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August 20, 2013, 04:31:12 PM
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Has this ever been sold? If yes, for what price?
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August 20, 2013, 08:12:06 PM
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If yes post tx link  Wink
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August 21, 2013, 01:42:49 PM
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curious on the price myself.

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August 24, 2013, 07:52:38 AM
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Clearly OP died in a terrible bitcoin related accident.

Nothing to see here people, move along

Bro, do you even blockchain?
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August 24, 2013, 01:16:02 PM
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Clearly OP died in a terrible bitcoin related accident.

Nothing to see here people, move along

What happened?  He walked outside and bitcoin fell from the sky and killed him?

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August 31, 2013, 07:43:34 PM
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That house... That haunted house..

Best for shooting "The Grudge Part 4"

lol joke. Goodluck dude.
I wish i can buy lol but i'm Indian Tongue

But of course. How could we all forget that infamous German law that forbids Indians from buying their property.


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September 11, 2013, 03:54:06 PM
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Has this ever been sold? If yes, for what price?

No the house is not sold, but have had offers in the real world on it which are being considered!

As to the comments I keep seeing that I 'died' some people have jobs that take them far away from the internet you know, I can't just be sat in front of a PC my whole life, and if something comes along that is worth monitoring then I will but so far I'm a bit unimpressed with the seriousness of people here so, please forgive me if I vanish for stretches of time Smiley

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September 11, 2013, 04:10:06 PM
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Appreciate your checking in.  Good luck with your efforts.

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September 21, 2013, 03:49:37 AM
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The solution to your problem is doing an auction the way it done in the real world for real estate.

Each person who wants to participate in the auction has to place a deposit with the auction house (or escrow) ahead of time. Usually this amount is $10,000 USD.

The deposit ensures only serious bidders participate, and in the event a winner does not pay the winning bid they placed, they forfeit their deposit.

Work great in the real world, should work great in the Bitcoin world Cheesy





As far as anonymity and buying real estate, I know in Germany a GmbH has been used for hundreds of years to own real estate in an anonymous fashion.

A GmbH is the equivalent to an LLC here in the USA.


People purchase real estate anonymously every day in the USA and around the world Cool
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October 15, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
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The solution to your problem is doing an auction the way it done in the real world for real estate.

Each person who wants to participate in the auction has to place a deposit with the auction house (or escrow) ahead of time. Usually this amount is $10,000 USD.

The deposit ensures only serious bidders participate, and in the event a winner does not pay the winning bid they placed, they forfeit their deposit.

Work great in the real world, should work great in the Bitcoin world Cheesy





As far as anonymity and buying real estate, I know in Germany a GmbH has been used for hundreds of years to own real estate in an anonymous fashion.

A GmbH is the equivalent to an LLC here in the USA.


People purchase real estate anonymously every day in the USA and around the world Cool

I am of course guessing that was a joke post.....

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October 15, 2013, 01:40:07 AM
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"Needs a little bit of work"
I think this is a joke. A little bit of work should include complete remove old house and build a new one.

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October 15, 2013, 01:16:38 PM
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"Needs a little bit of work"
I think this is a joke. A little bit of work should include complete remove old house and build a new one.

which to some people is a little bit of work and to others a mind boggling, incomprehensible task. Its all in the eye of the beholder. I would rather do what you suggested than do the washing up or the laundry but thats just me

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October 15, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
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are you really the bitcoin_bob @OP?  Shocked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlvG18AcCo

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November 16, 2013, 12:50:57 AM
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are you really the bitcoin_bob @OP?  Shocked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlvG18AcCo

No, actually I am not this guy.

The next high bid on the house wins the auction, I'd like to get this over and done with!

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November 21, 2013, 05:43:32 PM
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are you really the bitcoin_bob @OP?  Shocked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlvG18AcCo

No, actually I am not this guy.

The next high bid on the house wins the auction, I'd like to get this over and done with!

What exactly would be a "high bid"?

What would you do with a house in Germany? Its already below 0° here.
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i also can´t see what the current bid is? how should I give up a bid without knowing who is ahead at the moment?

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i also can´t see what the current bid is? how should I give up a bid without knowing who is ahead at the moment?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199199.0

As I say my auctions because a bit of a mess, but really my fault as I took my eye off the ball for other things.

This particular house is not currently for sale, it is the other house.

For those of you who have just joined us, This is a continuation of the 10BTC starting auction for a whole freehold house in Ichstedt, Germany.

The original post can be found here;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196368.0 for those of you that want to follow.

My biggest mistake last time was not providing enough information, so, I am going to provide as much as I can now to avoid spamming of the thread.

OK so here we go:

This is a full HOUSE for sale in Germany, in the village Ichstedt and in the state of Thuringia.

The house is 245KM from Kreuzberg, Berlin, where you can buy a beer for bitcoin Smiley

It is also only 350KM from Prague.

Its major cities surrounding are Halle, @ 74km away, and Leipzig @116KM away.

About the house itself:

It has 74M2 of living space with 4 bedrooms, a basic kitchen. Attic and basement space not included in that. It also has an outbuilding, a garage and another outside cellar, making up a total of 180m2 enclosed space.

The plot is exactly 451m2 according to the deed. It is a triangular parcel bordering a canal which can be seen in the photos.

It is not leaky. There is water, gas and electric connections to the house. It has not been renovated since before dinosaurs walked the earth, so if you don’t want to live like a caveman I would suggest new kitchen, bathroom, and rewire the whole house plus a good paint job and sand the floors and doors. The windows are all (on last inspection) not broken and doors are secure. The garage has a nice overhead door and just needs cleaning out and is ready to park your car/campervan or caravan to stay in whilst you renovate the house.

Basically to sum up the property condition; Watertight and connected to all facilities, renovation project. This is built from STONE and wood beams in circa 1830 and it is still here now. This is a solid house.

I am going to say this SIX times to prevent confusion.

THIS HOUSE IS NOT LISTED.
THIS HOUSE IS NOT UNDER ANY MONUMENT PROTECTION.
THIS HOUSE IS NOT DENKMALSCHUTZ!
THIS HOUSE IS NOT A HISTORICAL PROPERTY
THIS HOUSE IS SUBJECT TO ONLY NORMAL BUILDING REGULATIONS.

And finally……

THIS HOUSE IS NOT BLOODY DENKMALSCHUTZ!


The location: a very picture postcard village, ideal if you want to get away from it all or start again. The internet connections in Germany are OK, this village will get an 8MB connection and maybe a 20MB connection so if you are someone who works without geographical ties this could be your biggest adventure yet.


TAXES:

Property taxes currently stand at 120 euros a year and 55 euros for water runoff (usage of the sewer system by the gutters on the house). This will go up if occupied; how much to I do not know. But not a lot, German habitation taxes are very, very affordable.

Legal fees; Will be 2.5% of the declared price on sale, plus lawyers fees and notary fees of ABOUT 500 euros, give or take. As pointed out before, Notary fees are fixed in Germany on a scale depending on the cost of the transaction. However lawyers fees are not. So depending on how much escrowing/power of attorneying/messing round we do, depends on the final legal costs. All to be borne by the buyer, on top of your bid. 500 euros will need to be sent as a deposit to the Notary dealing with the sale, before any legal work can commence.

Pictures of the house:

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AUCTION RULES

The auction stats at 10 BTC and has no reserve. Bidding is in increments of at least 1BTC, but if you say have a total balance of 111.15 btc and you want to throw the lot at me then I will accept it, as long as the previous bid was LESS than 110.

This auction thread is for BIDS ONLY. Questions can be posted on the original thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196368.0

and I suggest if you have the time to read the thread as I think all points have now been covered.

ESCROW

I WILL ACCEPT ESCROW. This is how it will happen.

1.   You win and send a deposit of 500 euros to the notary in Germany.
2.   On confirmation of the deposit, a ‘purchase agreement’ is sent to you signed to show we accept your bid. You then sign the agreement to say you legally agree to buy the house. You then post original to the notary, and send a scan copy to us. You will also need to sign a ‘POA’ for the notary to act on your behalf, at your local german consul, or go to Germany. I suggest you check where the nearest German consul is before getting too involved here- if they are 1000 miles away and you are not prepared to go to them, this deal is not going to work. 
3.   the deal is now legal, the notary will begin the transfer of title. You will pay the owed funds in BTC to the escrow champion who will also convert them to Euros. You will be responsible for the escrow fees.
4.   we will send a certificate of ‘all payments received’ to the escrow champion, signed and notarized. This document, when given to the German notary, is irrevocable proof that you have paid for the property and we will have no way whatsoever after that and the purchase and sale agreement has been given to the notary, to prevent the property being registered into your name.
5.   the escrow champion transfers the funds to us and sends the certificate of payment received, via registered mail, at the same time.

VIEWING ETC

If you want to view the property in the next 3 days, then contact me with your name, and ID and I will authorize you to visit and tell the local police station/neighbours you are going to be there. This will prevent your arrest. Any damage done by you will be reported to the police for criminal damage. I have to say this, because apparently the motto of this forum is ‘trust no one’ so I am trying to get into the spirit of it.

SPAMMING OF THE AUCTION

Again I ask you to post all questions and comments here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196368.0

as otherwise the auction just gets too confusing for people to follow.

AUCTION FINISH:

Auction finishes at 00:00 GMT Sunday 12th May 2013, however if bids come in with half an hour to go, I will extend the auction by half an hour. When there has been no activity for half an hour the auction is finished.

PM OFFERS:

I have had several PM offers but only public offers will be considered bids.

PAYMENT AND AUCTION FINISHING:

Payment to the notary to be instigated Monday and balance sent to escrow the same.

PUBLICITY:

I will continue, for the voyeurs amongst us, to update people on how the sale is going. I would like, but hold no duty, for the buyer to continue to do the same to show that such a deal really can happen. I have been contacted by the press for an interview, already interested in this sale but I have declined at this time to respect the privacy of the future owner of the property, as I don’t have the right to broadcast this sale too much, they might not want their house in the paper. I would ask any press members to respect their privacy also unless they so choose to give statement. If they are interested in press publicity I am happy to give statement myself but only in co-operation with the future buyer.

OK then…..back to the auction we go, round II. Lets see what happens!











So open to bids on it.

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