The Barry Silbert segwit2x agreement with >80% miner support.

[Searing]

Keep using core 0.14.2 and wait till segwit is locked in and wait for many confirms on any transactions until then in case of chain reorganisations.

I'd like to add:

... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....

Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this. Even an SPV wallet is better! At least with those you own the private keys. If the exchanges have issues your coins could be locked away until they sort out their problems.

Anyone know what's up with some of the smaller pools like Kano, Slush? Are they going for BIP91 ?

I read someplace slush is doing it also ..as to the others don't know.

er...found it on the coinbase article..they say slush is on board.

http://www.coindesk.com/bip91-begins-bitcoins-miners-signal-segwit2x-scaling-proposal-early/

[allinvain]

Keep using core 0.14.2 and wait till segwit is locked in and wait for many confirms on any transactions until then in case of chain reorganisations.

I'd like to add:

... and for the love of all that is Bitcoin, take all of your BTC out of anywhere where you don't control the keys.....

Definitely do this too. Right now everyone should be pulling everything out of the exchanges they've been treating as banks.

It boggles the mind why people keep on doing this. Even an SPV wallet is better! At least with those you own the private keys. If the exchanges have issues your coins could be locked away until they sort out their problems.

Anyone know what's up with some of the smaller pools like Kano, Slush? Are they going for BIP91 ?

I read someplace slush is doing it also ..as to the others don't know.

er...found it on the coinbase article..they say slush is on board.

http://www.coindesk.com/bip91-begins-bitcoins-miners-signal-segwit2x-scaling-proposal-early/

Slush is a bit different cause he lets his users vote and choose which style of blocks to mine. I am guessing he means that everyone that voted for the "Let the pool decide" option will have their hashing power redirected towards BIP91 blocks. Still waiting to see a Slush BIP91 block.

Kano/CKPool are not supporting BIP91 it seems.

[-ck]

Both of my ckpools are on BIP91.

[allinvain]

Both of my ckpools are on BIP91.

Ah, okay, big thumb up! 

[ComputerGenie]

...Kano... are not supporting BIP91 it seems.

Given that Kano is anti-segwit, I can't imagine that he's going to pre-signal anything.

[allinvain]

...Kano... are not supporting BIP91 it seems.

Given that Kano is anti-segwit, I can't imagine that he's going to pre-signal anything.

I see. I did not know he was anti-segwit. Is there a thread or anywhere I can read why he takes this stance?

[ComputerGenie]

...Kano... are not supporting BIP91 it seems.

Given that Kano is anti-segwit, I can't imagine that he's going to pre-signal anything.

I see. I did not know he was anti-segwit. Is there a thread or anywhere I can read why he takes this stance?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0 << It's in there, somewhere amongst the 1350+ pages, and a few segwit-direct threads (but I don't remember which ones atm).

[JayJuanGee]

so this what will happen, it's really becoming a mess https://image.ibb.co/gh1wxv/Bitcoin_flowchart_2017.png

is it true that some miners are already mining the new fork or something?

No. The only evidence of mining activity is everyone switching to a BIP91 compatible client.

Does anyone have links or information concerning the supposed large number of BIP91 renditions?  Is there really a possibility that some might be more inclusive of the 2x portion of segwit 2x and others do not have that 2x portion in their code?

There's no way to tell from the blocks alone, but I can speak for at least 4 pools I know of that are running BIP91 only clients

You mean that there is going to be a kind of realization down the road that variations of BIP91 that end up activating are going to add up to 80% and assist in the creating of various mandates to signal for BIP141... but not have any kind of requirement beyond that, so when the segwit2x fucktards of the NYA try to say that the 2x portion of the NYA is mandated, they are not going to have reached the 80% threshold for proclaiming such a mandate.. and then they are going to whine again that folks had backed out of the NYA - even though they do not have either language of the NYA or signaling of what people actually did through BIP91

 - kind of like they did with their bastardization of their interpretation of the hong kong agreement to assert that they had been screwed by core when that had not happened?  whiners proclaiming victims, victims and a kind of repeated theme that they are not going to give up, even though they continue to lose credibility and reinforce their own lackings?

[Ethix]

Is Segwit2x BTU?

[mindrust]

Is Segwit2x BTU?

Nope.

Segwit2x is Segwit with the hopes of becoming BU in one day.

[JayJuanGee]

 Well I'm seeing this..perhaps there will be no forks

 https://coin.dance/blocks

OK - looks like miners colluded (intention)  down to about 90% and choose SW2x - question: what have nodes to do now ?

Keep using core 0.14.2 and wait till segwit is locked in and wait for many confirms on any transactions until then in case of chain reorganisations.

Do you have some kind of website in which you feel confident determining from the information contained therein the moment that segwit is locked in?  It is the 229 or the last 336 blocks question, right?  As mentioned here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2027513.msg20205033#msg20205033

[allinvain]

https://www.xbt.eu/

[Minecache]

https://www.xbt.eu/

88.1%

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

@-ck what client you running? Bitnodes shows only 64 btc1 clients while BIP91 is almost 65% at xbt.eu. Almost no one is running Garzik's client just signaling BIP91 it seems.

[JayJuanGee]

https://www.xbt.eu/

Thanks Allinvain...

What a dummy I am.  I had seen that site, and then for some reason I had not realized about the lock-in information that is contained on there.  I'm going to keep a tab and refresh screen open on this one. 

[BrewMaster]

@-ck what client you running? Bitnodes shows only 64 btc1 clients while BIP91 is almost 65% at xbt.eu. Almost no one is running Garzik's client just signaling BIP91 it seems.

signalling means changing a variable. this variable is the block version.
to support BIP91 which SegWit2x implemented you change that variable to 0x20000010 and to support more than one BIP you add the bits to this number for example to support both SegWit2x (BIP91) and SegWit you change it to 0x20000012 (addition of bit 1 and bit 4 if i am not mistaken)
SegWit alone is 0x20000002

for these stuff you don't need to run a specific client, you just edit a single line of code.

you may also run btc1 client and change your useragent to something different to mask the fact that you are running that client, maybe to protect against getting DDoSed

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

Thanks @BrewMaster

[ComputerGenie]

...you may also run btc1 client and change your useragent to something different to mask the fact that you are running that client...

Precisely the reason that most counts don't count.  

[-ck]

signalling means changing a variable. this variable is the block version.
to support BIP91 which SegWit2x implemented you change that variable to 0x20000010 and to support more than one BIP you add the bits to this number for example to support both SegWit2x (BIP91) and SegWit you change it to 0x20000012 (addition of bit 1 and bit 4 if i am not mistaken)
SegWit alone is 0x20000002

for these stuff you don't need to run a specific client, you just edit a single line of code.

you may also run btc1 client and change your useragent to something different to mask the fact that you are running that client, maybe to protect against getting DDoSed

No. Changing just one bit is not enough to be safe with the BIP91 fork because part of running BIP91 means orphaning any blocks that aren't signalling segwit once support is over 80%

@-ck what client you running? Bitnodes shows only 64 btc1 clients while BIP91 is almost 65% at xbt.eu. Almost no one is running Garzik's client just signaling BIP91 it seems.

I run a custom coin daemon but the extra code for BIP91 comes from here:
https://github.com/segsignal/bitcoin

[allinvain]

Slush started signalling SW in case anyone is wondering.