I'm Kevin, here's my side.

[toasty]

I am not the author of that book.

toasty@dragondata.com is me though.

[irishmick]

For a bunch of smart people everyone here really jumps to conclusions based on what? 6 lines mtgox could have typed? As far as I am concerned until someone actually produces legitimate evidence, all toasty is guilty of is being in the right place at the right time....

[foggyb]

There's NO WAY to rectify this mess you've gotten into without screwing someone. And despite the decentralized, anarcho-capitalist philosophy underlying this experiment that you all jerk off to at night, you are all scream for litigation.

Just look at yourselves!

Did you imagine that decentralization of power leads to an vacuum of legality, or perhaps a crime-free utopia?

Silly boy.  

[kjj]

For a bunch of smart people everyone here really jumps to conclusions based on what? 6 lines mtgox could have typed? As far as I am concerned until someone actually produces legitimate evidence, all toasty is guilty of is being in the right place at the right time....

Meh.  Looks like a roughly equal number have jumped to the conclusion that mtgox is stealing their bodily fluids, and they have just as little evidence ( = none at all).

The truth will come out eventually, maybe.  Until then, the forum circlejerk will likely continue at a gradually declining pace.

[Rassah]

So, judging by the posts on chat, Kevin is not going to return the stolen Bitcoin... Guess that answers that question.

[neneko]

Here's an idea. Let's not turn into a creepy mob and try to look up the address of Kevin and post it on these boards because magicaltux want someone to blame for all of this.

That's just an idea though. Being the personal army of the guy too lazy/incompetent to get decent security in place for a site that handled millions of dollars sounds fun too.

[fireside]

From all the posts in this thread and all the info gathered by other users not to mention your own words, it is pretty obvious you are the hacker that had caused all this and tried to profit from it. Now that you have been caught and your name is out there you are making up this pitty party story to try and keep your stolen profits. Trying to con all the users of this message board into beleiving you are the victim and big bad mtgox is the bad guy. I think you should be locked up and hope the authorities are looking into this as we speak. I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!? That takes some pretty big balls man.. Two ton balls.... Or just plain stupidity.. Its hard to tell.. Should of just kept your mouth shut, hung low, and hoped you wouldnt get caught. You know the authorities already have your name and address... FBI is probably monitoring your bank accounts, and sitting in a windowless van down the road as we speak... If i were you i would cut up your credit cards, grow a beard, shave your head, buy a false id with your stolen BTC, and rent a boat to the Cayman Islands...

[bitrebel]

From all the posts in this thread and all the info gathered by other users not to mention your own words, it is pretty obvious you are the hacker that had caused all this and tried to profit from it. Now that you have been caught and your name is out there you are making up this pitty party story to try and keep your stolen profits. Trying to con all the users of this message board into beleiving you are the victim and big bad mtgox is the bad guy. I think you should be locked up and hope the authorities are looking into this as we speak. I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!? That takes some pretty big balls man.. Two ton balls.... Or just plain stupidity.. Its hard to tell.. Should of just kept your mouth shut, hung low, and hoped you wouldnt get caught. You know the authorities already have your name and address... FBI is probably monitoring your bank accounts, and sitting in a windowless van down the road as we speak... If i were you i would cut up your credit cards, grow a beard, shave your head, buy a false id with your stolen BTC, and rent a boat to the Cayman Islands...

Yep. he be going to jail!

[AtomicTrader]

Let Kevin keep the few btc he managed to get out (i.e. steal) and rollback the trades, with MtGox taking the loss on the lost BTC. That's the only solution that will work.

[BitcoinPorn]

[chuckypalumbo]

So let me get this right. An account was hacked, some guy put in a bunch of orders at basically a penny and was able to make out with 600 plus bitcoins valued at well over $7000 and he's bitching about it because he didn't illegally become a millionaire at the expense of someone else that perpetrated a crime? Wow...............take your free $7000 and run, I mean seriously?

[irishmick]

For a bunch of smart people everyone here really jumps to conclusions based on what? 6 lines mtgox could have typed? As far as I am concerned until someone actually produces legitimate evidence, all toasty is guilty of is being in the right place at the right time....

Meh.  Looks like a roughly equal number have jumped to the conclusion that mtgox is stealing their bodily fluids, and they have just as little evidence ( = none at all).

The truth will come out eventually, maybe.  Until then, the forum circlejerk will likely continue at a gradually declining pace.

lol I think both sides attacking are wrong. I haven't seen sufficient evidence that says either side is right. Just a bunch of conjecture and speculation... ;o)

[Alik]

Talk to a lawyer, preferably one specialising in securities. Who knows you might get a settlement from mtgox and rest of the community terms and conditions.

You will not find any justice even if you deserve it on the forum.

I'm not sure how that would help. I don't see how you can launch a "securities" investigation into a trade platform that trades something technically, no different then baseball cards as far as giving monetary value. Their are places you can buy/bid on baseball cards (like MtGox) and companies that give up to date monetary values on baseball cards but if a theft of baseball cards happened, how would you investigate by means of securities law?

[evlew]

I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!? That takes some pretty big balls man.. Two ton balls....

[fenixosup]

If a guy steals a truck full of goods, and decides to dump them for cheap, whoever buys those shoes is still committing a crime. I say fuck Kevin and take the coins off him (he seems pretty seedy anyway).

[toasty]

From all the posts in this thread and all the info gathered by other users not to mention your own words, it is pretty obvious you are the hacker that had caused all this and tried to profit from it. Now that you have been caught and your name is out there you are making up this pitty party story to try and keep your stolen profits. Trying to con all the users of this message board into beleiving you are the victim and big bad mtgox is the bad guy. I think you should be locked up and hope the authorities are looking into this as we speak. I got to hand it to you though, hacking into MtGox, emptying out someones account and buying them back up for .01, then coming on the forum and telling everyone you are the one who tried to buy them, and then asking for pity!?

Maybe convincing up until there. I had more than one chance to take the money and didn't. I have gone out of my way to prove who I am to the Mt Gox guys. I went on OnlyOneTV with my real name and showing my face. If I did anything illegal, this has to be the worst possible strategy I can imagine for how to proceed. The only evidence that Mt Gox has shown at all is that I logged in around the same time as the bad guy, which... is exactly what I said happened.

I sat down, started checking the markets, then saw the crash start happening moments later. Of course I was logged in when this happened, I have no idea what else anyone expected?

If "OMG THEY LOGGED IN WITHIN 15 MINUTES OF EACH OTHER" is considered proof, every person reading this thread right now is obviously the same person, right?

[Anonymous]

...whoever buys those shoes is still committing a crime.

No, not remotely. As far as the purchaser is concerned, the goods were legitimate. The only criminal is the seller of said shoes due to his fraud and theft.

[Maged]

Kevin's story is backed up by MtGox's own feed; and that showed that he could not have made the order before the crash. In fact, 6 people got in before him when the large order finally finished executing - which took 35ish minutes.

[neneko]

Kevin's story is backed up by MtGox's own feed; and that showed that he could not have made the order before the crash. In fact, 6 people got in before him when the large order finally finished executing - which took 35ish minutes.

This.

Which of course begs the question of why magicaltux would try to pin this whole thing on someone he knows most likely had nothing to do with the hack. The obvious answer here is that he needed a scapegoat and he needed one fast. The sooner people start blaming Kevin the less heat magicaltux and thus mt gox will have to take. He must know that legally he can't put over any responsibility for this on kevin so I assume he's doing this because he hopes that he can get mt gox back to its former glory after this is over with. I for one am not going to make a single trade there.

The current evidence stacked up again Kevin is that he was logged in when the crash happened and that he's apparently good with computer security. While this is apparently enough to convince some of the lesser minds on these boards I somehow doubt it's something that would hold up in court.

[Batouzo]

So let me get this right. An account was hacked, some guy put in a bunch of orders at basically a penny and was able to make out with 600 plus bitcoins valued at well over $7000 and he's bitching about it because he didn't illegally become a millionaire at the expense of someone else that perpetrated a crime? Wow...............take your free $7000 and run, I mean seriously?

This is how it usually works with BTC, buying low and selling high.

It was lower then usual for some traders indeed, but it's not his fault so crazy low offers where placed.