Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order?

[Inaba]

if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

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BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.

Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/)  

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...

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[DPoS]

if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

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BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.

Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/)  

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...

are you still debating this silly point?? is this the only argument you can win?

[Inaba]

if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

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BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.

Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/) 

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...

are you still debating this silly point?? is this the only argument you can win?

That and every other debate I enter into.  Disagree?  Post evidence.  Tired of people like you who make wild claims but are unable to back up their claims.  Thanks for playing though.

[Xian01]

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

 Way to evade again, Josh. So when are you going to do the honorable thing and honor the bet ?

 Clearly, you have not met your power targets despite all your previous hubris.

 

[smoothie]

if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

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BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.

Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/) 

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...

are you still debating this silly point?? is this the only argument you can win?

That and every other debate I enter into.  Disagree?  Post evidence.  Tired of people like you who make wild claims but are unable to back up their claims.  Thanks for playing though.

EVIDENCE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191600.0

You have an outstanding bet (on top of the BFL charity bet) for 1000 BTC to user Runeks.

Is that enough evidence for you not to ignore my post?

Someone quote me, he might have me on ignore lol.

[ragingazn628]

if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

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BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.

Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/) 

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...

are you still debating this silly point?? is this the only argument you can win?

That and every other debate I enter into.  Disagree?  Post evidence.  Tired of people like you who make wild claims but are unable to back up their claims.  Thanks for playing though.

EVIDENCE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191600.0

You have an outstanding bet (on top of the BFL charity bet) for 1000 BTC to user Runeks.

Is that enough evidence for you not to ignore my post?

Someone quote me, he might have me on ignore lol.

1000 BTC is chump change for him

[PuertoLibre]

"Vote with your wallet."

"Conn with your ads."

[PuertoLibre]

if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

...
BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.

Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/)  

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...

are you still debating this silly point?? is this the only argument you can win?

That and every other debate I enter into.  Disagree?  Post evidence. Tired of people like you who make wild claims but are unable to back up their claims.  Thanks for playing though.

EVIDENCE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191600.0

You have an outstanding bet (on top of the BFL charity bet) for 1000 BTC to user Runeks.

Is that enough evidence for you not to ignore my post?

Someone quote me, he might have me on ignore lol.

Ahh shit...someone is going for broke...


Gambling with funds is bad for buisness.

Mods, if these bets are not fulfilled, isn't it time for a scammer tag?

2000 BTC = 273,985.06679 USD

[smoothie]

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1000 BTC is chump change for him

Oh really?

Then why hasn't he made any effort to pay the debt?

[erk]

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BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.

Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

And you could have withheld those USD and ordered the BFL product when it was actually in stock instead of opting for a pre-order. Your money, your choice.

[bassclef]

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1000 BTC is chump change for him

Oh really?

Then why hasn't he made any effort to pay the debt?

Because he's not going to. He originally made the bet with the intention of making people believe BFL would be a good investment, since he was risking his reputation on it. And people fell for it. It accomplished its mission, don't waste your time.

[Inaba]

But there's a flaw in your plan bassclef (and PuertoRetard, Smoothie and Frizz) ... I settled up with Runeks more than a week ago.  Awww, too bad.  Guess you guys really are dumbasses.  Here's what I propose, you three idiots get a scammer tag for posting verifiable false information for the past several days, trying to scam people into believing that BFL is a scam, when in truth, you folks are just lying sacks of shit.

[smoothie]

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1000 BTC is chump change for him

Oh really?

Then why hasn't he made any effort to pay the debt?

Because he's not going to. He originally made the bet with the intention of making people believe BFL would be a good investment, since he was risking his reputation on it. And people fell for it. It accomplished its mission, don't waste your time.

It is not a waste of time:

SCENARIO HE PAYS 1000BTC:

He is now 1000 BTC short (whether it comes from his pocket or BFL customers' pockets)

SCENARIO HE DOESN'T PAY 1000 BTC:

He gets labeled a scammer (even if not literally) but figuratively because all who are watching on this forum will troll his ass about the bet HE NEVER PAID and COULDN'T BACK UP HIS BULLSHIT CLAIMS ON POWER/SPEED SPECS.

Either way it MATTERS and isn't a waste of time.

Time = Money

Customers gave BFL money 10 months ago = Customers gave BFL TIME 10 months ago.

Once again it isn't a waste of time pointing out this fact.

[smoothie]

But there's a flaw in your plan bassclef (and PuertoRetard, Smoothie and Frizz) ... I settled up with Runeks more than a week ago.  Awww, too bad.  Guess you guys really are dumbasses.  Here's what I propose, you three idiots get a scammer tag for posting verifiable false information for the past several days, trying to scam people into believing that BFL is a scam, when in truth, you folks are just lying sacks of shit.

PROVE IT.  TALK IS CHEAP ESPECIALLY SINCE YOUR TALK ON THE PREMISE OF YOUR BET WAS FALSE AND YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG LOL

[Xian01]

Guess you guys really are dumbasses ... in truth, you folks are just lying sacks of shit.

 Glass houses dude ! What the fuck man ?! Do you really lack that much self-awareness ? Good Christ !

[smoothie]

But there's a flaw in your plan bassclef (and PuertoRetard, Smoothie and Frizz) ... I settled up with Runeks more than a week ago.  Awww, too bad.  Guess you guys really are dumbasses.  Here's what I propose, you three idiots get a scammer tag for posting verifiable false information for the past several days, trying to scam people into believing that BFL is a scam, when in truth, you folks are just lying sacks of shit.

Your dealings =/= BFL dealings

Your bet with Runeks was never confirmed publicly to my knowledge which has nothing to do with BFL directly.

Or does it? If it does then you just outted yourself as having a huge conflict of interest. Are you using BFL funds to pay Runeks or was it preorder moniez?? Please clarify the FACTs for us all.

PROVE YOU SETTLED the BET.  

LOL fail again  

[smoothie]

The funny thing about Inaba is he is attempting to deflect based on no accusations that I have made.

Did I say he never paid? No.

In fact I even asked if someone could do the 24 power/speed test to finish the bet.

Nowhere did I ever claim that Inaba/Josh wasn't going to pay or didn't pay.

He calls me a "Lying sack of shit" when I haven't lied about anything on this topic of his bet with Runeks.

In fact I PMed Inaba and never got a response until just now. Which is fine.

What is bothersome is he continues to fling shit at us who ask questions and when we don't know the answer  he gives us the supposed answer (with no proof, so far) and calls us lying sacks of shit.

Defensive much?? lol

 

[bassclef]

But there's a flaw in your plan bassclef (and PuertoRetard, Smoothie and Frizz) ... I settled up with Runeks more than a week ago.  Awww, too bad.  Guess you guys really are dumbasses.  Here's what I propose, you three idiots get a scammer tag for posting verifiable false information for the past several days, trying to scam people into believing that BFL is a scam, when in truth, you folks are just lying sacks of shit.

I see that this bully never grew up. Does name calling really make you feel better about yourself?

When your units ship as promised you won't have to deal with us anymore. In the meantime, I suggest you take a close look at how you carry yourself in public and how it affects your company's image. Then think about how it affects your customers, and finally think about how it affects yourself.

[smoothie]

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Post evidence. Tired of people like you who make wild claims but are unable to back up their claims.  Thanks for playing though.

Post evidence that you paid and settled with Runeks your bet of 1000BTC.

We too are tired of your wild claims that you have not backed up with fact and evidence.

PROVE IT.  

[aeronautical]

Does anyone know what the delivery time is expected to be now if orded today? It seems to in constant flux.