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July 27, 2017, 11:29:21 AM
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Guys...my community just tested the local number that is used in our country...

We called that number, and a Man answered with no clue whats going on...and he is going to police to report that his number is beeing used for calling....

LOL. You should first study the technical part, and then write. Now someone's number can not be used for calls. This will be available only after the ICO, when people themselves will want to rent their number. One more hater is detected  Grin
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July 27, 2017, 11:40:30 AM
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We are already at a low start, we will be happy to participate in the ICO. Team ziber, good luck to you and thank you for the work done. I hope you will continue to please us with your good product and opportunities for earning.

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July 27, 2017, 11:45:07 AM
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i had read this whitepaper and feeling that is great project if it can successful
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July 27, 2017, 11:50:52 AM
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Gleb Gamow, and WHAT are you?.. Why are u printing this SHIT?.. Because someone paid u?..Just ICO will show EVERYTHING.You are just a big mouth,  but u should shut it up, and quickly. Guys are working HARD on the Project. People will find out themselves to join or not .
 
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July 27, 2017, 11:55:04 AM
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Greetings everyone!

Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...

From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)

Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
 
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not

even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD

So, what is the "cause" of claims?

Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.

Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)

If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
 
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?

And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.


What is the Tokenmarket.net?

LATO: Liquidity Asset Token  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net

creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
 
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!

Who these trolls/manipulators are?

The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:

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  rise
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $


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  Humaniq
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $

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  Cryptoforecast
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$

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His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.


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Gleb Gamov

1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a

license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160


2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264

3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625


4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767


5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616

6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html

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I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!

We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time!  


There is a simple rule. Watching project writing issues and then again look. Not find answers to most questions - close the topic. Here you see matters less than answers. I believe in this software  Wink
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July 27, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
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It will be too funny when Ziber coin will increase. and you will be still eating your popcorn and saying that everything is a scam Grin Grin Grin Grin
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July 27, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
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"Token Sale

CONTRACT ADDRESS:

0xF76afA05637dF5574D019528dD36EFCa7f6eE212

(View contract address at Etherscan) Contract Source Code Verified

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The Smart Contract starts receiving finds 27.07.2017 12:00 GMT
Allfunds sent earlier will be rejected by the Smart Contract and will be sent back.

'Send only ETH. Sat Gas Limit to 250 000. Do not send funds from exchanges!"

seriously?? do you think people will fall for your scam

the correct address is 0xf0a924661b0263e5ce12756d07f45b8668c53380

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July 27, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
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July 27, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
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Well what does the grammar have to do with the case. The main thing is that the product was good and worked as it should. I follow the project with pleasure!

Odd, how most, if not all those fond of Ziber pen similarly, eh?


"I see patterns!"


And about the code. I suppose that it was made to protect it from clones till the product isn't ready in its full version.


Yep, in some alternate universe, is = isn't.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




I admit that it was my mistake. I understand that it is good reason for sarcasm,thanks. I have read in many topics that you give a fuck about grammar. But man, you also make mistake in both grammar and making bad reputation not only for Ziber but for other projects too. I totally understand that everyone earns as he can but still, Bruno,  this way it's too fucking bad .
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July 27, 2017, 12:47:25 PM
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Some people are having problems loading the site.

"Token Sale

CONTRACT ADDRESS:

0xF76afA05637dF5574D019528dD36EFCa7f6eE212

(View contract address at Etherscan) Contract Source Code Verified

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The Smart Contract starts receiving finds 27.07.2017 12:00 GMT
Allfunds sent earlier will be rejected by the Smart Contract and will be sent back.

'Send only ETH. Sat Gas Limit to 250 000. Do not send funds from exchanges!"

Nice try  Grin
Contract Address  0xF0a924661b0263e5Ce12756D07f45b8668C53380
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July 27, 2017, 12:58:25 PM
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ZIBER?Idea is good, London block chain conference speech, I do not know what the content of the speech, where there is video, you can see, feel a good project, want to throw some.
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July 27, 2017, 01:39:46 PM
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Good luck to all fools there address is changed so many time so no one can see the funds  Grin Grin Grin Grin

total eth received is under 1000 but the site is showing 2500

https://etherscan.io/address/0xF0a924661b0263e5Ce12756D07f45b8668C53380#internaltx

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July 27, 2017, 02:04:01 PM
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Contract address changed on their main page wtf  ? https://ziber.io/

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July 27, 2017, 02:11:54 PM
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Well, as my countryman Rux said...we tested the app, and saw it was using someones phonenumber, +387 61 444 444, illegaly!!!
Now you can see it clearly that it is a scam! 1000 eth transfered internaly to another address, so that funds can't be returned to the senders!

I think you own him an appology!
Btw, I am sorry for your lost ethers!
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July 27, 2017, 02:36:56 PM
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Wats happening here? Why is the contract address changed?

@ziber care to explain?
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July 27, 2017, 02:41:14 PM
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Gleb Gamow, and WHAT are you?.. Why are u printing this SHIT?.. Because someone paid u?..Just ICO will show EVERYTHING.You are just a big mouth,  but u should shut it up, and quickly. Guys are working HARD on the Project. People will find out themselves to join or not .
 


not if it's all a scam, lol
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July 27, 2017, 02:43:21 PM
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Ziber, care to comment about contract address change. address on ziber.io 0x00C8835DD3A46c7Fc8C8DD7243c3f9f17d29FC46 is not a smart contract.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x00c8835dd3a46c7fc8c8dd7243c3f9f17d29fc46#comments


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July 27, 2017, 02:45:58 PM
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We are f*cked... check this topic
https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12767

same address...

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July 27, 2017, 03:01:13 PM
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We are f*cked... check this topic
https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12767

same address...

There this address is indicated as a BANK ADDRESS

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July 27, 2017, 03:03:58 PM
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We are f*cked... check this topic
https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12767

same address...

There this address is indicated as a BANK ADDRESS


you can't say it's a scam only by finding that address on a is-it-a-scam website, according to
https://www.companieshousedata.co.uk/a/69
there are 884 companies at this address, maybe all are scams or maybe it's just a large building

i'm not saying it's not a scam, i just hope it's not so that my two ethers don't go to waste
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