[Closed] AVALON CHIPs @0.082BTC + K16 Miner Assembly 60EUR

[Japs2013]

refund received, thanks!

[Rawbit]

I've ordered 160 chips from bizwoo directly - paid 18.4 BTC
Yesterday I received 12.5 BTC from John K.
Bizwoo please review my order and pay back rest of my BTC.

Thanks!

[jerboa]

I've ordered 160 chips from bizwoo directly - paid 18.4 BTC
Yesterday I received 12.5 BTC from John K.
Bizwoo please review my order and pay back rest of my BTC.

Thanks!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the refund was for 0.07821 BTC per chip regardless of how much was paid. Look at it optimistically that you didn't end up with worthless chips in the end.

[PieterEr]

Bizwoo please review my order and pay back rest of my BTC.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the refund was for 0.07821 BTC per chip regardless of how much was paid. Look at it optimistically that you didn't end up with worthless chips in the end.

Not necessarily. Hath Bizwoo said:

If the auction was mine then I will give you the difference between what you paid in the auction and the 0.082. This, I will do once we get the refund.

[bizwoo]

Bizwoo please review my order and pay back rest of my BTC.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the refund was for 0.07821 BTC per chip regardless of how much was paid. Look at it optimistically that you didn't end up with worthless chips in the end.

Not necessarily. Hath Bizwoo said:

If the auction was mine then I will give you the difference between what you paid in the auction and the 0.082. This, I will do once we get the refund.

This is correct. I will do as I said before for anyone that bought chips directly from me. I was away and I was not able to do it yet. But will probably start refunding today or the latest tomorrow.

Cheers.

[Fishbones]

My final thoughts for this GB and note to self for future reference.


Totally unethical for the GB organizer to profit from this "ordeal". As with other GB organizers, no fees should've been kept (Zefir) or at least ask the people in the group if they wanted to give the GB fee or a tip for services rendered.

Due to whatever reason, GB organizer was absent from this thread at a critical time when action had to be taken in order for the refund to be properly requested and successful. This was only possible through the efforts of John K, the GB escrow.

Ignores PM and thread queries.

Winners in this Group Buy:
Bizwoo:
21.5BTC Fees for GB#1 only.
60 Free Avalon Sample chips value 4.92BTC
Total= 26.42BTC (~2600EURO)

John K:
Deserves the 2% escrow fees. Firstly for offering such a service and secondly for the efforts in requesting and refunding operations.

Cheers.

[bizwoo]

Anyone received already refund for GB2 ?


I received for GB1 but missing for GB2.

GB1
1LJiC5hmBY7EWrWzfq3NUcsJj4J5HMYcT8   48   3.754080 tr: c70b36354f66917c781f5c5bffcae017b4eccf6ef4da2a3476ae3fd5d04a5401

GB2
1LJiC5hmBY7EWrWzfq3NUcsJj4J5HMYcT8   16   1.251360 tr:

Thx.

Hi darkfriend77

GB2
1LJiC5hmBY7EWrWzfq3NUcsJj4J5HMYcT8   16   1.251360 tr: https://blockchain.info/tx/f6c82cfe5471f6d4e516d5aa3da3aec4656fd8bcd9466c52050a21513bb0a3f8

Your address is there for the 1.25136.

Search  https://blockchain.info/address/1LJiC5hmBY7EWrWzfq3NUcsJj4J5HMYcT8  for 'Public Note: Refund for Bizwoo's 2nd order https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHDrDoprzirdGlqSkNhdUhnRktqU0RoNlVPLVdYSUE#gid=0'

Thanks...

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Winners in this Group Buy:
Bizwoo:
21.5BTC Fees for GB#1 only.
60 Free Avalon Sample chips value 4.92BTC
Total= 26.42BTC (~2600EURO)

Cheers.

Thanks for your opinion... Even if I do not agree I do take it on board. Nevertheless, only me and others GB organizers know what this meant for us.

However, I do not like lies. 54 sample chips, corresponding to our group buys, were sent over to nekonos. This is his only payment for all the time he invested and even the money he spent on parts for the protos, etc. And after John k's fees, which I am glad you agree that he deserves, I did not even got the 2% of fees for the chips on neither of the GB (simple maths). In addition, I, the same as you, also put money for buying chips and also had to pay for John K fees as anyone else, etc.

Anyway, I am glad that this nightmare has finished and that most people is happy with the outcome.

 

   

[Rawbit]

Thanks a lot bizwoo. Received my refund. Take care and till next time!

[Fishbones]

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Winners in this Group Buy:
Bizwoo:
21.5BTC Fees for GB#1 only.
60 Free Avalon Sample chips value 4.92BTC
Total= 26.42BTC (~2600EURO)

Cheers.

Thanks for your opinion... Even if I do not agree I do take it on board. Nevertheless, only me and others GB organizers know what this meant for us.

However, I do not like lies. 54 sample chips, corresponding to our group buys, were sent over to nekonos. This is his only payment for all the time he invested and even the money he spent on parts for the protos, etc. And after John k's fees, which I am glad you agree that he deserves, I did not even got the 2% of fees for the chips on neither of the GB (simple maths). In addition, I, the same as you, also put money for buying chips and also had to pay for John K fees as anyone else, etc.

Anyway, I am glad that this nightmare has finished and that most people is happy with the outcome.
  

Lies!? Where exactly did i lie?

60chips or 54 chips ... They are still valued at GB price, ie., 0.082x60=4.92BTC. (30 samples per batch) or 4.42BTC for 54 chips. (6 chips missing?).
You "gave" them to nekonos for his efforts. Fine. But they still have a value, not so?

So lets take away the chips and do the simple, but more precise maths for the rest:

I received less 0.7268BTC. Break that up and we get:
A fixed and known fee of 2% for John K = 0.314BTC.
The rest for bizwoo, work out to 2.6% = 0.409BTC.

Total fees received for GB#1:
Bizwoo = 21.32BTC
JohnK = 16.4BTC.

And this is it for me in this thread. My 0.409BTC I consider lost here may be insignificant to most, but I just want to make a point that it is unethical business practice to profit from this situation without GB member consent. ( And I'm a tight-ass  )

Goodbye!