ANN [DENT] Dent: Tokenizing and Liberating the World's Mobile Data

[Adykingcity]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

[kraterion]

they explained it, they need a lot of liquidity in coins for a project like that (market is really large, better like this than have people go lost for using tiny amounts like 0.0000003 dent for a data sell)

[andreibi]

Coin supply is irrelevant. Only noobs get fooled. 42 Coin is only 42 coins, but it's traded under 8 decimals. Blackbytes and IOTA have massive supplies and traded using giga as a unit.

It's the amount of money that funnels in and growth potential that are important.

[wahyuagung26]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

In my opinion, coin with big supply and low price very nice for long term, so i will hold this coins for 2 or 3 years,, but this is just my opinion sir 

[micle222]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

In my opinion, coin with big supply and low price very nice for long term, so i will hold this coins for 2 or 3 years,, but this is just my opinion sir  

1 to 2 years you hold, and the third year dentcoin delist from the exchanger.   |just Kididing|  
Good Luck! 

[NathanJB]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

Try to consider the value also sire. 400,000 dents are equal to 1 Etherium only. They just want to spread some large volume of the coin.

I think the number of dents won't matter anymore. Large volume but low value coins.

[qiman]

The supply does not matter, only the quality of the project is what will make it successful. You may have a coin with only few million supply and it may completely flop. I have some faith that this may be a successful project with good out come.

[bustedsynx]

Any updates from the devs or at least a press release? 

[zidanw]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

Try to consider the value also sire. 400,000 dents are equal to 1 Etherium only. They just want to spread some large volume of the coin.

I think the number of dents won't matter anymore. Large volume but low value coins.

And the maximum dent coin issued at crowdsale is 70,000,000,000 dent equivalent to 175,000 eth not yet calculated with the bonus it is still reasonable for the max achievement in the ico project.

[disconnectme]

they explained it, they need a lot of liquidity in coins for a project like that (market is really large, better like this than have people go lost for using tiny amounts like 0.0000003 dent for a data sell)

I still don't understand why some people are only interested in the face value of tokens, what you should be interested in the market cap of the project. Ripple has billion of tokens in circulation and many locked up, but it is number 3 on the coin market cap. Another advantage of tokens like this is that it will be difficult to move the price any how by price manipulator

[bittraffic]

I wonder how much are they giving per stake to their signature campaign. It would be something great to have about 500K of the token for participating signature campaign. Although I'm not part of the campaign though. But I have joined the social media campaign. The supply I think is good for huge market.

[tsg]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

Try to consider the value also sire. 400,000 dents are equal to 1 Etherium only. They just want to spread some large volume of the coin.

I think the number of dents won't matter anymore. Large volume but low value coins.

And the maximum dent coin issued at crowdsale is 70,000,000,000 dent equivalent to 175,000 eth not yet calculated with the bonus it is still reasonable for the max achievement in the ico project.

So what will happen with unsold tokens?
Will it be any early bird bonuses in this crowdsale?

[target]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

Try to consider the value also sire. 400,000 dents are equal to 1 Etherium only. They just want to spread some large volume of the coin.

I think the number of dents won't matter anymore. Large volume but low value coins.

And the maximum dent coin issued at crowdsale is 70,000,000,000 dent equivalent to 175,000 eth not yet calculated with the bonus it is still reasonable for the max achievement in the ico project.

So what will happen with unsold tokens?
Will it be any early bird bonuses in this crowdsale?

Large volume of coins but low value just like dogecoin I think is actually a good choice of coin to trade, just think about how much you can gain with just a movement of value with a $cent. Having a million of DENT will be a good profit with just few cents.

[kraterion]

Why is dev so sick?
They make a supply of coins up to 100,000,000,000
It's a very painful amount, really sick, what's behind you making this much coin?

Try to consider the value also sire. 400,000 dents are equal to 1 Etherium only. They just want to spread some large volume of the coin.

I think the number of dents won't matter anymore. Large volume but low value coins.

And the maximum dent coin issued at crowdsale is 70,000,000,000 dent equivalent to 175,000 eth not yet calculated with the bonus it is still reasonable for the max achievement in the ico project.

So what will happen with unsold tokens?
Will it be any early bird bonuses in this crowdsale?

Large volume of coins but low value just like dogecoin I think is actually a good choice of coin to trade, just think about how much you can gain with just a movement of value with a $cent. Having a million of DENT will be a good profit with just few cents.

Not only that, also low fees in dollars with transactions (just like dogecoin as you said)

[FaranSan]

I have joined signature campaign
Hopefully ico sales will run smoothly until the end

[disconnectme]

I wonder how much are they giving per stake to their signature campaign. It would be something great to have about 500K of the token for participating signature campaign. Although I'm not part of the campaign though. But I have joined the social media campaign. The supply I think is good for huge market.

Is not possible to earn that much in the campaign, alot of people are carrying the signature, the amount of tokens doesn't count it is the final worth value in market that do count

[andreibi]

I read your whitepaper, the idea is interesting but how is this supposed to work?

You are trying to offer something that you have no control over, namely unused mobile data traffic.
What leverage do you have over telecom providers?

How are you going to convince them to open their data links to users from abroad just because they have some DENT?
Are you hoping to form a massive userbase which is supposed to pressure their mobile providers to implement DENT?
How are you going to achieve a massive userbase without any funcionallity in the beginning?

What should incentivise telekom providers to use DENT? 33 milion is peanuts for Deutsche Telekom or Verizon. I guess the cost of implementing is higher than that? And if this ever becomes something that market strongly demands why wouldn't telekom providers come up with their own solutions and sideline yours?

It would be interesting to know what the team about this project can tell...

And answering this: "And if this ever becomes something that market strongly demands why wouldn't telekom providers come up with their own solutions and sideline yours?"

Telekom providers won't show any type of these solutions, because their paradigma, way of thinking or the way they see things is not about bringing this type of solutions to mobile users, their goal is to make profits, make money, that's their main focus and goal. In order to achieve something like this, there is the need to think beyond this mentality that most people working in a corporation have these days.

Hi,

Telcos could of course come up with island solutions for their own user base, in fact some telcos have already provided some sort of data pooling or roll-over to the next month, however with DENT we are bridging across operators, and we are providing a platform which scales and removes the need for each and every operator to provide their own. DENT will provide simple integration to the telcos and the telco’s users are ready to go.

Cheers, Mikko

Mikko is not active here in Bitcointalk. I don't know how these people accomplish getting the word out on Dent.

[Lyd]

Do you know how many are left for crowdsale? In eth please?

[kerneloops]

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Mikko is not active here in Bitcointalk. I don't know how these people accomplish getting the word out on Dent.

I think TokenMarket handles their social media; though the Slack & Telegram channels are kinda quiet, a dozen or so posts/comments per day. I also think the ICO will not be the only source of funding for the project and that they'll be seeking large(er) investors pretty soon. Not sure how future marketing will be handled, but if they bring big(ger) money, I'd assume they'll ramp up the marketing as well. Just a hunch.

Mikko and his core team have a shitton of biz and project experience outside of crypto, yet have just ventured on to crypto and especially ICO's. I was asking myself, if this is such a revolutionary concept, why not just seek VC funding and be done with it? Why fumble around with small donations when you could just score $10 mil of Series A funding? And the answer is, I think, with a token sale and subsequent Dent app, Dent can demonstrate to a telco (hopefully a large) number of users wanting their data liberated. Can't do that if you have 1-2 large investors giving you cash.

Unlike the "normal" ICO's I don't think Dent's purpose for the ICO is to create massive hype (TenX) or raise an insane amount of cash (EOS) -- though I have to admit the 152K ETH cap is pretty fecking huge --- but rather, bring on users at a gradual pace; again because the point of the ICO is not create inflated prices or a pump and dump. Many of us look for those under the radar projects with small a cap, low number of tokens, for that 20x, 50x return. I don't think you'll achieve that with Dent. You should get onboard because you believe this actually solves a *current* problem, and not just for cryptoenthusiasts, not because you expect DENT to be worth 10x in 6 months.

Per Mikko's comment on Dent's Telegram group, the first telco should be onboard late this year. So while I'd like to see more activity here, and social media in general, I don't think the project is in any jeopardy of moving forward.

I'm long on this one.

[kerneloops]

Do you know how many are left for crowdsale? In eth please?

Presale ends tomorrow (min. 20ETH contribution), after which it becomes a token sale with no minimum contribution amount. So far just shy of 14k ETH sold of the 152,000ETH hard cap.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x6d997edca04282950416fa380d834f360fc36ebb

edit: presale ends today 7/11 at 23:59 GMT+1 London Time