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June 10, 2014, 12:43:29 PM
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I've come across links to charts that I can't find on the bitcoinwisdom site directly.

such as

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/drkusd
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/drkbtc
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bter/nxtcny 
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bter/nxtbtc


Are there more charts like these that are not listed on bitcoinwisdom, and where can I find them?





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June 10, 2014, 02:29:53 PM
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Hi,

I've recently done a bit of research and programming related to Parabolic SAR.   It seems that the SAR calculation you're using is the one described at stockcharts.com:

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Because TradingView's EP setting doesn't work well for Bitcoin which has high volatility. I use highest/lowest price of 4 candlesticks as EP instead of 2 or whole period. It's custom parameter in design, 0 for EP of period, 2 for Stockcharts and 4 is default. But there are too many parameters already and all of them are saved in cookie, to prevent increasing cookie size, I didn't add the parameters entry.

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June 10, 2014, 02:34:10 PM
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In the Huobi BTC/CNY chart, 30m or smaller intervals: when the cursor is over the order book plot, the text that shows cost and receive ends with "The average ... SATOSHI/BTC" instead of "... CNY/BTC".
Thank you for reporting. the bug is fixed.

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June 10, 2014, 03:49:32 PM
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Hi,

I've recently done a bit of research and programming related to Parabolic SAR.   It seems that the SAR calculation you're using is the one described at stockcharts.com:

....

litepresence
Because TradingView's EP setting doesn't work well for Bitcoin which has high volatility. I use highest/lowest price of 4 candlesticks as EP instead of 2 or whole period. It's custom parameter in design, 0 for EP of period, 2 for Stockcharts and 4 is default. But there are too many parameters already and all of them are saved in cookie, to prevent increasing cookie size, I didn't add the parameters entry.


Thanks for your response.  In my next release of my custom Python SAR for Tradewave.net I will include an input variable for lookback period and take your recommendation that 0 = MAX of previous period. 

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June 11, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
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Please swap bitstamp with bitfinex on the top bar.
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Whatever. And no you haven’t been in bitcoin since 2010. Plus if you really feel the way you do. Then sell. Have conviction. If not keep pounding sand.
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June 11, 2014, 09:26:12 PM
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Please swap bitstamp with bitfinex on the top bar.

Horrible idea.

Bitfinex has a shitty chart with extreme flash crashes and less price history.

Bitstamp's chart is far smoother and better to chart.


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June 12, 2014, 02:35:55 AM
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When I scroll with my mouse wheel, it zooms in and out of the chart.

Is there any way that we can shift-scroll or ctrl-scroll to pan left and right?
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June 12, 2014, 09:39:50 AM
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Hi,
there are possibly some problems with the time line at bitfinex/ltcbtc and bitfinex/ltcusd pairs at below 1hr interval

screenshot:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4p6JEDafeP5cWdteGxQdHZmYWM/edit
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June 12, 2014, 11:54:02 AM
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Finex has...
Higher volume
1/2 price fees
Margin trading
Better liquidity

Bitfinex = 646,  China= 646.... Stamp = 625....  

So.. the question is... why keep bitstamp up the top when its over priced, lacking features, crap site, crap liquidity and price is also gox like at odds with china and other exchanges.

The volume thing may be a temporary situation. They are pretty much neck-on-neck at the moment regarding volume and Bitstamp could easily fall back to #1. Also, stamp has no margin trading, so without margin bitfinex would be many times smaller in volume.

I give you that on the fees and functionality. However, Bitstamp is designed with new users to cryptocurrencies in mind (i.e. very basic). Bitfinex has a higher proportion of pure speculators than Bitstamp and hence its price does not reflect the non-speculative demand for bitcoin as much as on Bitstamp.


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June 12, 2014, 11:56:16 AM
Last edit: June 12, 2014, 12:18:49 PM by BitcoinWisdom
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Please swap bitstamp with bitfinex on the top bar.

Horrible idea.

Bitfinex has a shitty chart with extreme flash crashes and less price history.

Bitstamp's chart is far smoother and better to chart.

Finex has...
Higher volume
1/2 price fees
Margin trading
Better liquidity

Bitfinex = 646,  China= 646.... Stamp = 625....  

So.. the question is... why keep bitstamp up the top when its over priced, lacking features, crap site, crap liquidity and price is also gox like at odds with china and other exchanges.
China has banned Bitcoin, the price of China could not be reference in global.
Current price:
BTC/USD Bitstamp 625.79 BTC-e 627.4 Coinbase 626.92
BTC/EUR Kraken 464.35 (equals 627.96 in USD)
BTC/CAD Cavirtex 693.92 VoS 685.11 (equals 630.96 ~ 639.2 in USD)
And Bitfinex's price is 638.1, it should be caused by margin trading. Margin trading will increase volume a lot and the price will be different with other exchange. Margin trading needs close position to finish the trading.

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June 12, 2014, 12:10:08 PM
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When I scroll with my mouse wheel, it zooms in and out of the chart.

Is there any way that we can shift-scroll or ctrl-scroll to pan left and right?
The zoom in/out is always base on the rightmost candlestick.
Use Drag and Drop to move the charts.

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June 12, 2014, 12:15:23 PM
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Hi,
there are possibly some problems with the time line at bitfinex/ltcbtc and bitfinex/ltcusd pairs at below 1hr interval

screenshot:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4p6JEDafeP5cWdteGxQdHZmYWM/edit
The issue exist for some time, Because the candlestick with the label is omitted. I will improve if there is time.

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June 12, 2014, 01:16:06 PM
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When I scroll with my mouse wheel, it zooms in and out of the chart.

Is there any way that we can shift-scroll or ctrl-scroll to pan left and right?
The zoom in/out is always base on the rightmost candlestick.
Use Drag and Drop to move the charts.

I understand this. Is there any way that we can hold down a key and use the mouse wheel to move the charts left and right?

Also, is there any way to preserve where I've moved the chart when I scroll in or out? i.e. if I move the chart to the right a few hours into blank space, can you keep the chart where it is when you zoom in and out?
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June 12, 2014, 02:21:05 PM
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What do think about BTC/PLN pairs on BitcoinWisdom?

Those are Polish exchanges that would be cool to include:

https://pln.bitcurex.com/
https://bitbay.pl/
https://bitmarket.pl/

Poland has got a lot of BTC fans, so this could bring a lot of new users for this site...

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June 12, 2014, 02:47:05 PM
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When I scroll with my mouse wheel, it zooms in and out of the chart.

Is there any way that we can shift-scroll or ctrl-scroll to pan left and right?
The zoom in/out is always base on the rightmost candlestick.
Use Drag and Drop to move the charts.

I understand this. Is there any way that we can hold down a key and use the mouse wheel to move the charts left and right?

Also, is there any way to preserve where I've moved the chart when I scroll in or out? i.e. if I move the chart to the right a few hours into blank space, can you keep the chart where it is when you zoom in and out?
Use mousewheel to scrolling is some covenience than drag and drop. but after combine with other hand, it has no advantage anymore. so it won't be supported.

Preserve the position was implemented very first, and to make sure "auto scrolling" always work as expected, it was replaced by current zoom in/out function. The two function is too similar and have different user experience, implement both will confuse user, so it won't be added too.

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June 12, 2014, 03:42:13 PM
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Largest Chinese Exchange OKCoin

"Blockchain Exec Joins Largest Chinese Exchange OKCoin"
http://www.coindesk.com/senior-blockchain-exec-joins-largest-chinese-exchange-okcoin/

please change Huobi to OKCoin on homepage  Cool
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Largest Chinese Exchange OKCoin

"Blockchain Exec Joins Largest Chinese Exchange OKCoin"
http://www.coindesk.com/senior-blockchain-exec-joins-largest-chinese-exchange-okcoin/

please change Huobi to OKCoin on homepage  Cool

OKCoin is a fraudulent exchange with fake volumes:

http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-okcoin-accused-faking-trading-data/


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June 12, 2014, 04:03:47 PM
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Largest Chinese Exchange OKCoin

"Blockchain Exec Joins Largest Chinese Exchange OKCoin"
http://www.coindesk.com/senior-blockchain-exec-joins-largest-chinese-exchange-okcoin/

please change Huobi to OKCoin on homepage  Cool
A little hurried no? Let's see first what the guy will do at OKCoin.  He may work on a new overseas BTC/CNH exchange, for example.  Or stop bitcoin and litecoin trading at OKCoin, and turn it into a Dogecoin-only site.  Grin

Huobi still seems to have the "cleanest" BTC/CNY chart, with a tight spread and volume that changes as expected according to the local time and holidays.  OKCoin has a steady ~10% bachround volume, 24/7, that may be fake trade.

EDIT: seriously, every exchange may be using fake trades to boost their volume or manipulate the price; and every exchange may be trading against its clients, with obvious unfair advantages, or doing other unethical things.  Methinks that bitcoinwisdom should not give much thought about those issues; its best interest should be to provide whatever its users want.

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"Blockchain Exec Joins Largest Chinese Exchange OKCoin"
http://www.coindesk.com/senior-blockchain-exec-joins-largest-chinese-exchange-okcoin/

please change Huobi to OKCoin on homepage  Cool
A little hurried no? Let's see first what the guy will do at OKCoin.  He may work on a new overseas BTC/CNH exchange, for example.  Or stop bitcoin and litecoin trading at OKCoin, and turn it into a Dogecoin-only site.  Grin

Huobi still seems to have the "cleanest" BTC/CNY chart, with a tight spread and volume that changes as expected according to the local time and holidays.  OKCoin has a steady ~10% bachround volume, 24/7, that may be fake trade.

EDIT: seriously, every exchange may be using fake trades to boost their volume or manipulate the price; and every exchange may be trading against its clients, with obvious unfair advantages, or doing other unethical things.  Methinks that bitcoinwisdom should not give much thought about those issues; its best interest should be to provide whatever its users want.
I don't trust OKCoin either. The bid ratio distribution never goes right. If their system doesn't have flaw, it must be contain fake trades.

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I don't trust OKCoin either. The bid ratio distribution never goes right. If their system doesn't have flaw, it must be contain fake trades.
You are aware that the order book shown on bitcoinwisdom and other chart sites is truncated, right?  You cannot get the bid/ask ratio rfom that.

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