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July 18, 2017, 07:38:09 PM |
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Guys, dont be stupid, its an internal hack , please think , ok , the website was hacked. but what about the spreadsheet ? its a google sheet , stored on google drive, stored on google servers , so it have nothing to do with the Coindash website hack ... They have deleted the file, thats all , and that mean that it was not an external hack ... I mean, why the fuck would devs care about the spreadsheet and close file if they where really hacked from outside ??
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malami
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July 18, 2017, 07:43:26 PM |
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There were two possible scenarios.
1. Everyone (white listers and those that got scammed) get the token that is worthless and only after many months might be worth a bit (but probably still below ICO price).
2. White list would get possibility of instant refund (which they might agree to or they might keep their tokens) that would instantly boost confidence in the project and make CDT valuable and priced above the ICO. Those who sent to the scammy address would get CDT that would be valued above the ICO. Everyone would profit and everyone would be happy.
Now, because people who were not on the white list didn't want second option because they do not understand how things work, everyone will be bag holder of worthless token. And everyone could profit if we pushed for first option. Congratulations to those who were scammed who took away the profit from everyone including themselves. You deserve it now. Congratulations to those who were not white listed and yet understood the other option was better to go with.[/size][/color]
I agree if they offered a refund to whitelisters they could restore confidence. People should also not forget that although coindash are 100% to blame for the website hack people who send ETH to the fake address should have had a it more foresight to check that they were sending to a real contract address rather than just blindly FOMO into it. They should meet both sides halfway by giving the scammed people their tokens and offering a refund to whitelisters, this is the best chance of preserving the token value
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crys191971
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July 18, 2017, 07:45:21 PM |
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Excuse ignorance, but what is the white list. About which address is it?
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newcoin01
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July 18, 2017, 07:46:14 PM |
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Guys, dont be stupid, its an internal hack , please think , ok , the website was hacked. but what about the spreadsheet ? its a google sheet , stored on google drive, stored on google servers , so it have nothing to do with the Coindash website hack ... They have deleted the file, thats all , and that mean that it was not an external hack ... I mean, why the fuck would devs care about the spreadsheet and close file if they where really hacked from outside ??
I sent hacker's address. I'm angry. I have doubts that it was internal hack. But can't accuse them, because we don't know. Yes don't trust them but that's not enough.
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Godly
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July 18, 2017, 07:49:20 PM |
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Refund those on the whitelist who do not want the tokens. Burn half of the tokens from the refunds. Use the other half as bonuses for everyone who participated in the ICO, both the real and fake address. Build your empire, earn your keep. Get this situation resolved asap and move on to developing.
agree here!! it make sense!!! why is dev ignoring
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Scaccomatt0
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July 18, 2017, 07:50:48 PM |
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internal or not internal hack, this is a bad story for crypto and a really bad story for ICO/token sale. I hope everything will be fixed.
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easyrimka
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July 18, 2017, 07:51:59 PM |
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Guys, dont be stupid, its an internal hack , please think , ok , the website was hacked. but what about the spreadsheet ? its a google sheet , stored on google drive, stored on google servers , so it have nothing to do with the Coindash website hack ... They have deleted the file, thats all , and that mean that it was not an external hack ... I mean, why the fuck would devs care about the spreadsheet and close file if they where really hacked from outside ??
I sent hacker's address. I'm angry. I have doubts that it was internal hack. But can't accuse them, because we don't know. Yes don't trust them but that's not enough. i understant guy, i'm happy i didnt participate to this ICO , because i was on the coindash scam topic since early june... Now you are depending on the team , they say they will give DCT token to people who where stolen... but the project is completely fucked up, who will trust them ?? Even if the show the proof that it was external hacking, who will trust guyz that dont even know how to secure a website ??
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bitcoin-shark
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July 18, 2017, 07:53:03 PM |
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so ico will go on normaly?also signature campaign?need an official annonce in short time...
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chinapeople
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July 18, 2017, 07:53:20 PM |
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Guys, dont be stupid, its an internal hack , please think , ok , the website was hacked. but what about the spreadsheet ? its a google sheet , stored on google drive, stored on google servers , so it have nothing to do with the Coindash website hack ... They have deleted the file, thats all , and that mean that it was not an external hack ... I mean, why the fuck would devs care about the spreadsheet and close file if they where really hacked from outside ??
I sent hacker's address. I'm angry. I have doubts that it was internal hack. But can't accuse them, because we don't know. Yes don't trust them but that's not enough. i understant guy, i'm happy i didnt participate to this ICO , because i was on the coindash scam topic since early june... Now you are depending on the team , they say they will give DCT token to people who where stolen... but the project is completely fucked up, who will trust them ?? Even if the show the proof that it was external hacking, who will trust guyz that dont even know how to secure a website ?? No one said anything about DCT tokens? That is different topic. You are mixed up
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majestymage
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July 18, 2017, 08:14:20 PM |
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such a good ideea gone bad
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superbit
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July 18, 2017, 08:18:26 PM |
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I just can't comprehend why they wouldn't give whitelist the option to send the CDT back for a refund and then open it back up to anyone that does want to go in. It makes no sense unless it was planned from the start. Seems like the easiest way to start trying to build some credibility back.
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raymonddaf
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July 18, 2017, 08:18:48 PM |
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There were two possible scenarios.
1. Everyone (white listers and those that got scammed) get the token that is worthless and only after many months might be worth a bit (but probably still below ICO price).
2. White list would get possibility of instant refund (which they might agree to or they might keep their tokens) that would instantly boost confidence in the project and make CDT valuable and priced above the ICO. Those who sent to the scammy address would get CDT that would be valued above the ICO. Everyone would profit and everyone would be happy.
Now, because people who were not on the white list didn't want second option because they do not understand how things work, everyone will be bag holder of worthless token. And everyone could profit if we pushed for first option. Congratulations to those who were scammed who took away the profit from everyone including themselves. You deserve it now. Congratulations to those who were not white listed and yet understood the other option was better to go with.[/size][/color]
I agree if they offered a refund to whitelisters they could restore confidence. People should also not forget that although coindash are 100% to blame for the website hack people who send ETH to the fake address should have had a it more foresight to check that they were sending to a real contract address rather than just blindly FOMO into it. They should meet both sides halfway by giving the scammed people their tokens and offering a refund to whitelisters, this is the best chance of preserving the token value Option no2 - you really think doing this coin will open above ico price? - not a chance. This option is being pushed by people on the whitelist. Plus say 80% ask for refund then the team have little money to develop the project effectively making the Cdt distributed effectively worthless and the project dead. This simply will not happen. You could look at this another way. Anyone on whitelist got their tokens already so keep them. Whitelisted contributors were the ones who helped the team along the way so surely they would be more likely to believe in the project and opt to keep their tokens. coindash could give extra % of tokens that make up for the hack. For those who sent to fake address refubd them their eth if they want it or give them tokens if they want that (plus extra tokens same as I've said above). This would depend on the % of people who wanted refund since the amount sent to fake address is more than the whitelisted amount. Everyone on whitelist will say no to this as it doesn't favour them. Not trying to create an argument just pointing out that if given an option both fake address and whitelist contributors would want a refund. Only 1 thing can and will happen, everyone will get cdt tokens (possibly a higher % than they were meant to get), this will allow the team to keep the eth and try and develop the project. I really do not see any other viable option here to keep the project alive, and to be fair on both fake and whitelist contributors.
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Yza_azY
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July 18, 2017, 08:22:22 PM |
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It's not fucking rocket science lol. let me get in the driving seat if you're incapable of sorting this out.
1) Get your shitty little community managers to be active in times like these. Social media, blogs, aswell as forums. Investors need reassurance, our questions answered, and quite frankly your community team need to do their work.
2) Set up a smart contract where whitelist participants send their CDT tokens to get their ETH back. After all, it's their ETH, so give them the option and provide it to the rightful owners. It's only fair in this sort of situation.
3) BURN all CDT tokens that have been refunded.
4) Minimise your dev fund, and provide extra bonuses to those who sent it to the fake address. With the extra bonus aswell as the burning of the tokens, this will help weight out the negatives and hopefully provide a stable, if not, profitable outcome for those holding CDT.
5) Fire your security team.
6) Stop being so greedy and listen to your community, without your investors you'd be nothing.
-- You want to re-gain trust? Stop holding innocent peoples ETH and do the bullet points listed and work from there.
SIMPLE.
QUOTE THIS IF YOU AGREE.
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SmokeJoe
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July 18, 2017, 08:23:12 PM |
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I just can't comprehend why they wouldn't give whitelist the option to send the CDT back for a refund and then open it back up to anyone that does want to go in. It makes no sense unless it was planned from the start. Seems like the easiest way to start trying to build some credibility back.
Because they are scammers as it was proven here.
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Commie
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July 18, 2017, 08:37:26 PM |
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Because they are scammers as it was proven here.
Proven by who? Any links to read on the matter?
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S.Naka
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July 18, 2017, 08:41:06 PM |
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Because they are scammers as it was proven here.
Proven by who? Any links to read on the matter? I proven u make account for say this shit. Israel Police Information Center 110 Address: Public Complaints Unit, 91 Herzl Street, The Government Complex Building, Ramla 7243003 Email: tlunot@police.gov.ilPhone 100 Additional telephone number 08-9189436 Fax: 02-5898823 Telephone service: 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
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I LOVE ETH, MORE THEN BCC HAHAHAH!
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c0in_junkie
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July 18, 2017, 08:41:49 PM |
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I hate it... got scammed too.... This project is dead or? Who will believe in this now..
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reebokasss
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July 18, 2017, 08:48:03 PM |
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They collected 39000eth from whitelist, eth will be 300$ soon so its 12mln like they wanted:D everything is fine:D to the moon:D
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SmokeJoe
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July 18, 2017, 08:48:25 PM |
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We got scammed by Coindash devs who refuse to buy back the worthless CDT token. If anyone has Reddit account share this on Ethtrader.
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S.Naka
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July 18, 2017, 08:59:18 PM |
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refund the whitelist immediately!
I like that one below the most. Didn't know you can paint text like this on Bitcointalk. Refund the whitelist immediately!+1 Refund the whitelist immediately!+1 Refund the whitelist immediately!+1 +1 Refund the whitelist immediately!+1 Refund the whitelist immediately!+1 Refund the whitelist immediately!+1 Refund the whitelist immediately!+1 Refund the whitelist immediately!
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I LOVE ETH, MORE THEN BCC HAHAHAH!
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