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October 08, 2025, 08:28:31 AM
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Neymar is still quite good at his young age, but Yamal reminds me of Ansu Fati, who was highly touted at Barcelona and even dubbed the next Messi. Seeing Yamal in this era will be quite challenging, as he actively showcases himself on social media, and fan demands influence his personality and lifestyle. The more famous he is, the greater the challenges in his football career.
Neymar was great until he was injured, after that famous injury he never recovered and kept getting more and more injured and just went to obscurity. We should be considering how this could be the problem with what we are seeing him here. The problem is that we are talking about a deal where it won't be that great for anyone.

If we are dealing about Neymar, Yamal and Fati as a trio, I would say that Yamal will end up with being in the middle of it. I do not think that he will reach peak of Neymar, prime Neymar will be better than Prime Yamal, but Prime Yamal will be better than Prime Fati who never became that good. Yamal will end up with great results for the long term and if he can beat Neymar, that has to be on longevity.

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October 08, 2025, 09:02:23 AM
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Neymar is still quite good at his young age, but Yamal reminds me of Ansu Fati, who was highly touted at Barcelona and even dubbed the next Messi. Seeing Yamal in this era will be quite challenging, as he actively showcases himself on social media, and fan demands influence his personality and lifestyle. The more famous he is, the greater the challenges in his football career.
Yamal's success is in his hands, he just needs to stay fit and injury free that's the only way he can reach great heights. The social media lifestyle will be a distraction to him but only him can manage himself properly.

With the way his been at the club before this loan move, his market value reduced a lot and I think the reason why Trabzonspor is looking to finalise a deal sooner rather than later is so that his market value doesn't increase and Manchester United will start asking for higher fees. We all know that market value is mainly tied to how inform a player is. Once you're going out of form that's how the market value decreases and vice versa.
When I first saw the details of Onana's deal with Trabzonspor, I knew United wanted to give him an opportunity to shine so they could sell him at a better price, and that's exactly what is happening. Trabzonspor are trying to be smart, but no matter what they do, they will still pay more than what they should. Onana is already doing well, and United is going to hold on to that and ask for more money.
I doubt if there would be much changes in his value no matter his form because of his Age. He is 29 years old already so that age will not make him gain value as he should.
You're not wrong Manchester United are probably looking for a way to dispose him and even with this tactics they employed I don't think they can make as much as they bought him. They should  just accept whatever amount they can make from his sale and accept the loss and move on. Trabzonspor should just try and finalize his deal he will be useful for them.

 
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October 08, 2025, 09:03:10 AM
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Neymar was great until he was injured, after that famous injury he never recovered and kept getting more and more injured and just went to obscurity. We should be considering how this could be the problem with what we are seeing him here. The problem is that we are talking about a deal where it won't be that great for anyone.

If we are dealing about Neymar, Yamal and Fati as a trio, I would say that Yamal will end up with being in the middle of it. I do not think that he will reach peak of Neymar, prime Neymar will be better than Prime Yamal, but Prime Yamal will be better than Prime Fati who never became that good. Yamal will end up with great results for the long term and if he can beat Neymar, that has to be on longevity.

An injury can break any player because afterward, you start to fear it might happen again and you'll play more carefully. Anyone who's had an injury that required a long recovery knows what I'm talking about. Neymar too hasn't played for a long time due to injury, and even though he's not that old now, only 33 you haven't heard anything about him. I don't think it's worth comparing these players one's career is coming to an end, the other's is just beginning. The most important thing is that Yamal doesn't become spoiled by big money, then he'll be able to build a successful career.

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October 08, 2025, 09:05:09 AM
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Focusing solely on injuries for Neymar's decline ignores crucial factors. His trajectory change began after the Paris move, where discipline, lifestyle, and a lack of consistent top-level competitive environment were as damaging as any physical injury.


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October 08, 2025, 09:31:30 AM
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Perhaps the biggest misfortune in football is that Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo played in the same era. I think everyone agrees that both players are two of the best in the world of football to date. Having these two players play in the same era meant their individual achievements were divided. Of course, it also brought about a fierce rivalry, which was enjoyable to watch. However, if one of these two players had played in a different era, the other would likely have won more than 10 Balon d'Ors.

No. This rivalry is completely fictitious. Messi is FIFA's son and a PR product, to which all the achievements of the Spanish national team's golden generation were sacrificed. That's why in 20 years everyone will remember Ronaldo and Messi, while Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Puyol, and others are already forgotten. Ronaldo is a self-made man and a role model, FIFA and their products are corruption and dirt that is best left alone.

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October 08, 2025, 09:37:31 AM
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Perhaps the biggest misfortune in football is that Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo played in the same era. I think everyone agrees that both players are two of the best in the world of football to date. Having these two players play in the same era meant their individual achievements were divided. Of course, it also brought about a fierce rivalry, which was enjoyable to watch. However, if one of these two players had played in a different era, the other would likely have won more than 10 Balon d'Ors.

No. This rivalry is completely fictitious. Messi is FIFA's son and a PR product, to which all the achievements of the Spanish national team's golden generation were sacrificed. That's why in 20 years everyone will remember Ronaldo and Messi, while Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Puyol, and others are already forgotten. Ronaldo is a self-made man and a role model, FIFA and their products are corruption and dirt that is best left alone.
Messi is lucky to be loved by FIFA which was why he achieved more than Ronaldo, but there's where Ronaldo is a king to Messi. This shows that these two players have their own special qualities in them despite that they reign at the same time. Ronaldo is the world highest goal scorer in the history of football and I am happy for that because the fun in football is all about scoring goals.

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October 08, 2025, 11:10:02 AM
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If we are dealing about Neymar, Yamal and Fati as a trio, I would say that Yamal will end up with being in the middle of it. I do not think that he will reach peak of Neymar, prime Neymar will be better than Prime Yamal, but Prime Yamal will be better than Prime Fati who never became that good. Yamal will end up with great results for the long term and if he can beat Neymar, that has to be on longevity.
What's the standard you're using to judge that? I feel like whenever people mention "prime," it is too ambiguous to make a meaningful judgment, especially on someone who never actually makes it big like Fati (at least not at the moment).

Anyway, I do think that footballers need to stay away from social media or any toxic circle in general. If they need to manage it for marketing purposes, they can hire someone to post and manage their accounts. The internet isn't a good place for someone who's still developing, especially in the limelight.

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October 08, 2025, 11:11:25 AM
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Yea, such discussion with the player is mostly important too, because he is the point of reference, if he really wants to stay, then the club can push for a permanent deal with the parent club(Manchester United). But I think Onana would want to sta, at least for his sanity and peace of mind, yea. Naturally, people tend to be comfortable where they are valued, and I think it's gearing towards that for this at Trabzonspor, because somehow, Onana is doing his best to overturn his bad spale at Manchester.

But then again, this leaves me with no other option than to ask the main or big question,,,  what is or was the problem at Manchester United? Why the poor performance, or let me rather put it this way,, why was Onana tagged the PROBLEM at Manchester considering his past performances in former clubs??? Because I can't explain or rap my fingers cross it,, that a world class goalkeeper like Onana would be regarded as a floop at Manchester United, but few moments in another club, he is adjusting to been normal.

Was it really Onana that was the problem or it was something about United??
It's the same way the fans always pick out a particular player to blame for the woes of their club. Over the years, we have seen players and coaches been called out as the problem of Manchester United and when this so called problems eventually leaves, you still find out the problem is still there or in some cases still worse. I still remember that Ronaldo was even tagged a problem by some section of the fans, media outlets and some journalists, it even became worse after that his interview with Pierce Morgan. Most people don't like the truth and that's why again they lashed out on him for saying what he said about Manchester United and today those same fans have seen the reality in what he said. They said Onana was the problem and his no more there again but the problem is still there. For me, I think the clubs problem is internal, it has it's problem from the top hierarchy.

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October 08, 2025, 12:19:09 PM
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If we are dealing about Neymar, Yamal and Fati as a trio, I would say that Yamal will end up with being in the middle of it. I do not think that he will reach peak of Neymar, prime Neymar will be better than Prime Yamal, but Prime Yamal will be better than Prime Fati who never became that good. Yamal will end up with great results for the long term and if he can beat Neymar, that has to be on longevity.
What's the standard you're using to judge that? I feel like whenever people mention "prime," it is too ambiguous to make a meaningful judgment, especially on someone who never actually makes it big like Fati (at least not at the moment).

Anyway, I do think that footballers need to stay away from social media or any toxic circle in general. If they need to manage it for marketing purposes, they can hire someone to post and manage their accounts. The internet isn't a good place for someone who's still developing, especially in the limelight.
There needs to be a dedicated team or oversight to ensure football players don't overuse social media. As professional figures, this is crucial to maintaining their reputation and career. Every player has the right to use social media, but it's crucial to be cautious, especially with fans whose every word or action they post can elicit varying judgments.

Yamal has a rather interesting family background, which I don't need to elaborate on. However as a young rising professional footballer, he needs to be properly guided by those close to him who understand the importance of his career in the world of football.

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October 08, 2025, 01:49:45 PM
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Mentality and attitude is what keep players moving, and I sense that Yamal have that mentality of growing above his age mates on football that is why at his age, he has been achieving a lot of personal trophies and recognition as a young player, but the coach needs to manage and maintain him because we have seen a lot of young players whose dream has been killed by overzealous management as they use to give them too much playing time without enough rest, and when injury start to deal with such young players, it will just end their career because once they stayed long without playing football, people will forget about them and other players will come to replace them.

Player’s lifestyle and restless behavior is also a key factor to hunt their career down, but it can all be managed especially if the player is young and do take advices, but injury can’t be controlled.
Players will end up with getting great results as long as people just leave them be. Yamal has been getting bad attention from media due to his character and his partying and all that, but when we are talking about his style and playing, so it is not really getting too much of a situation that focuses on that much.

If we are dealing with something on the field then Yamal is doing great, so it is not really that confusing. It's obvious that media is making it a bad thing right now because they want to see heroes fall, that's a news worthy thing, but as long as Yamal keeps being great on the field then nothing will happen to him and he will do fine. We should be realizing how things are getting much better situation for him if he keeps playing great.
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October 08, 2025, 02:24:49 PM
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Non fans might not see what James Tarkowski the club captain brings into this side but the management and fans are in support of a long-term contract for the next two seasons. He's been top ever since he joined from Burnley and has helped them climb up the league standing. I will be rooting for them nevertheless when they go on to face Manchester City immediately after the international break.  Finally, Congratulations to him.

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October 08, 2025, 03:17:12 PM
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Non fans might not see what James Tarkowski the club captain brings into this side but the management and fans are in support of a long-term contract for the next two seasons. He's been top ever since he joined from Burnley and has helped them climb up the league standing. I will be rooting for them nevertheless when they go on to face Manchester City immediately after the international break.  Finally, Congratulations to him.
He wasted his career when he was in Burnley, he choose to stay even though Burnley relegated to Championship. If he willing to leave his comfortable zone to play at England, he could be a good defender. His performance is good and consistent, we can see that on Everton. But, he's already 32 years old, almost no top teams want to hire him. Probably he can still move to Serie A or Super Lig.

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October 08, 2025, 03:17:22 PM
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Messi is lucky to be loved by FIFA which was why he achieved more than Ronaldo, but there's where Ronaldo is a king to Messi. This shows that these two players have their own special qualities in them despite that they reign at the same time. Ronaldo is the world highest goal scorer in the history of football and I am happy for that because the fun in football is all about scoring goals.

I really don't agree with you that Messi is lucky to be loved by FIFA and that's why he achieved more than Ronaldo in football,  because I think he deserved all that he has achieved in football and let's not put it on being lucky that his loved by FIFA. That's on Messi.
To be sincere I really don't like when people compare this players, because I feel they are both great players and we are lucky to watch them in our time. I am opportune to have watch them from the beginning of their career and I will definitely see the end and I have enjoyed them both and I hate to choose sides when it comes to these players. I think we should just enjoy them rather than comparing them, because we might not see their kinds again.

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October 08, 2025, 03:17:40 PM
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Non fans might not see what James Tarkowski the club captain brings into this side but the management and fans are in support of a long-term contract for the next two seasons. He's been top ever since he joined from Burnley and has helped them climb up the league standing. I will be rooting for them nevertheless when they go on to face Manchester City immediately after the international break.  Finally, Congratulations to him.
Well deserved! Tarkowski has been consistent and rarely absence due to the injury. I know he's not as good as before, but hope he regains his form back. Extending him for two years more is a good business by Everton. They did it right.

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October 08, 2025, 03:28:43 PM
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Neymar was great until he was injured, after that famous injury he never recovered and kept getting more and more injured and just went to obscurity. We should be considering how this could be the problem with what we are seeing him here. The problem is that we are talking about a deal where it won't be that great for anyone.

If we are dealing about Neymar, Yamal and Fati as a trio, I would say that Yamal will end up with being in the middle of it. I do not think that he will reach peak of Neymar, prime Neymar will be better than Prime Yamal, but Prime Yamal will be better than Prime Fati who never became that good. Yamal will end up with great results for the long term and if he can beat Neymar, that has to be on longevity.

An injury can break any player because afterward, you start to fear it might happen again and you'll play more carefully. Anyone who's had an injury that required a long recovery knows what I'm talking about. Neymar too hasn't played for a long time due to injury, and even though he's not that old now, only 33 you haven't heard anything about him. I don't think it's worth comparing these players one's career is coming to an end, the other's is just beginning. The most important thing is that Yamal doesn't become spoiled by big money, then he'll be able to build a successful career.
Injuries can be of a tremendous set back towards a player's career especially for those severe injuries that has to take the player off the field for months, it affects their confidence when they return into active game as there's this psychological attachment to the scenario that led to their suffering of the injury and they fear they could go back if they try to be intense with the game as before. An instance is that of Rodri from Manchester city, the former Ballon d'Or winner in 2024, on returning from his long time of injury his performance has really depreciation and that's exactly what severe and long time injuries can do to a player form.


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October 08, 2025, 03:31:52 PM
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If we are dealing about Neymar, Yamal and Fati as a trio, I would say that Yamal will end up with being in the middle of it. I do not think that he will reach peak of Neymar, prime Neymar will be better than Prime Yamal, but Prime Yamal will be better than Prime Fati who never became that good. Yamal will end up with great results for the long term and if he can beat Neymar, that has to be on longevity.
What's the standard you're using to judge that? I feel like whenever people mention "prime," it is too ambiguous to make a meaningful judgment, especially on someone who never actually makes it big like Fati (at least not at the moment).

Anyway, I do think that footballers need to stay away from social media or any toxic circle in general. If they need to manage it for marketing purposes, they can hire someone to post and manage their accounts. The internet isn't a good place for someone who's still developing, especially in the limelight.
When it comes to these three players, in terms of assessment, it will ultimately be somewhat uneven, especially for Fati, who we know is a young player full of potential, but whose career was quickly ruined by bad luck and injuries.

As for Neymar and Lamine, I believe they share similar traits, but when it comes to social behavior and attitude, Lamine Yamal is far more uncontrolled, and this could become a problem if left unchecked.
I think we all know that in terms of performance on the field, he plays exceptionally well. However, his poor attitude off the field, especially his reckless social behavior, could truly backfire in the future if he continues to operate under the same conditions.
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I really don't agree with you that Messi is lucky to be loved by FIFA and that's why he achieved more than Ronaldo in football,  because I think he deserved all that he has achieved in football and let's not put it on being lucky that his loved by FIFA. That's on Messi.
To be sincere I really don't like when people compare this players, because I feel they are both great players and we are lucky to watch them in our time. I am opportune to have watch them from the beginning of their career and I will definitely see the end and I have enjoyed them both and I hate to choose sides when it comes to these players. I think we should just enjoy them rather than comparing them, because we might not see their kinds again.
In as much as we enjoy matching them play, the fans will always have a preferred Goat, so the debate is endless, as a football fans even footballers has their preferred Goat, we can't erase that, we're human and among two great players people must choose one side.  Have enjoyed both from the beginning too, and we can't see such again, for over 15, years consistency season in , season out. Today we only see players that shine for just two or one season. But Ronaldo and Messi are still playing and making impact till date. Kudos to them. But believe me, FIFA Also have their own favorite and the world see Messi as FIFA favorite, the media war against Ronaldo is enough evidence that FIFA always favor Messi over Ronaldo, some Messi Ballon d'or were rigged to him, but regardless Ronaldo is the fans favorite when it comes to football, he's the most follow human on earth on all social media platforms. Ronaldo is an inspiration for the youth players, he has done so much on and off the pitch.

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Yea, such discussion with the player is mostly important too, because he is the point of reference, if he really wants to stay, then the club can push for a permanent deal with the parent club(Manchester United). But I think Onana would want to sta, at least for his sanity and peace of mind, yea. Naturally, people tend to be comfortable where they are valued, and I think it's gearing towards that for this at Trabzonspor, because somehow, Onana is doing his best to overturn his bad spale at Manchester.

But then again, this leaves me with no other option than to ask the main or big question,,,  what is or was the problem at Manchester United? Why the poor performance, or let me rather put it this way,, why was Onana tagged the PROBLEM at Manchester considering his past performances in former clubs??? Because I can't explain or rap my fingers cross it,, that a world class goalkeeper like Onana would be regarded as a floop at Manchester United, but few moments in another club, he is adjusting to been normal.

Was it really Onana that was the problem or it was something about United??
It's the same way the fans always pick out a particular player to blame for the woes of their club. Over the years, we have seen players and coaches been called out as the problem of Manchester United and when this so called problems eventually leaves, you still find out the problem is still there or in some cases still worse. I still remember that Ronaldo was even tagged a problem by some section of the fans, media outlets and some journalists, it even became worse after that his interview with Pierce Morgan. Most people don't like the truth and that's why again they lashed out on him for saying what he said about Manchester United and today those same fans have seen the reality in what he said. They said Onana was the problem and his no more there again but the problem is still there. For me, I think the clubs problem is internal, it has it's problem from the top hierarchy.
Mate, I have been telling them years that United fans do not learn. Each season, there is a new scapegoat of an issue. Pogba, then Maguire, then De Gea, Ronaldo, now Onana. And what happens? They go, the team continues to play as a shadow of itself. It is the cycle with a new name

The fact is that the entire system was broken. When the back line is swapped every other week and no one can tell whether to press or sit, you cannot expect a keeper to look good. He moves elsewhere, then he looks calm once more, and people seem shocked

Ronaldo literally told everyone the house was on fire, but fans did not want to hear it because it hurt their nostalgia. And now the same fans are finding out he wasn't lying. Up in the clubhouse, not on the field, are the club's problems. Until that leadership rot's sorted out, we shall continue blaming whichever poor guy happens to be standing nearest the smoke


 
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October 08, 2025, 04:25:24 PM
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Focusing solely on injuries for Neymar's decline ignores crucial factors. His trajectory change began after the Paris move, where discipline, lifestyle, and a lack of consistent top-level competitive environment were as damaging as any physical injury.


Neymar is physically weak and this weakness has become the biggest obstacle to taking his career to the next level. No other player has suffered as many injuries as Neymar has suffered. When other players get injured or their injuries are serious, they stop playing there, but Neymar has come back time and time again and tried to prove it. Neymar's physical weakness has not only prevented him from expanding his career, but some of his wrong decisions have stopped his career at one place. First, Neymar got an offer from Real Madrid but Neymar did not accept that offer. If Neymar had accepted that offer, he might have been a better player now. Going to Barcelona was not a wrong decision for him, but he did not stay there, if he had stayed in Barcelona, at least one Ballon d'Or would have been next to his name. However, one day, Neymar might regret his unfinished career.
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October 08, 2025, 06:12:33 PM
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Mentality and attitude is what keep players moving, and I sense that Yamal have that mentality of growing above his age mates on football that is why at his age, he has been achieving a lot of personal trophies and recognition as a young player, but the coach needs to manage and maintain him because we have seen a lot of young players whose dream has been killed by overzealous management as they use to give them too much playing time without enough rest, and when injury start to deal with such young players, it will just end their career because once they stayed long without playing football, people will forget about them and other players will come to replace them.

Player?s lifestyle and restless behavior is also a key factor to hunt their career down, but it can all be managed especially if the player is young and do take advices, but injury can?t be controlled.
Players will end up with getting great results as long as people just leave them be. Yamal has been getting bad attention from media due to his character and his partying and all that, but when we are talking about his style and playing, so it is not really getting too much of a situation that focuses on that much.

If we are dealing with something on the field then Yamal is doing great, so it is not really that confusing. It's obvious that media is making it a bad thing right now because they want to see heroes fall, that's a news worthy thing, but as long as Yamal keeps being great on the field then nothing will happen to him and he will do fine. We should be realizing how things are getting much better situation for him if he keeps playing great.
I hope this guy continues to do great things on the pitch and that he's a little more professional off it, he should distance himself from all the partying and other things.
The fundamental thing that must be taught to these kids is respect for the profession and professionalism, something that few currently have.

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