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October 09, 2025, 05:01:29 AM
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Weird how people could hate someone who has done nothing scandalous or anything. I feel like both Messi and Ronaldo were great, I agree with that, rivalry was great because we have not seen that again since they grew older. After Ronaldo left Real Madrid and Messi left Barcelona, neither are good anymore and nobody else gives that feeling. Look at this years winner, Dembele and he is not even remotely close to what prime Messi and Ronaldo could do.

You may think Messi was PR, but do you really think that Messi wasn't ten times the player as Dembele is? It's clear that both Ronaldo and Messi were insane, these guys scored 40+ goals a year easily, for nearly 20 years, and that's an insane stat, when someone else scores 40+ in all competitions we consider that as world class now.

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October 09, 2025, 10:02:41 AM
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Ratcliffe gives Amorim 3 years, yeah... I wasn't expecting him to be this patient honestly. I thought Amorim would get sacked before even the end of this season.

He says this and gives Alex Ferguson - Arteta examples as they were also in trouble in their first 2 years. He is right about it though. Both of these managers did much better after being given more time.

Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh

Well, I think everyone deserves time to prove its worth, especially a job like coaching, where you get to study things and try out several playing patterns to suit your squad and the result you actually need. He has just been in the club not up to a year after been given a contract on 1st November 2024 and began his work the next day, 11th. So I think its only wise they give him time and that's the right thing they have done. Let's hope he improves the squad and turns things around positively.

If we look at Arteta in Arsenal, you notice he was given enough time, and we see how things have improved over time. Though he is still without a major trophy till date, but he has built the club to become a major title contender in all competition. He joined the club December 20th 2019, and by this date this year, he would become 6years. So I see time playing a major role and giviyhim the chance to adapt to the coaching job and having the freedom to explore different options to ensure productivity which we are seen over the years.

I think giving Reuben Amorin more time as stated is the best thing to do. The fans should also understand that everything deserves time and support the coach. Fans are always one major problem players or coach faces. Once fans loose interest in you, they make your stay a very miserable one with provocative talks and chants.. the fans should support him and believing the process

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October 09, 2025, 11:01:26 AM
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Would've never said these words better. Long-term contracts for Jordan Pickford and James Garner are also being lined up to follow suit. I love how they're shaping a solid squad for David Moyes. What I expect of him is not top four positions at the end of the season but top 6 positions. They can do better with this particular squad but ome step at a time I see. Why am I the only one itching for that game against Manchester City so bad? A full-time draw I'd predict in advance.  
Contract extensions for these two players are urgently needed because Pickford and James Garner play crucial roles for the team, so steps need to be taken to secure their positions. Competing for a top-three finish until the end of the season may be difficult as they'll face several other strong teams with much better players, but competing for a top-six finish could be David Moyes' target this season if they can perform consistently.

There's still a long way to go, and it might be a bit challenging for Everton to maintain their mid-table position, as they didn't perform well last season. Facing Man City will be a real test of this team's readiness to compete for the target we've been discussing, because if they can hold Man City to a draw, they might be considered capable.

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October 09, 2025, 11:06:17 AM
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Ratcliffe gives Amorim 3 years, yeah... I wasn't expecting him to be this patient honestly. I thought Amorim would get sacked before even the end of this season.
He says this and gives Alex Ferguson - Arteta examples as they were also in trouble in their first 2 years. He is right about it though. Both of these managers did much better after being given more time.
Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh

Is it better to be a champion once and then be out of the race for 8-10 years, or to be a team that competes every year, coming close to winning the championship even if they don't win, get second places? I think that's the difference between Arsenal and Manchester United. Arteta may not have won the league, but he came very close and finished second three years in a row. Manchester United, on the other hand, finished the season in 15th, 8th, 3rd and 6th place, respectively. They can't even get close to second place, let alone the championship. You'd expect a club that spends so much money to achieve some success at some point. But that's not happening. Let's see how long this continues.
Well I don’t think there is any much difference between Arsenal and Manchester United, Manchester United have been more successful than Arsenal in the 20th century, and Manchester United have won the Champions League in the 20th century and Arsenal have never won any Champions League in their life, When Arsene Wenger was at Arsenal they don’t win much trophies Wenger tried by winning the Premier League, and only tries to qualify for the Champions League after that, But Manchester United was winning Premier League and qualifying for the Champions League, and even won the Champions League, but now we feel Arsenal are dominating but to me they’re not dominating, because they only finish second place, without a trophy to show for it, No Premier League, No Champions League, only finishing second place and qualifying for Champions League, I don’t think there is any difference between Arteta and Arsene Wenger time, because it was mostly qualifying for top 4 and nothing more, and that is still the same thing Arteta have achieved after spending so much money than Arsene Wenger, Arsene Wenger even won a Premier League, so he is much better than Arteta, and right now I still think Manchester United are more successful than Arsenal presently in the last decades.











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October 09, 2025, 11:08:08 AM
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Would've never said these words better. Long-term contracts for Jordan Pickford and James Garner are also being lined up to follow suit. I love how they're shaping a solid squad for David Moyes. What I expect of him is not top four positions at the end of the season but top 6 positions. They can do better with this particular squad but ome step at a time I see. Why am I the only one itching for that game against Manchester City so bad? A full-time draw I'd predict in advance.  
Contract extensions for these two players are urgently needed because Pickford and James Garner play crucial roles for the team, so steps need to be taken to secure their positions. Competing for a top-three finish until the end of the season may be difficult as they'll face several other strong teams with much better players, but competing for a top-six finish could be David Moyes' target this season if they can perform consistently.

There's still a long way to go, and it might be a bit challenging for Everton to maintain their mid-table position, as they didn't perform well last season. Facing Man City will be a real test of this team's readiness to compete for the target we've been discussing, because if they can hold Man City to a draw, they might be considered capable.
After the first seven matches, Everton isn't bad at all. They have a few places ahead of Manchester City. Of course, Manchester City will have the advantage in this match because they're playing at home. However, this could change if any of their players get injured during the international break. If their players are healthy and return strong, I think Manchester City are the favorites. They've been in good form recently, and their players are in good form. Everton isn't a tough opponent for them.

 
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October 09, 2025, 11:09:46 AM
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Ratcliffe gives Amorim 3 years, yeah... I wasn't expecting him to be this patient honestly. I thought Amorim would get sacked before even the end of this season.

He says this and gives Alex Ferguson - Arteta examples as they were also in trouble in their first 2 years. He is right about it though. Both of these managers did much better after being given more time.

Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh

I don’t know who was hoping for this. I was convinced Amorim wouldn’t stay as manager for much longer. But three years?? That might be too much unless they bring in some proper reinforcements. It’s hard to believe Man Utd can recover that easily, even in three years. I don’t know what to say. I’d just wish Amorim good luck.

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October 09, 2025, 11:13:08 AM
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Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh

It's a good idea from Ratcliffe to want to give Amorim 3 years to prove himself.  Amorim did well at Sporting Lisbon, but he has not really hit the ground running at Manchester United,  so I believe  he has potential and all he needs is time and patient,  hopefully he find his feet.
Arteta is a very good example,  despite the fact that he won the FA cup in his first season, he struggled for some time and he is contesting for tropies now, and Arsenal fan really believes in him. I think if Amorim is giving the same time, he might turn out to be a good coach.


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October 09, 2025, 12:06:24 PM
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Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh

It's a good idea from Ratcliffe to want to give Amorim 3 years to prove himself.  Amorim did well at Sporting Lisbon, but he has not really hit the ground running at Manchester United,  so I believe  he has potential and all he needs is time and patient,  hopefully he find his feet.
Arteta is a very good example,  despite the fact that he won the FA cup in his first season, he struggled for some time and he is contesting for tropies now, and Arsenal fan really believes in him. I think if Amorim is giving the same time, he might turn out to be a good coach.


We can criticize Arteta now, but we must remember that he's a manager who can serve a team better after a long tenure. As you mentioned, Arsenal manager Arteta is a prime example. It's important for Manchester United to believe in him. However, he must also achieve certain things this year. He should at least be in the ranks to qualify for next year's Europa League. While the Champions League goal may seem a bit daunting, he can reach Europa League and achieve success there. For the following year, the Portuguese manager should prioritize the Champions League and a return to the title race.

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Messi is lucky to be loved by FIFA which was why he achieved more than Ronaldo, but there's where Ronaldo is a king to Messi. This shows that these two players have their own special qualities in them despite that they reign at the same time. Ronaldo is the world highest goal scorer in the history of football and I am happy for that because the fun in football is all about scoring goals.
Never understood this type of fandom to be fair. To me, Ronaldo and Messi are both great, while it is true that I love Messi more, I also love watching Ronaldo play, maybe neither of them look great anymore because I have hard time seeing them play now, they were insane. So when I see one fandom attack the other player like he is bad, it makes no sense to me.

So in this case, saying Messi was a PR player and all that, when he scored 90 goals in one year, you have to ask, how many penalties or easy goals did he get? Like have you not even watched him play and see the crazy stuff he did? Even Messi and Ronaldo agree that it's two of them who are great and the best. Just be happy that we got to watch both of them play.
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Messi is lucky to be loved by FIFA which was why he achieved more than Ronaldo, but there's where Ronaldo is a king to Messi. This shows that these two players have their own special qualities in them despite that they reign at the same time. Ronaldo is the world highest goal scorer in the history of football and I am happy for that because the fun in football is all about scoring goals.
Never understood this type of fandom to be fair. To me, Ronaldo and Messi are both great, while it is true that I love Messi more, I also love watching Ronaldo play, maybe neither of them look great anymore because I have hard time seeing them play now, they were insane. So when I see one fandom attack the other player like he is bad, it makes no sense to me.

So in this case, saying Messi was a PR player and all that, when he scored 90 goals in one year, you have to ask, how many penalties or easy goals did he get? Like have you not even watched him play and see the crazy stuff he did? Even Messi and Ronaldo agree that it's two of them who are great and the best. Just be happy that we got to watch both of them play.
It's never right to fanatically support one side. Football encompasses every moment that brings you joy. I enjoy watching Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, just as I enjoyed watching Lamine Yamal this year. That doesn't mean I'll support one or be a fan of either. I can watch both players, and that's a right I'm granted. The best thing is to enjoy the moment.











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Ratcliffe gives Amorim 3 years, yeah... I wasn't expecting him to be this patient honestly. I thought Amorim would get sacked before even the end of this season.

He says this and gives Alex Ferguson - Arteta examples as they were also in trouble in their first 2 years. He is right about it though. Both of these managers did much better after being given more time.

Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh

Three years sounds unrealistic given the current football landscape, but if he's not overly concerned with trophies, it's a natural move. After all, United remains one of the most popular clubs in the world and generates revenue no matter what. But it seems to me that there are still some minimum target levels for each of these three years. As I heard, this is the European Cup zone for this year, i.e. Amorim will not be fired if United finishes no lower than 6th. At the moment even that task looks difficult as there is a group of teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, City, Chelsea and daring newcomers like Newcastle/Crystal Palace/Bournemouth.

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Ratcliffe gives Amorim 3 years, yeah... I wasn't expecting him to be this patient honestly. I thought Amorim would get sacked before even the end of this season.

He says this and gives Alex Ferguson - Arteta examples as they were also in trouble in their first 2 years. He is right about it though. Both of these managers did much better after being given more time.

Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh
At least they know better, as a football fan, sometimes it's just frustrating seeing big team fall down the ladder so we start calling for the coaches head and at times we still feel it's not entirely their fault and they should be giving more time. It's not that we are double edged sword, it's just that we are fans. Sometimes we get angry when things don't go our way and sometimes we are happy when it's moving fine, we just move with the flow. It's best they have a coach instead of changing them when they are not entirely the problem. The problem is beyond just te coaches and players but extends down to the board. The moment they realise this and start making changes then Manchester United will be great again.

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I don’t know who was hoping for this. I was convinced Amorim wouldn’t stay as manager for much longer. But three years?? That might be too much unless they bring in some proper reinforcements. It’s hard to believe Man Utd can recover that easily, even in three years. I don’t know what to say. I’d just wish Amorim good luck.

Just when majority of the Manchester United fans and other fan base thought that Amorim will be sacked before the season ends, seems the board has a different plan as they've broken the hearts of the fans. But the honest truth is, I'm not a fan that supports a club that changes Managers every time. Can you believe that despite the important trophies Maresca have won, some of the fans are quick to call for his sacking whenever he fails to win a game.

Managers needs time, but the fan base most times are not patient enough. Three years is quite lengthy though, which I think might be unbearable for the United fans, especially when Amorim fails to give a good result. Like I said the last time, I hope Manchester united fans have what it takes to bear with Amorim.

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I don’t know who was hoping for this. I was convinced Amorim wouldn’t stay as manager for much longer. But three years?? That might be too much unless they bring in some proper reinforcements. It’s hard to believe Man Utd can recover that easily, even in three years. I don’t know what to say. I’d just wish Amorim good luck.
I don't know why Man United management gave Amorim three years, as we can see that he hasn't fully overcome the problems left by Erik ten Hag. Since taking over at Man United, Amorim has received full support from the management, who have invested a lot of resources to make his job easier, but he still has difficulty getting Man United to perform at their best.
The results achieved by Amorim so far have not been satisfactory, I think the Management must move faster to save the club from the slump, I dare not say that retaining Amorim was a mistake, but the fact is that he has failed to carry out his duties.

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I don’t know who was hoping for this. I was convinced Amorim wouldn’t stay as manager for much longer. But three years?? That might be too much unless they bring in some proper reinforcements. It’s hard to believe Man Utd can recover that easily, even in three years. I don’t know what to say. I’d just wish Amorim good luck.
I don't know why Man United management gave Amorim three years, as we can see that he hasn't fully overcome the problems left by Erik ten Hag. Since taking over at Man United, Amorim has received full support from the management, who have invested a lot of resources to make his job easier, but he still has difficulty getting Man United to perform at their best.
The results achieved by Amorim so far have not been satisfactory, I think the Management must move faster to save the club from the slump, I dare not say that retaining Amorim was a mistake, but the fact is that he has failed to carry out his duties.
The management must have complete confidence in him. Perhaps he's convinced them. Because if the management gave him a three-year term, they're confident in his plans. He achieved great success at Sporting Lisbon. After going through that period with Manchester United, if he can achieve something like Sporting Lisbon, Amorim will make all the criticisms go away. As a promising manager, he must meet this challenge with the utmost confidence. He must be planning his success in the Premier League right now.

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I don't know why Man United management gave Amorim three years, as we can see that he hasn't fully overcome the problems left by Erik ten Hag. Since taking over at Man United, Amorim has received full support from the management, who have invested a lot of resources to make his job easier, but he still has difficulty getting Man United to perform at their best.
The results achieved by Amorim so far have not been satisfactory, I think the Management must move faster to save the club from the slump, I dare not say that retaining Amorim was a mistake, but the fact is that he has failed to carry out his duties.

The reason is that the management of the club believes that Ruben Amorim needs time to prove himself. Jim Ratcliffe gave an example with Mikel Arteta, who had some rough seasons before he stabilised the Arsenal squad. Although Manchester United lost about £33m since they didn't get a Champions League qualification, and they will still lose more if they fail to make it, the club still believes in the former Sporting Lisbon coach. This season is just beginning, and the Red Devils can still come up with a surprise.

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October 09, 2025, 05:41:35 PM
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Three years sounds unrealistic given the current football landscape, but if he's not overly concerned with trophies, it's a natural move. After all, United remains one of the most popular clubs in the world and generates revenue no matter what. But it seems to me that there are still some minimum target levels for each of these three years. As I heard, this is the European Cup zone for this year, i.e. Amorim will not be fired if United finishes no lower than 6th. At the moment even that task looks difficult as there is a group of teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, City, Chelsea and daring newcomers like Newcastle/Crystal Palace/Bournemouth.

It's always unrealistic when it is time for Manchester United to rebuild and back a new manager. Not even Klopp and Pep Guardiola did well during their debut season and they all got the backing of their management. So what is wrong with Manchester United going through that phase and stage?! I'm grateful for Jim Ratcliffe, he has come out to silence the media and whatever agendas they have against Ruben Amorim for a possible future sack. Not even Mikel Arteta who's in for 6 years has won shiit for his club.

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October 09, 2025, 06:20:09 PM
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Ratcliffe gives Amorim 3 years, yeah... I wasn't expecting him to be this patient honestly. I thought Amorim would get sacked before even the end of this season.

He says this and gives Alex Ferguson - Arteta examples as they were also in trouble in their first 2 years. He is right about it though. Both of these managers did much better after being given more time.

Arteta is still trophyless in the Premier League maybe but he at least made his team competitive for one. Do you think Amorim will also reach that level?  Huh
Honestly, I thought Amorim's days at Manchester United were numbered following their poor start in the league, but it's good to know he still has the backing of the club. It was just a few days ago that I got to know he struggled in his first season at Sporting before they became a force to reckon with in the league. So I guess Ratcliffe might have also taken that into perspective before throwing his weight behind Amorim. Time would tell if he made the right decision or not.

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October 09, 2025, 06:23:02 PM
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I wonder why Monaco is thinking of replacing him... Is it because of the Champions League results? They don't look bad in the Ligue 1 honestly. That's why I find it interesting.

Sébastien Pocognoli made USG champions in the Jupiler League after 90 years. He is still doing really good there now. He is only 38 now, a young manager. I assume they want to try something new.  Smiley

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October 09, 2025, 06:26:27 PM
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Ratcliffe gives Amorim 3 years, yeah... I wasn't expecting him to be this patient honestly. I thought Amorim would get sacked before even the end of this season.
It's hard to understand the way SJR is thinking about his club. He sacked the previous manager who won two trophies and helped club finished at the top 4. He's now defending someone who bring MU to the lowest level on its history. At this point i think SJR is twat.
I understand if SJR might think sacking him would not solve the problem. yet, keeping him with no improvement in the squad is also a risky decision too.

I guess that how Glazer might be doing better than SJR, though they're greedy as hell by sucking club's liquidity.

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