TorCoin Is A Scam

[SysFailure0x5a]

But hey don't listen to me or the OP who did REAL research.. listen to the snotty little shit spouting off for random shitcoin ROI's.. because he's a sig campaign moderator !
Ooooh la la look out mother fuckers we got a fucking big shot in here ROFL

@OP
Random tidbit of info for you
2013 i did some poking around with some wallets and i found an interesting bit of info..
A lot of the wallets were all calling home to a specific IRC channel to allegedly a dev said to get nodes.
And it also made it easier to track some of them to the same dev.. because he used the same IRC channel etc.. pointing the finger at him for a crap load of clone coins on Cryptsy back then.
Who were all of course tied in closely with almost all the staff..
Made by the same scammy cunt who made CENT and shitloads of others.

I know about the IRC deal. It's the first thing I noticed when I inspected the TorCoin traffic. I caught it in the Wireshark packet capture. I also found the IRC Username and Password for the channel too. I logged in and watched all the nodes joining and leaving. I wrote down several IP addresses and even ran NMAP on a few of them. So, yeah. The TorCoin OP says you are untraceable. I found a central location where I can track all the connected nodes.  

You can see the IRC room with all the connected nodes here:



Honestly, that's all I need to say. Every claim they make about anonymity is completely fake.

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[ibminer]

But hey don't listen to me or the OP who did REAL research.. listen to the snotty little shit spouting off for random shitcoin ROI's.. because he's a sig campaign moderator !
Ooooh la la look out mother fuckers we got a fucking big shot in here ROFL

@OP
Random tidbit of info for you
2013 i did some poking around with some wallets and i found an interesting bit of info..
A lot of the wallets were all calling home to a specific IRC channel to allegedly a dev said to get nodes.
And it also made it easier to track some of them to the same dev.. because he used the same IRC channel etc.. pointing the finger at him for a crap load of clone coins on Cryptsy back then.
Who were all of course tied in closely with almost all the staff..
Made by the same scammy cunt who made CENT and shitloads of others.

I know about the IRC deal. It's the first thing I noticed when I inspected the TorCoin traffic. I caught it in the Wireshark packet capture. I also found the IRC Username and Password for the channel too. I logged in and watched all the nodes joining and leaving. I wrote down several IP addresses and even ran NMAP on a few of them. So, yeah. The TorCoin OP says you are untraceable. I found a central location where I can track all the connected nodes.  

You can see the IRC room with all the connected nodes here:



Honestly, that's all I need to say. Every claim they make about anonymity is completely fake.

https://i.imgur.com/Qjbz9ZT.jpg

Looks like the old DDoS botnets that would join IRC to receive commands from its operator. They were not really "bots" but infected machines that would join IRC and wait for commands on what IP to attack...

[vega4]

I've jumped on a sort of a rant like two weeks ago in their thread. never got any official response. looks like I was mostly right after all. they claim anonimity etc. while there is not a single thing improving anonimity. they just bundle their software with a tor relay. WHAT A LAZINESS. uneblievable. now it is ovious to me that the traded volumes must be fake; I mean operated with creator's cash.I mean who with a sane mind would trade into this?

[MaliceRed]

I'm surprised this thread has not grown more popular, do people not care? Or they only want to get paid from their campaigns.

[SysFailure0x5a]

I've jumped on a sort of a rant like two weeks ago in their thread. never got any official response. looks like I was mostly right after all. they claim anonimity etc. while there is not a single thing improving anonimity. they just bundle their software with a tor relay. WHAT A LAZINESS. uneblievable. now it is ovious to me that the traded volumes must be fake; I mean operated with creator's cash.I mean who with a sane mind would trade into this?

They don't even bundle the client with a tor relay. It does not use Tor at all. The Linux client that supposedly has Tor also fails to compile. None of the clients or nodes are using Tor.

[Spoetnik]

I doubt many seen this topic..
I am not sure how many users are supporting it either (guessing it's not a lot)

I see it this way.. even if the dev wanted to achieve a goal here.. he didn't !
And it then comes down to massive misrepresentation.
I don't like things like this that make users think they are secure when they are not.

This sums it up..



Problem is ..it's not integrated.
So where the fuck is the numerous innovations then ? 

[Shiroslullaby]

Seems pretty suspicious. Almost like the first stages of getting a CNC channel set up over IRC.
Definitely interested if anyone sees anything else weird over Wireshark/ NMAP etc.

[ibminer]

As I understand it:

Mac version == Not integrated with Tor
Windows version == Not integrated with Tor
Linux version == Not integrated with Tor
Github version (tor branch only) == integrated
Not developed yet - but I'll assume the iOS and Android versions will also not be integrated with Tor.

The majority of TorCoin releases, and all main branch releases, are not integrated and it is extremely misleading reading the OP or the website because everything revolves around its integration with Tor.

If the website and OP get changed to reflect the truth more clearly and I hear back from some of the companies I've contacted regarding possible false-positives on the windows version being detected as a trojan, I will consider modifying my feedback.

Comment above still stands. TorCoin is not integrated with Tor and I'm almost positive now that it is a scam. I'm at least confident enough to say nobody should trust this person or this coin.  

Don't worry though, the "creator" posted it will be integrated in 2 weeks. < This is sarcasm.

A good portion of the code is copied from "Nightmare" coin, also a SCAM:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740936.0
and linked to Shadowcoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741234.0
These were also linked to "Carsenk", same developer listed for the Torcoin github.


From the torcoin github commit history:  (a bunch of replacements renaming "Nightmare" to "Torcoin")





I've updated my feedback.

[ibminer]

Some more goodies that come from the Carson Klock collection of crap:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387500.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726111.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510913.0

Carsen
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128350

carsenk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

kingcarsen (new alt)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=860708

Update:
To try and keep the record straight, "carsenk" apparently left the development of TorCoin near the end of April because Tor didn't want them using the trademark & logo. I still wouldn't trust a coin started by him. He is still the only sole contributor to the TorCoin GitHub, so at this point I see him as being the primary developer.

[freeBogatov]

Is this you?  Either way, probably relevant on this thread

NOTICE :

Users of this forum should know the following;

(1) "Torcoin" has nothing whatsoever to do with the real Tor Project Inc.

In fact, the official Tor Project Inc has already publicly issued a warning regarding "Torcoin"

- https://twitter.com/torproject/status/857297306571481088

"@torproject Apr 26

Warning: @TheTorCoin is using our name and logo deceptively and without permission/approval. Their service is not endorsed by Tor."

Anyone reading this should also see: https://www.torproject.org/docs/trademark-faq.html

"Tor" and the "Onion Logo" are registered trademarks of The Tor Project, Inc.


(2) "Torcoin" is making 'false' claims in regards to their current (and only) software release: Version 1.0.0

(a) Despite claiming that; "Torcoin is fully integrated with the Tor project network", the current wallet software is not automatically running over the real Tor® network and therefore exposes the users real IP address on clearnet!

Note that almost any crypto-coin on this forum can be run over the real Tor® network by configuring the proxy settings to use a Tor® daemon as a SOCKS proxy.

(b) "Torcoin is 100% Anonymous, unlike Bitcoin.  Send & Receive payments with full privacy" - Note that "Stealth" addresses are not fully anonymous, in comparison to other anonymity technologies.

(c) "By running TorCoin, you are increasing the number of nodes on the TOR network, and thereby helping people across the world remain anonymous." Again, this claim is currently false.

Torcoin's existing wallet release does not run a real Tor® network node (Relay or Exit node) when the wallet is started. "Torcoin" software is therefore not currently able to reward actual Tor® network nodes operators, as they have also claimed.

...

As someone who has hosted real Tor® software Relay and Exit nodes for more than 10 years (and have also been using Bitcoin since the year dot), I feel obliged to make the above facts known.

~ Running genuine Tor® software nodes remains a thankless and mostly unrewarded task that I choose to undertake, as I believe in the right to privacy etc.,

Furthermore, the real Tor Project Inc has long considered trying to enable said incentive mechanism's for real relay and exit node operators and various research papers have already been published;

See: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-par-braids-lira-tears-and-torcoin

Note that the TorCoin paper mentioned is not the "TorCoin" of this forum thread!

...

Whilst the continuing development concept for a "TorCoin" maybe somewhat feasible - I fail to see how you can remedy the above situation.
  

agreed

As in the title I said that the developer of torcoin is working effectively for his coin to give it the success. I hope that it will be adopted widely and the community of this con will be more interesting.

What is your opinion about that struggle and about the coin?

maybe next time include some of the efforts that you think the developer is making so we can have some more information and not just your word.

also my thoughts is that why is there a trojan in the wallet download file?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1864282.msg19065197#msg19065197

also an open scam accusation against it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1920826

also there is a warning from Tor project because apparently they are abusing their logo and name!
https://twitter.com/torproject/status/857297306571481088

agree

Torcoin does support Tor .exit relays? How? We can raise $500 for year one hosting and freebogatov.org 50-50 split    donate from  torcoin.org good project


TorcoinFreeBogatov  RU
atlas.torproject.org/#details/5055DFEDFAA4B7134CDCE10776E911E5617776A6


Bitcoin 1NdPTtvkHdhzx2SUVnvx5TWdeNEC8cEjFn
Torcoin TCkE4YVWiHT6zEAr8q99oLfZXGuugekGB6

Dmitry Bogatov arrested by Russian authorities
bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926575.0

#freeBogatov   

edit found Torcoin is scam coin removed link from node announce    no support real Tor project

our server cause is real please support

DUMP fake TorCoin here TCkE4YVWiHT6zEAr8q99oLfZXGuugekGB6   

to support real Tor .exit nodes   

#freebogatov #KAction

[ibminer]

Since there seem to be people grasping at straws with this coin thinking there is going to be some 'android wallet' that the developer (whoever it is?) and the owner seem to be creating and it's "coming soon", it is worth noting:


It is asinine to think that Google is going to allow copyright infringement on their app store. You are not going to see any Torcoin android app.


https://play.google.com/about/ip-deception-spam/

Impersonation and Intellectual Property
We don’t allow apps or developer accounts that impersonate other entities, brands, or otherwise infringe on intellectual property rights of others (including trademark, copyright, patent, trade secret, and other proprietary rights). We also don’t allow apps that encourage or induce infringement of intellectual property rights.

We will respond to clear notices of alleged copyright infringement. For more information or to file a DMCA request, please visit our copyright procedures.

If you are a trademark owner and you believe there is an app on Google Play that infringes on your trademark rights, we encourage you to reach out to the developer directly to resolve your concern. If you are unable to reach a resolution with the developer, please submit a trademark complaint through this form.

If you have written documentation proving that you have permission to use a third party's intellectual property in your app or store listing (such as brand names, logos and graphic assets), contact the Google Play team in advance of your submission to ensure that your app is not rejected for an Impersonation or Intellectual Property violation.

If anyone thinks "Tor" is going to allow these guys to put out an android app for Torcoin, they are seriously delusional.

[Spoetnik]

@ibminer

Sounds about right to me.
If the other guys who own the name complain it will get pulled from the Play Store i think.

[888casino]

i was planing to invest a small amount in this coin..after reading all negatives comment...it seems this coin
has no future.

[Solrak]

it,s Tor a scam ,virus or neither?

And where is the problem ,
the wallet?
The coins?
How does it work if it is a virus?

thanks

[Spoetnik]

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Seen that SIG here..

I wonder if it is from the same guy(s) ?

more "integration"