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June 21, 2011, 02:09:34 AM
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This MUST be YOU, correct?

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Domain Name: DRAGONDATA.COM Registrant: N/A Kevin Day ( ) P.O. Box 326. Round Lake Beach Illinois,60073. US Tel. +1.3126281200. Creation Date: 03-Apr-1997 ...
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So you are a 100% confirmed Security IT and Hacker.

I knew you were smart, but apparently not smart enough to outsmart everyone else.

We'll be awaiting your response and explanation. And it had better be good!



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June 21, 2011, 02:14:28 AM
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The response to this whole affair is outrageous. Involvement by a group of thugs who are presently considering legislation to ban the use of a peaceful and volunteer form of exchange? Desecration of individual rights and contractual terms for the sake of the public bitcoin community? The public be damned! Kevin has every right to every single bitcoin he earned in a legitimate trade, under contract terms that stipulated Mt. Gox in NO WAY a central authority with the power to reverse trades. Mt. Gox has provided no remotely convincing evidence to connect Kevin with the hacker, a hacker who could very well be affiliated with Mt. Gox. On top of that, the evidence and arguments put forth by Mt. Gox are extremely implausible. Who the hell would leave 500,000 bitcoins ON MT. GOX, and keep it so poorly secured? Or perhaps...and far more plausibly, it was well secured --- but Mt. Gox had secret affiliation and access.

There are dozens of avenues by which Mt. Gox could plausibly engage in fraudulent behavior to the ends we've seen in these recent revelations. There are zero thus far proposed that could at all plausibly connect Kevin with the perpetrator.

Kevin has every right to his coins, and Mt. Gox must release all necessary information to shed as much light on this situation as possible, if it hopes to ever connect Kevin with anything malicious, or if it hopes to regain any legitimacy in the eyes of the bitcoin community. Involvement by thugs with guns is not a solution. It merely provides illusory legitimacy to Mt. Gox's desired action --- grand theft of Kevin's property.

The outrageous response witnessed here on these forums is tangible evidence as to the inseparability of bitcoin and anarchocapitalism. I propose that all those who adhere to the principles of voluntary interaction identify themselves on the forum, and engage only with those who share these principles. All statists spell disaster for Bitcoin.
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June 21, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
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Hey Kevin Day....

Are you the same Kevin Day that wrote the Book, "Inside the Security Mind" - Making the Tough Decisions Huh
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Security-Mind-Making-Decisions/dp/0131118293

Product Description
Inside the Security Mind: Making the Tough Decisions, by security expert Kevin Day, teaches information officers how to think like a top security guru. Using real-world examples, Day explains how to reduce any security problem to a set of essential principles, making it easy to arrive at optimal solutions. Includes practical material on enterprise security issues and measures.
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    "This is a really good book ... it spells out the motherhood and apple pie of information security in a highly readable way."

—Warwick Ford, CTO, VeriSign, Inc.

    "An excellent security read! Breaks down a complex concept into a simple and easy-to-understand concept."

—Vivek Shivananda, President

    Redefine your organization's information security
    Learn to think and act like a top security guru!
    Understand the founding principles of security itself and make better decisions
    Make your security solutions more effective, easily manageable, and less costly!

Make smarter, more informed security decisions for your companyOrganizations today commit ever-increasing resources to information security, but are scarcely more secure than they were four or five years ago! By treating information security like an ordinary technological practice—that is, by throwing money, a handful of the latest technologies, and a lineup of gurus at the problem—they invariably wind up with expensive, but deeply flawed, solutions. The only way out of this trap is to change one's way of thinking about security: to grasp the reasoning, philosophy, and logic that underlie all successful security efforts.

In Inside the Security Mind: Making the Tough Decisions, security expert Kevin Day teaches you how to approach information security the way the top gurus do—as an art, rather than a collection of technologies. By applying this discipline, your solutions will be more secure and less burdensome in time, expense, and effort. The first part of the book explains the practice of breaking security decisions down into a set of simple rules. These rules may then be applied to make solid security decisions in almost any environment. In the second part, Day uses a series of practical examples to illustrate exactly how the discipline works in practice. Additional material covers:

    Designing an enterprise security plan, including perimeter/firewall and Internal defenses, application, system, and hardware security
    Ongoing security measures—recurring audits, vulnerability maintenance, logging and monitoring, and incident response, plus risk assessment
    Choosing between open source and proprietary solutions; and wired, wireless, and virtual private networks

This book is essential reading for anyone working to keep information secure. Technical and non-technical IT professionals alike can apply Day's concepts and strategies to become security gurus, while seasoned practitioners will benefit from the unique and effective presentation of the essential security practices.

In light of this - I must take a step back and declare myself an idiot for posting everything I have regarding this whole mess. I dont know what to think at this point. Except that is some great detective work, and if it's one and the same Kevin, well, shit. Both him and mtgox need to rot in the same pit.

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June 21, 2011, 02:22:44 AM
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I am not the author of that book.

toasty@dragondata.com is me though.
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June 21, 2011, 02:50:23 AM
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For a bunch of smart people everyone here really jumps to conclusions based on what? 6 lines mtgox could have typed? As far as I am concerned until someone actually produces legitimate evidence, all toasty is guilty of is being in the right place at the right time....




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June 21, 2011, 02:54:28 AM
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There's NO WAY to rectify this mess you've gotten into without screwing someone. And despite the decentralized, anarcho-capitalist philosophy underlying this experiment that you all jerk off to at night, you are all scream for litigation.

Just look at yourselves!


Did you imagine that decentralization of power leads to an vacuum of legality, or perhaps a crime-free utopia?

Silly boy.  Cheesy

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June 21, 2011, 02:55:59 AM
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For a bunch of smart people everyone here really jumps to conclusions based on what? 6 lines mtgox could have typed? As far as I am concerned until someone actually produces legitimate evidence, all toasty is guilty of is being in the right place at the right time....

Meh.  Looks like a roughly equal number have jumped to the conclusion that mtgox is stealing their bodily fluids, and they have just as little evidence ( = none at all).

The truth will come out eventually, maybe.  Until then, the forum circlejerk will likely continue at a gradually declining pace.

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June 21, 2011, 02:56:53 AM
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So, judging by the posts on chat, Kevin is not going to return the stolen Bitcoin... Guess that answers that question.

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June 21, 2011, 02:57:53 AM
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Here's an idea. Let's not turn into a creepy mob and try to look up the address of Kevin and post it on these boards because magicaltux want someone to blame for all of this.

That's just an idea though. Being the personal army of the guy too lazy/incompetent to get decent security in place for a site that handled millions of dollars sounds fun too.
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June 21, 2011, 02:58:25 AM
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From all the posts in this thread and all the info gathered by other users not to mention your own words, it is pretty obvious you are the hacker that had caused all this and tried to profit from it. Now that you have been caught and your name is out there you are making up this pitty party story to try and keep your stolen profits. Trying to con all the users of this message board into beleiving you are the victim and big bad mtgox is the bad guy. I think you should be locked up and hope the authorities are looking into this as we speak. I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!? That takes some pretty big balls man.. Two ton balls.... Or just plain stupidity.. Its hard to tell.. Should of just kept your mouth shut, hung low, and hoped you wouldnt get caught. You know the authorities already have your name and address... FBI is probably monitoring your bank accounts, and sitting in a windowless van down the road as we speak... If i were you i would cut up your credit cards, grow a beard, shave your head, buy a false id with your stolen BTC, and rent a boat to the Cayman Islands...
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June 21, 2011, 03:01:11 AM
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From all the posts in this thread and all the info gathered by other users not to mention your own words, it is pretty obvious you are the hacker that had caused all this and tried to profit from it. Now that you have been caught and your name is out there you are making up this pitty party story to try and keep your stolen profits. Trying to con all the users of this message board into beleiving you are the victim and big bad mtgox is the bad guy. I think you should be locked up and hope the authorities are looking into this as we speak. I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!? That takes some pretty big balls man.. Two ton balls.... Or just plain stupidity.. Its hard to tell.. Should of just kept your mouth shut, hung low, and hoped you wouldnt get caught. You know the authorities already have your name and address... FBI is probably monitoring your bank accounts, and sitting in a windowless van down the road as we speak... If i were you i would cut up your credit cards, grow a beard, shave your head, buy a false id with your stolen BTC, and rent a boat to the Cayman Islands...

Yep. he be going to jail!

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June 21, 2011, 03:03:45 AM
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Let Kevin keep the few btc he managed to get out (i.e. steal) and rollback the trades, with MtGox taking the loss on the lost BTC. That's the only solution that will work.
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June 21, 2011, 03:06:56 AM
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So let me get this right. An account was hacked, some guy put in a bunch of orders at basically a penny and was able to make out with 600 plus bitcoins valued at well over $7000 and he's bitching about it because he didn't illegally become a millionaire at the expense of someone else that perpetrated a crime? Wow...............take your free $7000 and run, I mean seriously?

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June 21, 2011, 03:08:16 AM
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For a bunch of smart people everyone here really jumps to conclusions based on what? 6 lines mtgox could have typed? As far as I am concerned until someone actually produces legitimate evidence, all toasty is guilty of is being in the right place at the right time....

Meh.  Looks like a roughly equal number have jumped to the conclusion that mtgox is stealing their bodily fluids, and they have just as little evidence ( = none at all).

The truth will come out eventually, maybe.  Until then, the forum circlejerk will likely continue at a gradually declining pace.

lol I think both sides attacking are wrong. I haven't seen sufficient evidence that says either side is right. Just a bunch of conjecture and speculation... ;o)

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June 21, 2011, 03:08:31 AM
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Talk to a lawyer, preferably one specialising in securities. Who knows you might get a settlement from mtgox and rest of the community terms and conditions.

You will not find any justice even if you deserve it on the forum.





I'm not sure how that would help. I don't see how you can launch a "securities" investigation into a trade platform that trades something technically, no different then baseball cards as far as giving monetary value. Their are places you can buy/bid on baseball cards (like MtGox) and companies that give up to date monetary values on baseball cards but if a theft of baseball cards happened, how would you investigate by means of securities law?
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June 21, 2011, 03:14:37 AM
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I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!? That takes some pretty big balls man.. Two ton balls....

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June 21, 2011, 03:18:03 AM
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If a guy steals a truck full of goods, and decides to dump them for cheap, whoever buys those shoes is still committing a crime. I say fuck Kevin and take the coins off him (he seems pretty seedy anyway).
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June 21, 2011, 03:20:57 AM
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From all the posts in this thread and all the info gathered by other users not to mention your own words, it is pretty obvious you are the hacker that had caused all this and tried to profit from it. Now that you have been caught and your name is out there you are making up this pitty party story to try and keep your stolen profits. Trying to con all the users of this message board into beleiving you are the victim and big bad mtgox is the bad guy. I think you should be locked up and hope the authorities are looking into this as we speak. I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!?

Maybe convincing up until there. I had more than one chance to take the money and didn't. I have gone out of my way to prove who I am to the Mt Gox guys. I went on OnlyOneTV with my real name and showing my face. If I did anything illegal, this has to be the worst possible strategy I can imagine for how to proceed. The only evidence that Mt Gox has shown at all is that I logged in around the same time as the bad guy, which... is exactly what I said happened.

I sat down, started checking the markets, then saw the crash start happening moments later. Of course I was logged in when this happened, I have no idea what else anyone expected?

If "OMG THEY LOGGED IN WITHIN 15 MINUTES OF EACH OTHER" is considered proof, every person reading this thread right now is obviously the same person, right?

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June 21, 2011, 03:21:44 AM
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...whoever buys those shoes is still committing a crime.

No, not remotely. As far as the purchaser is concerned, the goods were legitimate. The only criminal is the seller of said shoes due to his fraud and theft.
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