Evolution is a hoax

[BADecker]

^^^ There's another of your concepts that doesn't exist. Evolution, also, is a concept that doesn't exist. Do you exist, or are you simply a concept that doesn't exist?

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[Astargath]

^^^ There's another of your concepts that doesn't exist. Evolution, also, is a concept that doesn't exist. Do you exist, or are you simply a concept that doesn't exist?

Concept: numbers

Physical object: glass

You can say glass didn't exist in xxxx

You cannot say numbers didn't exist in xxxx because numbers are a concept.

It's quite simple to understand really.

[BADecker]

^^^ Exactly what I have been saying about evolution. The theory is the concept. Evolution itself does not exist that anyone has found.

When people state that evolution is fact but know it isn't, they have turned it into a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ Exactly what I have been saying about evolution. The theory is the concept. Evolution itself does not exist that anyone has found.

When people state that evolution is fact but know it isn't, they have turned it into a hoax.

And yet at the same time you also typed senseless sentences like ''C&E and random didn't exist before the universe existed.'' Do you agree that your sentence is wrong / senseless?

[jak3]

I believe in the theory of evolution because to prove it they have observed a generation evolving into an improved one. but instead, they modified a DNA and started a new generation with it. so it worked in one direction. but I have seen many people who do not believe in the theory of evolution and yet they believe in god. stating that God made humans and monkeys.

[BADecker]

^^^ Exactly what I have been saying about evolution. The theory is the concept. Evolution itself does not exist that anyone has found.

When people state that evolution is fact but know it isn't, they have turned it into a hoax.

And yet at the same time you also typed senseless sentences like ''C&E and random didn't exist before the universe existed.'' Do you agree that your sentence is wrong / senseless?

Why is it senseless or wrong? C&E and the idea of pure random are things of the universe... similar to the idea of evolution.

C&E >>> Proven and used all over the place.
Pure random >>> Never found yet.
Evolution >>> Never found yet.

If the universe weren't caused, we could never say that there is a Great First Cause... God. Why not? We wouldn't be here.

[Astargath]

^^^ Exactly what I have been saying about evolution. The theory is the concept. Evolution itself does not exist that anyone has found.

When people state that evolution is fact but know it isn't, they have turned it into a hoax.

And yet at the same time you also typed senseless sentences like ''C&E and random didn't exist before the universe existed.'' Do you agree that your sentence is wrong / senseless?

Why is it senseless or wrong? C&E and the idea of pure random are things of the universe... similar to the idea of evolution.

C&E >>> Proven and used all over the place.
Pure random >>> Never found yet.
Evolution >>> Never found yet.

If the universe weren't caused, we could never say that there is a Great First Cause... God. Why not? We wouldn't be here.

Outside the universe - Never found yet.

[BADecker]

^^^ Because we are so universe minded, that we almost can't begin to think what outside the universe would be like.

Evolution people are talking about something they claim is within/part-of the universe. They haven't found evolution. When they say they have, knowing that they haven't, they are turning the evolution idea into a hoax.

[BADecker]

@ Astargath

Since I can out-talk your stuff regarding evolution, yet you don't believe me...

... why is it that evolutionists can out-talk your common sense, and you believe them?

Of course, the answer is that you want to believe the way you do. Evolution is a religion for you.

REAL evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ Because we are so universe minded, that we almost can't begin to think what outside the universe would be like.

Evolution people are talking about something they claim is within/part-of the universe. They haven't found evolution. When they say they have, knowing that they haven't, they are turning the evolution idea into a hoax.

''^^^ Because we are so universe minded, that we almost can't begin to think what outside the universe would be like.'' And yet you keep claiming it exists with 100% certainty 

[BADecker]

^^^ We have no other evidence than C&E. Nothing comes about without a cause. Therefore, since the universe exists, in universe language there was a cause - the Great First Cause - even though we don't know what that cause is like, or even if it was a cause regarding itself, that is, with relation to itself.

[Astargath]

^^^ We have no other evidence than C&E. Nothing comes about without a cause. Therefore, since the universe exists, in universe language there was a cause - the Great First Cause - even though we don't know what that cause is like, or even if it was a cause regarding itself, that is, with relation to itself.

Right but I'm talking about ''outside the universe''. You just admitted that we don't know if that exists but you keep using it in all your arguments freely like it's already a proven thing, isn't that illogical?

[BADecker]

^^^ The only way that "outside the universe" doesn't exist is in the fact that "existence" as we know it doesn't apply to "outside the universe." Outside-the-universe is so different that "exist" doesn't apply or not apply to it. In fact, different doesn't really apply to it either.

What does this mean? It means that logically, logic or lack thereof, don't apply to "outside the universe," either.

Now, what does any of that have to do with the fact that, evolution of the type proposed by evolution theory, is pure hoax?

[Astargath]

^^^ The only way that "outside the universe" doesn't exist is in the fact that "existence" as we know it doesn't apply to "outside the universe." Outside-the-universe is so different that "exist" doesn't apply or not apply to it. In fact, different doesn't really apply to it either.

What does this mean? It means that logically, logic or lack thereof, don't apply to "outside the universe," either.

Now, what does any of that have to do with the fact that, evolution of the type proposed by evolution theory, is pure hoax?

''What does this mean? It means that logically, logic or lack thereof, don't apply to "outside the universe," either.'' The thing is, you have to prove that ''outside the universe'' exists in the first place before giving it properties. Where is the evidence for ''outside the universe'' ?

[BADecker]

^^^ Find it over in the "Scientific proof the God exists" thread.

However, evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ Find it over in the "Scientific proof the God exists" thread.

However, evolution is a hoax.

I didn't, sorry, no evidence for ''outside the universe''

[BADecker]

^^^ Well, thanks for confirming that evolution is a hoax by continually avoiding the subject in its own thread.

[Astargath]

^^^ Well, thanks for confirming that evolution is a hoax by continually avoiding the subject in its own thread.

Thanks for admitting you don't know whether ''outside the universe'' is real or not, continuously proving that you are a hoax and you just make up definitions. No scientific evidence for ''outside the universe'' your argument is dead.

[newbie0506]

^^^ Well, thanks for confirming that evolution is a hoax by continually avoiding the subject in its own thread.

Thanks for admitting you don't know whether ''outside the universe'' is real or not, continuously proving that you are a hoax and you just make up definitions. No scientific evidence for ''outside the universe'' your argument is dead.

ROFL hahahaha! That made my day. 

[BADecker]

^^^ But nobody has proof for evolution theory evolution. And that is what this thread is really about. So, either you are hoaxers, or you are kind of ignorant.