YAcoin Fear Mongering Campaign - Updated

[Yurizhai]

I don't know what's going on, but you're seeing a lot of YAcoin wallet stealing claims.

Do not listen to them until you hear it from someone you trust on here. The way the same people and brand new members are spreading this rumor makes it highly suspect.

Updated suspicious peoples list.

List of suspicious people - bennybong, brewins, Aahzman, hdclover, poly, d3stroy3r.

Any Jr. member or new account should also be viewed with suspicion.


Possible it could be a cpuminer or something aside from the yacoin-qt, again, if it is real and  not a anti marketing campaign by 6 people.

UPDATE: bennybong now says his forum account was compromised and none of his coins were stolen. So he was either hacked and it's bullshit or he is backpedaling and it's bullshit.

UPDATE:  Thanks to user seleme, we can see hdclover has or has tried to gain a large amount of royalcoin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201831.0

Up until a few hours ago his avatar was also royalcoin. The pieces are coming together.

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[caish5]

Us linuxers had to compile from source so i guess we're all good.
As usual

[Yurizhai]

List of suspicious people - bennybong, brewins, Aahzman, hdclover, poly, d3stroy3r.

Until you see it from reputable people it's possibly FUD, especially coming from hdclover aka Mr. RoyalCoin.

[nerdcustoms]

My wallet is just fine as well.  Ran every virus scan I can think.  People should post what dates they downloaded the client.  I download mine on day of launch and it's fine.  Perhaps a bad download is floating around.

[rbdrbd]

I cannot confirm what they are saying is true. I ran wireshark and fiddler and did not see any connections to the host posted in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202070.0

[phrozenspite]

I'm running the windows client and I've had no issues with it either, given their posting strategy I'd say its complete BS on their part as well.  

[Yurizhai]

My coins are safe as well, so far.

[Mushoz]

Yacoin.exe did not access my bitcoin wallet.dat. Checked with process monitor. Cannot replicate the issue.

[wesleyrbk]

Also doubting it. We have source files and they do not indicate that the yacoin wallet is stealing BTC.

[anderl]

Yacoin.exe did not access my bitcoin wallet.dat. Checked with process monitor. Cannot replicate the issue.

I found another post where an antivirus friendly minerd was hosted on mega.  Can anyone confirm that this was where you downloaded rather than the other link

https://mega.co.nz/#    !shoxkb5b!DjiCAQBQ627TaW0oet1C7mvqM7Q2-2u-g4kDRHbniU4

[shaal]

My coins are safe and even had an unencrypted wallet (since been encrypted), been mining YACs since launch

[phrozenspite]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202087.msg2110116#msg2110116
boxman owned one of them pretty good

[rbdrbd]

Yacoin.exe did not access my bitcoin wallet.dat. Checked with process monitor. Cannot replicate the issue.

I found another post where an antivirus friendly minerd was hosted on mega.  Can anyone confirm that this was where you downloaded rather than the other link

https://mega.co.nz/#    !shoxkb5b!DjiCAQBQ627TaW0oet1C7mvqM7Q2-2u-g4kDRHbniU4

Original download URL in the launch thread (and in my info thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200170.0) is "https://mega.co.nz/#!5wgDnKyZ!QLfWTXNRMRTwmb60rfpuFgzH48BCl4fpwb8paeAaqRs"

[poly]

How am I supposed to remember where I downloaded it from?

I lost coins

[GröBkAz]

Perhaps someone can post the names of the anti YAC propaganda people. All the posts are from the same 5 or 6 Users.

[wesleyrbk]

Check your browsing history.

[rbdrbd]

Can someone reproduce this with the client from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201050.0 in a sandboxed environment??

[Yurizhai]

Perhaps someone can post the names of the anti YAC propaganda people. All the posts are from the same 5 or 6 Users.

I posted some in my 2nd post in this thread.

[anderl]

Can someone reproduce this with the client from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201050.0 in a sandboxed environment??

working on it...  will be a while though

[XRcode]

I have a wallet with 6.5 BTC, yacoin windows binary installed since the launch... bitcoins safe so far.
Considering to move them to cold storage but i still think it's bullshit.

[D35TR0Y3R]

My bitcoins are NOT safe and has being stolen

[Mushoz]

Yacoin.exe did not access my bitcoin wallet.dat. Checked with process monitor. Cannot replicate the issue.

I found another post where an antivirus friendly minerd was hosted on mega.  Can anyone confirm that this was where you downloaded rather than the other link

https://mega.co.nz/#    !shoxkb5b!DjiCAQBQ627TaW0oet1C7mvqM7Q2-2u-g4kDRHbniU4

Can confirm that this Minerd is indeed infected:

[Mushoz]

Can someone reproduce this with the client from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201050.0 in a sandboxed environment??

Yeah, it's infected. See my previous post.

Edit: Or at least it doesn't want to run with a monitor program running, which is suspect as hell, of course.

[Fernandez]

It may be the windows crypt-jane minerd which was downloaded from here https://mega.co.nz/#!IJRziTBD!ZCAKGC7fqYkyXsEDi9GB1RYiqIUqj2S9bEm6UI2y1no

Can anyone check it? I don't have any wallets on my PC so I am good. Just wondering whether to remove it or not - it has been working great.

[Boxman90]

Yacoin.exe did not access my bitcoin wallet.dat. Checked with process monitor. Cannot replicate the issue.

I found another post where an antivirus friendly minerd was hosted on mega.  Can anyone confirm that this was where you downloaded rather than the other link

https://mega.co.nz/#    !shoxkb5b!DjiCAQBQ627TaW0oet1C7mvqM7Q2-2u-g4kDRHbniU4

Can confirm that this Minerd is indeed infected:

LOL this proves honestly nothing :') It proves you get some error message running a random minerd.exe named file.

Fuck off will ya.

[shaal]

I didn't think minerd was available at the time of the yakcoin launch?

[monokaskade]

I downloaded yacoind from https://mega.co.nz/#   !UowEmZYS!AAK7DVwYoTqy96oTRzUaLCS0UMsAfosJiRQmBn1jzcA
My encrypted bitcoin wallet hasn't changed. Everything is still here

I also downloaded and ran the windows x64 cpuminer yesterday.
https://mega.co.nz/#   !pUMBkbbY!cMJYcFqPCMr1idZBr30VsFw0tLY7y63J0N4RVNYMUBc

[anderl]

I didn't think minerd was available at the time of the yakcoin launch?

this is one I found that was posted in an antivirus friendly yakcoin thread.

[baka]

that's what happens when coin developers don't release a miner to go with the coin, people take advantage and release compiled miners out of the "kindness of their heart", and you are get scammed.

[shaal]

I didn't think minerd was available at the time of the yakcoin launch?

this is one I found that was posted in an antivirus friendly yakcoin thread.

If it is causing it then, i doubt it was the yakcoin creator, just some scumbag that decided to create the miner and release it 'for the good of all'

[hdclover]

Warning possible keylogger or sensitive data extraction please reinstall your OS if you have already lost some bitcoins

[Yurizhai]

Warning possible keylogger or sensitive data extraction please reinstall your OS if you have already lost some bitcoins

 

[bushstar]

What we have here is compromised forum accounts.

There has been quite a few co-ordinated campaigns against some of the newer coins recently. The thing to look at is probably the other coins that have not been subjected to this sort of treatment. It is hard for me to put it all together. I'm spending a lot of my time fire fighting FUD.

[anderl]

I didn't think minerd was available at the time of the yakcoin launch?

this is one I found that was posted in an antivirus friendly yakcoin thread.

If it is causing it then, i doubt it was the yakcoin creator, just some scumbag that decided to create the miner and release it 'for the good of all'

agreed I think we can report the developer is not responsible for this but that some people may have been phished to install a new mining client and this was the result... if this is real and not FUD

[seleme]

As long as you don't sell them your cheap coins they can talk what they want.

Unfortunately, there's always going to be people who'll shit themselves so they'll get what they want - cheaper coins.

They won't get my though, I'd rather destroy them 

[fenican]

No problems here with the original client download

Why would anyone with hundreds of BTC who is downloading random new coins not have an encrypted wallet?  Makes no sense

[caish5]

As long as you don't sell them your cheap coins they can talk what they want.

Unfortunately, there's always going to be people who'll shit themselves so they'll get what they want - cheaper coins.

They won't get my though, I'd rather destroy them 

Not getting mine either.

[Yurizhai]

Updated with the bennybong situation 

[anderl]

No problems here with the original client download

Why would anyone with hundreds of BTC who is downloading random new coins not have an encrypted wallet?  Makes no sense

[bennybong]

My account was compromised! I have spoken to a moderator, hopefully some explanation will come out soon... and you can clear my name!

Just as I thought I was making a rep for myself  

[mkmen]

LoL retard marketing team strikes! What a bunch of jokers.

[bennybong]

No bitcoins have been stolen from me. Don't even mine on this PC. I'm struggling to understand what the hell is going on here....

[xibeijan]

No bitcoins stollen from me either.

All this YAC fear mongering is actually a testament to its success.

[shakezula]

Why would anyone with hundreds of BTC who is downloading random new coins not have an encrypted wallet?  Makes no sense

Ahh, the 1MBTC question, no?

[bennybong]

I have already posted here trying to sell one of my Avalons. My real name can be seen in the thread  

Don't mind proving who I am to a trusted member of the forum...

[GröBkAz]

+1

[LOG123]

Nothing Royal about Royalcoin.
It's just another LTC clone

Keep shaving, my friends.

[seleme]

Well, it's pretty clear now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201831.0

[dvdrewritable]

LOL this proves honestly nothing :') It proves you get some error message running a random minerd.exe named file.

Fuck off will ya.

I haven't downloaded or invested any of these copy paste coins, so no interest in either side of argument, but themida packed minerd should be raising a flag

[Yurizhai]

Well, it's pretty clear now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201831.0

Thanks, updated.

[bennybong]

Confirmed it's minerd:







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uSeuYyPDBQ

[seleme]

Confirmed it's minerd:

that's not confirmation at all... official pooler's cpuminer has some 35/45 virus warnings in virus total and it's clean and used by thousands and thousands.

[spoonman]

I've been running the windows client downloaded from the original launch post from 8th May with no issues.
I stopped it after reading a few of the FUD posts but started it up again now.

[bennybong]

Confirmed it's minerd:

that's not confirmation at all... official pooler's cpuminer has some 35/45 virus warnings in virus total and it's clean and used by thousands and thousands.

I have 3 or 4 other builds of minerd. This is the one I downloaded from the yacoin thread....

[seleme]

Well, it's pretty clear now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201831.0

Thanks, updated.

He is not trying to buy those royals, he has loads of them and wants to bring it back from dead. I don't have any Royals but don't want to bash it, it's alt as alt, copycat as all others, some on smaller, some on bigger scale.. it's people who are holding it... it's same with pretty much each other coin, lot of people somehow think that coin they hold will somehoww be worth 10$/piece if they talk shit about other one, lol... low lifes

[seleme]

Confirmed it's minerd:

that's not confirmation at all... official pooler's cpuminer has some 35/45 virus warnings in virus total and it's clean and used by thousands and thousands.

I have 3 or 4 other builds of minerd. This is the one I downloaded from the yacoin thread....

All minerds including they very original one are full of viruses based on virus checking tools... so the only confirmation would be the network caught not the false positives from virus tools. These yac miners haDDDd been announced in a wild definitely, I've installed them only on my vps'es from that very reason but as with anything else there's still no proof they're bad guys.

[serge79]

Confirmed it's minerd:

that's not confirmation at all... official pooler's cpuminer has some 35/45 virus warnings in virus total and it's clean and used by thousands and thousands.

I have 3 or 4 other builds of minerd. This is the one I downloaded from the yacoin thread....

All minerds including they very original one are full of viruses based on virus checking tools... so the only confirmation would be the network caught not the false positives from virus tools. These yac miners haDDDd been announced in a wild definitely, I've installed them only on my vps'es from that very reason but as with anything else there's still no proof they're bad guys.

That's a strong point: Minerd IS a virus for many antivirus software (why? does "Botnet" say you something?) It's been like that long ago before Yacoin come out..

(This doesn't mean Yacoin client/miner people downloaded on "hackmyass.iwillbetoorich.com" is safe)

[theking]

original cpu miner

SHA256:    935816b85da3a981377a8d2f29de33d70cdb3e999ea78094f3c1973b990911d6
File name:    pooler-cpuminer-2.2.3-win64.zip
Detection ratio:    8 / 46

some results:
Kaspersky    not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win32.BitCoinMiner.cnl
Ikarus    not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win32.BitCoinMiner

downloaded from

http://sourceforge.net/projects/cpuminer/files/

Thread:
YACoin Windows 7 x64 miner [SSSE3 and AVX support]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201027.0

from mega link:

SHA256:    f2d76e2df4c42254b2f62fd42bc748c538818c786bb86ae92b316b94eae79034
File name:    minerd_scrypt_jane_x64_avx.exe
Detection ratio:    0 / 46

SHA256:    29c0636832bd50f5a5c61f85e88db13759745ecbfba9342c63fb0962d76d6aba
File name:    file-5478923_exe
Detection ratio:    0 / 46

SHA256:    b923e95d1173d0e35630553be0fe7dfbdd5e8f3b2f0d53a1eb0214576d316bc0
File name:    jansson.dll
Detection ratio:    0 / 46

SHA256:    0e6af724609ef6846982ef717013426c359c455fff324e906d8d55c8bb88d16e
File name:    pthreadVC2.DLL
Detection ratio:    0 / 46

[suspect exe] from this thread: [YAC] Antivirus friendly minerd for Windows
[suspect exe] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201050.0

SHA256:    0ffa2116bf1027019ad94e9bf8e2340be427d6efbc9563e185096cf8550b4c3a
File name:    cpuminer-scrypt-jane-win32-themida.zip
Detection ratio:    15 / 46

still shows bitcoin miner
Ikarus    Win32.BitCoinMiner

also many shows themida
and

VIPRE    Backdoor.Win32.Ircbot.gen (v)


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The original cpu miner may show up in virustotal as bitcoin miner etc as its being distributed in huge quantity via botnets for hidden mining, this doesnt mean the original exe is a virus or anything.

The suspect exe above, could be the culprit for wallets being taken.

[jomay]

Warning possible keylogger or sensitive data extraction please reinstall your OS if you have already lost some bitcoins

I've dealt with hdclover on the 9.5.13 selling him YACs. He was desperate to get more.

Anyhow I have checked the BTC address he sent my payment from and there is nothing missing. So either hdclover had a different wallet.dat corrupted or did not lose anything.

Anything else, make your own conclusions. And feel free to repost that to the other posts he did.

[bennybong]

Confirmed it's minerd:

that's not confirmation at all... official pooler's cpuminer has some 35/45 virus warnings in virus total and it's clean and used by thousands and thousands.

I have 3 or 4 other builds of minerd. This is the one I downloaded from the yacoin thread....

All minerds including they very original one are full of viruses based on virus checking tools... so the only confirmation would be the network caught not the false positives from virus tools. These yac miners haDDDd been announced in a wild definitely, I've installed them only on my vps'es from that very reason but as with anything else there's still no proof they're bad guys.

I understand what you're saying but 3 different builds of minerd on my desktop are okay.

[bitbitcoincoin]

Us linuxers had to compile from source so i guess we're all good.
As usual

Pretty much from the start YAcoin has been LINUXcoin, seems the dev has a OS of choice and anyone who shares it was able to truly reap the benefits from being a early adopter.

[turtle83]

Us linuxers had to compile from source so i guess we're all good.
As usual

Pretty much from the start YAcoin has been LINUXcoin, seems the dev has a OS of choice and anyone who shares it was able to truly reap the benefits from being a early adopter.

Windows instructions: https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin/blob/master/doc/build-msw.txt

Linux instructions: https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin/blob/master/doc/build-unix.txt

Where do you see any favoritism?

You could even do "practice builds" few days ago to make sure you had everything u needed once the real genesis block is added and announced.

Now if u say YAC is not very n00b friendly... then thats another story...

<speculating>I think bitcoin probably did not have a GUI for quite some time... </speculating>

[Fernandez]

SO was one of the minerds infected or not? And if yes, which one?

[seleme]

SO was one of the minerds infected or not? And if yes, which one?

Most probably not. If it was the alternate forum would crash from all stolen wallets and not had few threads by same group of people who suddenly disappeared after they realized fud didn't work.

[bitbitcoincoin]

Us linuxers had to compile from source so i guess we're all good.
As usual

Pretty much from the start YAcoin has been LINUXcoin, seems the dev has a OS of choice and anyone who shares it was able to truly reap the benefits from being a early adopter.

Windows instructions: https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin/blob/master/doc/build-msw.txt

Linux instructions: https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin/blob/master/doc/build-unix.txt

Where do you see any favoritism?

You could even do "practice builds" few days ago to make sure you had everything u needed once the real genesis block is added and announced.

Now if u say YAC is not very n00b friendly... then thats another story...

<speculating>I think bitcoin probably did not have a GUI for quite some time... </speculating>

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200345.0

TLDR - windows compiler gave about 10-20% the output of the linux one on release, pretty huge discrepency during the "early adopter" mining phase of a coin.  Of course those who used linux and got thousands of coins that night have no complaints(unless they have any empathy in them like tacotime).  With that and now the windows client being the only one with a virus it's clear that YAcoin is LINUXcoin. 

[seleme]

With that and now the windows client being the only one with a virus

lol, you're not really on right place to make 1000 times repeated lies as a true.

[bitdwarf]

So we have:

* 1 stolen forum account.
* 1 account that suddenly lost their command of English grammar.
* 1 jr account that used to advertise a scam service.
* 1 account that says now that they were just repeating what they heard.
* 1 account that says they didn't lose anything, but they detected the client accessed the wallet (duh)

[bennybong]

So we have:

* 1 stolen forum account.
* 1 account that suddenly lost their command of English grammar.
* 1 jr account that used to advertise a scam service.
* 1 account that says now that they were just repeating what they heard.
* 1 account that says they didn't lose anything, but they detected the client accessed the wallet (duh)

Very weird  I don't really understand what has happened. Did he steal my password? My browser session? Is he watching me type this now?? 

[seleme]

So we have:

* 1 stolen forum account.
* 1 account that suddenly lost their command of English grammar.
* 1 jr account that used to advertise a scam service.
* 1 account that says now that they were just repeating what they heard.
* 1 account that says they didn't lose anything, but they detected the client accessed the wallet (duh)

Very weird  I don't really understand what has happened. Did he steal my password? My browser session? Is he watching me type this now?? 

His probably w@nking at you, some weird bloke guaranteed so don't show more than you are ready to 

[bennybong]

So we have:

* 1 stolen forum account.
* 1 account that suddenly lost their command of English grammar.
* 1 jr account that used to advertise a scam service.
* 1 account that says now that they were just repeating what they heard.
* 1 account that says they didn't lose anything, but they detected the client accessed the wallet (duh)

Very weird   I don't really understand what has happened. Did he steal my password? My browser session? Is he watching me type this now??  

His probably w@nking at you, some weird bloke guaranteed so don't show more than you are ready to  

ooooo exciting!

[Boelens]

Had unencrypted wallet, no coins stolen, got YACoin client since day one. I think nothing bad is happening, but I encrypted my wallet just to be safe.

[Boba]

Looking at the transactions on the blockchain, I noticed all of the addresses that sent bitcoin to 1RPrtamTACe1TcqkX2FmWVtRzmQJ6CfRx received funds right before they were "stolen". Ofc, I haven't checked all of them, but will check a few more to be sure.

[LOG123]

I direct your attention
===> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202255.0

[anonynonanony]

Not a fear-mongering campaign, people lost their BTC to Limitless, a POS scammer who was left to spread his trojan on here!!! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200147.msg2109275#msg2109275

care to link to limitless's virus post, and not just a post of you calling him out?