Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order?

[PuertoLibre]

Does anyone know what the delivery time is expected to be now if orded today? It seems to in constant flux.

If you ask Customer Service at BFL they will tell you one thing.

If you ask the retarded Rep above, he will tell you what you want to hear.

If you ask us, we will tell you....it is a long wait.

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[Transisto]

One of my problem with BFL is that they delivered explanations for ~3 months worth of delays.

[LazyOtto]

I don't represent anything but myself here.

A false statement. In other words, a lie.

That ship sailed a long time ago.

And that is directly connected to the reason you owe me an apology. For causes which I fully documented at the time.

[ordy]

when you are 6 months late and 100% ROI has gone from hours to months during that 'gap' people have a right to bitch........

Hours lol, how much do you think BTC was worth 6mths ago to support you claim?

corrected to reflect days instead of hours.  still a long way away from the ROI it will be when/if regular customers are seeking it from the units that were promised to be delivered in october.

BTC was worth the same then as it is now, 1 BTC = 1 BTC.  meaning if one invested BTC to acquire a device that allows them 'produce' BTC then that is how their ROI would factor.

BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold, or even LTC as a comparison.

rrrrright.  rather than allow that tired arguement to distract from the issue here - it doesn't matter how one measures their own ROI as it is negative right now.  some metrics being more than others, but those that early pre-ordered and expected product 6 months ago are in a hole and it gets deeper by the day.  and since BFL has also blown their power numbers by a long shot it will take even longer to get out of the 'ROI hole'.

[ragingazn628]

Does anyone know what the delivery time is expected to be now if orded today? It seems to in constant flux.

If you ask Customer Service at BFL they will tell you one thing.

If you ask the retarded Rep above, he will tell you what you want to hear.

If you ask us, we will tell you....it is a long wait.

I like your new signature. Reverse Psyc.

[Tehfiend]

So much fail in the above post, I don't even know where to start.

I have an idea Tehfiend, if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

You never seem to know where to start with my posts do you? Don't worry, I had already moved my investment from BFL to Bitsyncom before I even learned about the nature of your character. You obviously have no intention of addressing any of the points I have made so good luck Josh. I hope BFL can succeed despite you...

[bitpop]

I'll pay 1800

[smoothie]

But there's a flaw in your plan bassclef (and PuertoRetard, Smoothie and Frizz) ... I settled up with Runeks more than a week ago.  Awww, too bad.  Guess you guys really are dumbasses.  Here's what I propose, you three idiots get a scammer tag for posting verifiable false information for the past several days, trying to scam people into believing that BFL is a scam, when in truth, you folks are just lying sacks of shit.

PROVE IT.  TALK IS CHEAP ESPECIALLY SINCE YOUR TALK ON THE PREMISE OF YOUR BET WAS FALSE AND YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG LOL

Oh how Josh goes silent when called out for the pansy he is.

Where is the proof Joshy-boy? 

[Henchman24]

Wow!  This thread really collapses in size when you have the entire "douche patrol" on ignore.    

Btw, I do need to thank the poster who said they are leaving mean ol' nasty Inaba for that "paragon of virtue", bitsyncom.  ROFLMFAO

That is fucking RICH!!     Thanks for the laugh!!

[Bicknellski]

Yes. You should.

[yxt]

yes, you should

[smoothie]

What is funny is that some people choose to ignore me because they can't handle the truth. That is utterly sad lol

[SLok]

After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg2100103#msg2100103

[wrenchmonkey]

After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg2100103#msg2100103

Hahaha! That's awesome. He wants to defame the company and do nothing but complain, but then he gets all butthurt when they tell him to take his business elsewhere!

"I hate you and your company so much, but don't you DARE tell me I can't buy your products!" The hypocrisy is overwhelming!

I have, as a business owner myself, had the wonderful satisfaction of telling the very rare disagreeable customer to take their money and get the fuck out. The reaction is always PRICELESS. You're not entitled to force me into an abusive customer/business relationship. If you're unhappy, I'll try and make you a happy customer. If you're going to be a prick, I'll save us both some time, and you can go be somebody else's problem.

99.999% of all of my customer interactions are amicable, and most 'dissatisfied' customers are easily turned into satisfied customers with very little effort, a little dialogue, and compromise on both sides. It doesn't always involve me giving exactly what they asked for in their complaint.

If I have a delay in being able to fill somebody's order, I give them a choice of a refund, or waiting it out. Regardless, the choice is in their hands. If they believe that my product is worth waiting for, they will. If not, they can seek other arrangements. Most rational human beings can understand that.

I have a customer who has been waiting on a $2900 order since September (This is a customer who orders $20,000 worth of products a year through me), when the original estimated delivery time was back in December. Every few weeks, I provide an update on the fact that I'm STILL waiting on a supplier to provide his order to me, and EVERY TIME I offer to refund him if he doesn't feel like waiting anymore. And EVERY TIME, he thanks me for the offer but chooses to continue with his order, as my price is competitive with everybody else, and he's not likely to get it much faster anywhere else. Keep in mind that due to government paperwork, that even AFTER his order gets to me, it will still be tied up in bureaucratic red tape for another 3-4 Months, even if it showed up TODAY.

If, for some reason, he started trolling forums and defaming my business, calling me a scammer, etc, etc. I would write him a refund check, PRONTO, and tell him that his customer privileges have been revoked. Then again, he's not an asshole, so I can't see this ever happening.

I fully support BFL's response to the idiots who want to go around trashing them, but also think they are entitled to continue to buy whatever they want from them. The world doesn't owe you anything. BFL doesn't owe you anything. Learn to watch what you say about people that you want to do business with, because business is a two-way street. You have the right to take your business elsewhere, but business owners have the right to send you packing as well. I love it when a company owner has the cajones to remind imbeciles of that fact from time to time.

The Westboro Baptist church went to a town near where I grew up one time, to spew their hate at whatever random event was happening that day (military funeral, I believe). Somebody cut 2 of their tires.

The WBCers drove all around town on 2 flat tires trying to find a tire shop to buy tires from. Every single tire shop they stopped at recognized them and told them they weren't worthy to be their customers.

They finally ended up going to Wal-Mart, who has no standards, and is used to interacting with trash, and got some tires. As far as I know, they've never been back to McAlester Oklahoma.

[muyuu]

If you want something that will ship timely, it's a lot more expensive: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204030.msg2132683

[jordaninthesky]

After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg2100103#msg2100103

Hahaha! That's awesome.

I don't know what your incentive is, but I can't think of any incentive of my own that would make someone want to express what I've expressed and not have experienced it.

I'm not here to prove anything to you directly, but I do believe my words should speak for themselves.  Maybe you think I recently ordered, and want everyone to believe BFL is a scam so BFL crashes and nobody gets their ASIC?  Maybe it's just personal, and me and Josh know each other outside of BFL?

Whatever the case, I'm disappointed by the outcome.

AREN'T YOU?

[PuertoLibre]

After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg2100103#msg2100103

Have I missed something Slok?

You keep linking to one of Jordans posts....what does that have to do with me? (enlighten me?)

I think you might be desperate at this point.

[PuertoLibre]

After PuertoLibre's fake avalon/dhl shipping notice, (yes, that low can someone's self esteem sink), this is a good joke too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg2100103#msg2100103

Hahaha! That's awesome. He wants to defame the company and do nothing but complain, but then he gets all butthurt when they tell him to take his business elsewhere!

"I hate you and your company so much, but don't you DARE tell me I can't buy your products!" The hypocrisy is overwhelming!

I have, as a business owner myself, had the wonderful satisfaction of telling the very rare disagreeable customer to take their money and get the fuck out. The reaction is always PRICELESS. You're not entitled to force me into an abusive customer/business relationship. If you're unhappy, I'll try and make you a happy customer. If you're going to be a prick, I'll save us both some time, and you can go be somebody else's problem.

99.999% of all of my customer interactions are amicable, and most 'dissatisfied' customers are easily turned into satisfied customers with very little effort, a little dialogue, and compromise on both sides. It doesn't always involve me giving exactly what they asked for in their complaint.

If I have a delay in being able to fill somebody's order, I give them a choice of a refund, or waiting it out. Regardless, the choice is in their hands. If they believe that my product is worth waiting for, they will. If not, they can seek other arrangements. Most rational human beings can understand that.

I have a customer who has been waiting on a $2900 order since September (This is a customer who orders $20,000 worth of products a year through me), when the original estimated delivery time was back in December. Every few weeks, I provide an update on the fact that I'm STILL waiting on a supplier to provide his order to me, and EVERY TIME I offer to refund him if he doesn't feel like waiting anymore. And EVERY TIME, he thanks me for the offer but chooses to continue with his order, as my price is competitive with everybody else, and he's not likely to get it much faster anywhere else. Keep in mind that due to government paperwork, that even AFTER his order gets to me, it will still be tied up in bureaucratic red tape for another 3-4 Months, even if it showed up TODAY.

If, for some reason, he started trolling forums and defaming my business, calling me a scammer, etc, etc. I would write him a refund check, PRONTO, and tell him that his customer privileges have been revoked. Then again, he's not an asshole, so I can't see this ever happening.

I fully support BFL's response to the idiots who want to go around trashing them, but also think they are entitled to continue to buy whatever they want from them. The world doesn't owe you anything. BFL doesn't owe you anything. Learn to watch what you say about people that you want to do business with, because business is a two-way street. You have the right to take your business elsewhere, but business owners have the right to send you packing as well. I love it when a company owner has the cajones to remind imbeciles of that fact from time to time.

The Westboro Baptist church went to a town near where I grew up one time, to spew their hate at whatever random event was happening that day (military funeral, I believe). Somebody cut 2 of their tires.

The WBCers drove all around town on 2 flat tires trying to find a tire shop to buy tires from. Every single tire shop they stopped at recognized them and told them they weren't worthy to be their customers.

They finally ended up going to Wal-Mart, who has no standards, and is used to interacting with trash, and got some tires. As far as I know, they've never been back to McAlester Oklahoma.

No clue where you guys are referencing from. The links you guys are using are not even mine or anything to do with me.

Keep trying though?

[PuertoLibre]

I skimmed,

I don't think I have ever posted in that section. All I saw was a wrenchmonkey getting bent over a table by other community members about his comments in support of BFL.

I guess blowing smoke is all you have left. Kinda sad....

Do you want me to post the joke DHL notice that shows Avalon delivering to BFL? Sure?

Here it is:



Was this what has got you all worked up, Slok? Is that the great controversy of smoke billowing from thy bottom?

This was posted by Josh weeks before I posted my joke post....

[Bicknellski]

So much fail in the above post, I don't even know where to start.

I have an idea Tehfiend, if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

You never seem to know where to start with my posts do you? Don't worry, I had already moved my investment from BFL to Bitsyncom before I even learned about the nature of your character. You obviously have no intention of addressing any of the points I have made so good luck Josh. I hope BFL can succeed despite you...

And... another former BFL customer... that seems like a trend.