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Amadou Onana is very close to Aston Villa, and it will be done this weekend according to Sky Sports.
Klopp is not interested in taking England national team he just wants a break.
Atletico MArdid is trying for Alavarez but for me there is no chance that Manchester City will allow it.

Szczesny will not go to Al-Nassr's, where he will go?
As far as I remember, Amadou Onana was previously rumored to be close to Manchester United, but it seems the validity of this news was never confirmed. However, I think the choice of Aston Villa is not too bad because this team is in its growth period and since last season we have seen that Aston Villa is quite promising as a competitor in the big six. At least Amadou Onana will experience the big Champions League competition with Aston Villa and that will add to his experience apart from the EPL.

As for Kloop, I don't think he will want to take a job in the near future because his previous job at Liverpool was so burdensome for him and it might take a year or two to see him return to coaching. Whether it's the national team or a club, I think it's the same as long as the passion returns.

There was information yesterday about Alvarez and I think it's actually the right choice while the striker position is vacant at Atletico. Besides, Alvarez has no other desire than to increase his playing minutes and I think if Manchester City continues to hold him back it will make him lose even more quality because he is rarely played.

Szczesny will likely go to MLS if that is possible because quite a lot of players have arrived there this summer such as Giroud and Marco Reus.
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July 19, 2024, 07:53:28 AM
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There are many coaches in the world who can work in England and they are not working in any team. Maye Klopp could start working there but he said he is tired and he need some rest which means he is out. Tuchel has not had a good performance recently and some other coaches like Pochettino and Potter can have more chances to start working in England as the next coach.
I think Pochettino can be the best option they can have because he had a good performance at Chelsea.
Southgate failed to bring England to be the champion for the second time and it was very painful because they reached the final with a lot of struggle. From what I saw England did not have a dangerous striker and Harry Kane did not show the class as one of the deadly strikers. After the competition ended, Southgate resigned as coach and I don't know the exact reason but what I saw was because he always failed to give his best for England.

Of the three names you mentioned, I am more interested in Jurgen Klopp than Tuchel or Pochettino. But for Jurgen Klopp, it might take time to convince himself after leaving Liverpool. Preparation after preparation must be done so that England can prepare some new strengths for the future.
I see a very mature decision made by Southgate to leave his role as coach of the England national team, looking at his statistics in dealing with England, there is nothing satisfactory with the brilliant players that England has, but Southgate is not able to give his best and this is a wise decision he made for the national team England is improving under the new head coach.
Currently there are many names that England is considering to bring a new name to its training bench and the closest is Potter and he is also of British nationality but considering that he is not a suitable name, in my personal opinion England has the opportunity to bring Guardiola to manage the England national team because he is has proven that he can handle teams with big names and I think Guardiola is the most suitable to fill the England coaching bench.

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July 19, 2024, 08:03:20 AM
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There are many coaches in the world who can work in England and they are not working in any team. Maye Klopp could start working there but he said he is tired and he need some rest which means he is out. Tuchel has not had a good performance recently and some other coaches like Pochettino and Potter can have more chances to start working in England as the next coach.
I think Pochettino can be the best option they can have because he had a good performance at Chelsea.
Southgate failed to bring England to be the champion for the second time and it was very painful because they reached the final with a lot of struggle. From what I saw England did not have a dangerous striker and Harry Kane did not show the class as one of the deadly strikers. After the competition ended, Southgate resigned as coach and I don't know the exact reason but what I saw was because he always failed to give his best for England.

Of the three names you mentioned, I am more interested in Jurgen Klopp than Tuchel or Pochettino. But for Jurgen Klopp, it might take time to convince himself after leaving Liverpool. Preparation after preparation must be done so that England can prepare some new strengths for the future.
Southgate should have done that because he has failed and in my opinion there is nothing missing from the England squad, they have everything but Southgate has not succeeded in making this team even better.
And overall, I think England's failure to win the Euro title is appropriate, their performance has been very bad since the start of the Euro tournament, they were just a little lucky to reach the final.

Now it's not just these 3 names but there are also several other names that are being rumored, but in my opinion, finding a coach who excels when coaching a team and has never coached a national team will be quite difficult to recruit.
In my own opinion, Garry Southgate is actually a disappointment of a manager, he is no different from graham potter, just clueless, this immediate past uefa euros should have been their moment if Garry Southgate was a competent coach, am saying this because if you look at this English team, they have it all in their arsenal to win this trophy, though they were quite lucky in terms of their journey to the finals, but they were let down by the decision making of Garry Southgate.

If you look at the performance of foden and harry Kane from the group stage to the semi final, they weren't doing well, and they should have been replaced by cole palmer and Watkins in the starting line up, but the clueless manager left them in the field of play, which made the Spanish team to have more joy to do more damage to them, ok let's look at foden's performance from the group stage to the finals, no assist, no goal, no major impact, he should have been replaced since by cole palmer, but the manager left him on the bench for long, and to be frank, that's what cost them that trophy.











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July 19, 2024, 08:12:11 AM
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I see a very mature decision made by Southgate to leave his role as coach of the England national team, looking at his statistics in dealing with England, there is nothing satisfactory with the brilliant players that England has, but Southgate is not able to give his best and this is a wise decision he made for the national team England is improving under the new head coach.
Currently there are many names that England is considering to bring a new name to its training bench and the closest is Potter and he is also of British nationality but considering that he is not a suitable name, in my personal opinion England has the opportunity to bring Guardiola to manage the England national team because he is has proven that he can handle teams with big names and I think Guardiola is the most suitable to fill the England coaching bench.
There is no other choice for Southgate, he has been coaching England for a long time but there is no better progress so he has to make that decision, I think this decision is good for both of them, good for Southgate's career and will also be good for the England national team for the future front.

Now there are several coaches being rumored and Guardiola is even the main target to be able to handle the English team, but I think it will be difficult because so far Pep Guardiola has never been a national team coach.
However, with the squad that England currently has, especially the many potential young players they have, I am optimistic enough about the attractiveness of becoming a top coach to want to accept this job.

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July 19, 2024, 08:17:18 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
I was also quite surprised by the price that was used as a dowry to buy the two players and I think it sounds excessive from any angle.

I also don't really know how the potential is and maybe Manchester United have an interest in the two players to dare to take a very high dowry, yes we also understand that Manchester United's defense is not good so it might be a long investment for them to compete much better in the league. but still I also feel it is too expensive if based on qualifications.

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July 19, 2024, 08:23:00 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
The transfer market is really crazy now it even seem now like younger players are even worth more nowadays because alot of teams are now looking to sign young talent even before they develop fully i am not sure the reason why United have opt for young players but Chelsea have clearly stated they want to build a project of young players and so they are more focused on signing young talents.

Spending 100 million on 2 young players that may probably end up sitting on the bench all season is not ideal for Manchester United in my opinion, what they need are players that will have immediate impact on the team because they lack good players. These youngsters are clearly not the solution and i also think they are overpriced, with the nature of Premier League football will these youngsters find it easy to adapt?

 
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July 19, 2024, 08:58:20 AM
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I also don't really know how the potential is and maybe Manchester United have an interest in the two players to dare to take a very high dowry, yes we also understand that Manchester United's defense is not good so it might be a long investment for them to compete much better in the league. but still I also feel it is too expensive if based on qualifications.


Of course, actually than Yoro De Light is more experienced, the price is also unlikely to be too expensive. At the age of 24 he still has a long period of service. But it seems that De Light will find it difficult to go to Man United because of the arrival of Yoro, their money seems to be limited. Man United is also interested in Branthwaite. The Everton player was offered £50 million but was rejected. With the current conditions, it is certainly difficult, because Man United also seems to need a left-back.

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July 19, 2024, 09:07:04 AM
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Source : Mason Greenwood signs in as new Olympique Marseille number

This is really crazy, Man Utd really let go of Mason Greenwood?
Hey, he's still young and actually he has good talent as a right winger.
Meanwhile, Man Utd chose to get new players who are younger than developing the talent that Mason Greenwood has.

What is Erik Ten Hag planning?
I think Marseille were lucky to get such a young player for around 30 million and Mason could become a highly valued player with his new club.

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I see a very mature decision made by Southgate to leave his role as coach of the England national team, looking at his statistics in dealing with England, there is nothing satisfactory with the brilliant players that England has, but Southgate is not able to give his best and this is a wise decision he made for the national team England is improving under the new head coach.
Currently there are many names that England is considering to bring a new name to its training bench and the closest is Potter and he is also of British nationality but considering that he is not a suitable name, in my personal opinion England has the opportunity to bring Guardiola to manage the England national team because he is has proven that he can handle teams with big names and I think Guardiola is the most suitable to fill the England coaching bench.
There is no other choice for Southgate, he has been coaching England for a long time but there is no better progress so he has to make that decision, I think this decision is good for both of them, good for Southgate's career and will also be good for the England national team for the future front.

Now there are several coaches being rumored and Guardiola is even the main target to be able to handle the English team, but I think it will be difficult because so far Pep Guardiola has never been a national team coach.
However, with the squad that England currently has, especially the many potential young players they have, I am optimistic enough about the attractiveness of becoming a top coach to want to accept this job.

A good decision but he should have done it sooner because I don't see anything positive coming out from him ever since they lost to Italy in the finals back then in 2020. He has every fire power but utilizing it is a big problem, not that he's confused on who to start or invite but getting all the players to join the squad at once and we know there are some players who doesn't deserve to be called up so the weakness and poor performance of England is all on Southgate, I think is a very late decision making. If Pep Guardiola had to coach England it means they have to wait for his stay at Etihad expires and the 3 Lions only have to do with a caretaker coach till Pep is free from coaching City.
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.

This is really the era of young talents in football first of all. Teams don't hesitate to spend lots of money on such players. However in my opinion, 62 million euros for Leny Yoro is just too much, isn't it?  Huh

And yeah maybe if Real Madrid wasn't also interested then the Red Devils might have signed him for a more reasonable price. This really helped Lille make more money from this transfer.  Smiley  I'm curious about especially one thing now. Will the Red Devils still sign de Ligt as well?

Because they had better be ready to spend at least a similar sum to sign him too. Bayern Munich wouldn't like to let one of their most important defenders go for a cheap price.

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July 19, 2024, 09:47:04 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
The purchase of Leny Yoro for me is right because Manchester United have a weakness in the center-back position. The presence of Yoro will be an option for Erik ten Hag to make him a good tandem with Martinez. Mertinez last season was often injured, if the situation repeats in the 2024/2025 season, Yoro will be the main choice with Evans or Maguire.

Leny Yoro is still 18 years old, with a rather high transfer fee but he could be a future project for Manchester United although he will have difficulties that make him have to compete if ten Hag does not give him a main position. But if you look back at last season, it looks like Yoro will be Erik ten Hag's first choice.

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July 19, 2024, 10:19:29 AM
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I see a very mature decision made by Southgate to leave his role as coach of the England national team, looking at his statistics in dealing with England, there is nothing satisfactory with the brilliant players that England has, but Southgate is not able to give his best and this is a wise decision he made for the national team England is improving under the new head coach.
Currently there are many names that England is considering to bring a new name to its training bench and the closest is Potter and he is also of British nationality but considering that he is not a suitable name, in my personal opinion England has the opportunity to bring Guardiola to manage the England national team because he is has proven that he can handle teams with big names and I think Guardiola is the most suitable to fill the England coaching bench.
There is no other choice for Southgate, he has been coaching England for a long time but there is no better progress so he has to make that decision, I think this decision is good for both of them, good for Southgate's career and will also be good for the England national team for the future front.

Now there are several coaches being rumored and Guardiola is even the main target to be able to handle the English team, but I think it will be difficult because so far Pep Guardiola has never been a national team coach.
However, with the squad that England currently has, especially the many potential young players they have, I am optimistic enough about the attractiveness of becoming a top coach to want to accept this job.
If we talking about England this team was never lack of talented players and every generations this team always be produce plenty of young talented players but England have one big problem that they have had for decades that everytime playing at big tournaments such as world cup or Euro cup England was never able to performing well and it proven from their achievement because last time England gets the trophy from major competition on world cup 1966 but since that year England always be failed to gets the trophies

If the benchmark is a trophy obviously Southgate was failed because although he can bringing England to advances to the final matches of Euro Cup two times in a row but in fact until now England still no trophies under him but if we see from the statistics obviously England under Southgate is very impressive because when train this team Southgate can bringing England to gets runner up of Euro Cup 2 times and semifinal of world cup and England too can gets 3rd place of Nation League on 2019

I have discuss about this before because seems Guardiola is the strongest candidate to be the manager of England even England has willing to wait until Guardiola contract expired with Manchester City but besides Guardiola i found at least 4 candidates such as Eddie Howe, Maurico Pochettino, Graham Potter and the latest is Thomas Tuchel

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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
But in the current transfer market seeing big clubs buying young players is no longer a rare thing. Chelsea is even far ahead in bringing in young players among clubs in the Premier League. And Chelsea has been doing it since last season and the result is that Chelsea has indeed discovered an extraordinary talent like Palmer. And in this transfer market Chelsea also brought in more and much younger players. And I wouldn't be surprised if Man United and Man City did it too. But yeah, relying on young players in the back line doesn't look good. But if it works then Man United will have a player for the long term. Now all teams seem to be starting to prioritize team building for the long term. Maybe this was inspired by Barcelona and Real Madrid who were also successful last season in bringing out their young players. Like Arda Guler and Lamine Yamal. And in the coming season I think there will be more young players starting to have a stage in European football.

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July 19, 2024, 10:55:46 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.
A little unfamiliar with the two players but so at a high price maybe the two players have previous quality in the club first then Man United dared to pay dearly even though it was a young player that the club dared to spend to recruit Leny Yoro.
No wonder if there are skeptics why easy players are already expensive, maybe Erik Ten Hag already knows how the player I will not blame him if he plays well.
I want to see how Leny Yoro and Zirkzee perform with Man United and how Erik Ten Hag puts these players right at the club with his formation.

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July 19, 2024, 11:01:19 AM
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Ten Hag efforts will determine the direction of Manchester United next season, he must learn from his failure last season which made it difficult for Manchester United to compete in the EPL. Manchester United statistics last season were far from perfect, their defense line was very chaotic which made it very easy for the opposing team to break into their goal. Ten Hag also needs to bring in quality strikers so that the illnesses experienced by his team last season can be cured.

Manchester United's front line was very blunt, they had difficulty scoring goals even though they were facing a weak team. Ten Hag must choose the right players to fill any gaps in his squad, defense is a priority, he also needs to bring in a new striker to add sharpness to Manchester United's front line.

And look now, Ten Hag has brought in several players, recently Yoro was brought in at a fairly expensive price. So so far there have been no surprising player transfers from Ten Hag selection. Their finances are limited and adding a striker is not necessarily ideal when Erik Ten Hag selection of players is still below standard. I'm not sure about Manchester United fate next season, whether it will improve the situation or remain stagnant. This is no longer about adding players but about the quality of coaches.

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July 19, 2024, 11:12:19 AM
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I read news about Manchester United buying 18-year old Leny Yoro from Lille for 62 million euro and Joshua Zirkzee from Bologna for 42 million euro. I haven't heard anything about these two players. All I see is that they are both young and overpriced. Yoro is a defender and United desperately better defenders, but an 18 year old defender probably won't do the job at stabilizing the defense. Maybe Ten Hag knows what he's doing, but I'm kinda skeptical.
Manchester City bought a 20 year old Brazilian player from Girona for 35 million. The transfer market is crazy. Paying tens of millions for young players is a madness.

Nowadays the clubs pay very crazy sums and I really wonder to what extent this can be justified economically? In the end, the bubble will explode here like back then with the Immo bubble, this time just the player bubble.

Zirkzee played at FC Bayern Munich, from there I know him but 42 million he is never worth to me.

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