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August 14, 2017, 10:00:08 AM
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But this is not what you have been saying

Basically, you have been saying that "if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail". Now you say that you would still prefer Coca-Cola even if the competing product were absolutely identical. It may work with Coca-Cola (something subjective) but may not work with something which cab be objectively measured. And this measure in the case of Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash showdown is profitability. Note that I'm not favoring any of them here, I just take a neutral approach and claim that the currency which will be able to bring more profits over longer periods of time will necessarily win since profitability is what the vast majority of people are looking for. And it is not just about regular Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash, it is about any coin out there

I agree, but still I don't think that Bitcoin Cash will be the winner. To me it looks like the situation with high transaction fees is improving day by day. Right now, for example, you have to pay 180 satoshis/byte for a pretty fast, within 30 minutes, transaction. As far as I remember it was 400+ satoshis/byte some time ago. I think changes for good will bring more people to Bitcoin in the future and Bitcoin Cash will be forgotten by many of its today's supporters

I don't think that it will, either

But that's not my point. Transaction fees are mostly irrelevant (as well as time it takes to confirm a transaction). This can be easily explained and proved in practice. First, Bitcoin prices are determined at exchanges, and traders don't move their bitcoins very often, so that they don't care a lot about commissions and times. Further, if the fees really mattered as much as people think they do, we would see a massive exodus from Bitcoin to altcoins, most certainly to Litecoin with its cheap and fast transactions. But as I said, it is profitability which plays the most important role here, i.e. not fees or confirmation times, and thus people stick to Bitcoin and bite the bullet (with high fees and slow confirms)

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August 14, 2017, 10:23:04 AM
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Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, that is getting no support at all by no one beside its creators. This is what we can call a big fail. Being an altcoin, I see no reason to compare them...
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August 14, 2017, 02:59:25 PM
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I am pessimistic that bcc is going become huge, so I think it will just become another alt coin, I dont see enthusiactic people about this coin, infact I saw a lot of people will dump this coin after they received this coin
actually I also not too understand the difference between a bitcoin and bitcoin cash but that I know of so far bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that is in computer networks, in the blockchain and the network is difficult to manipulate while bitcoin cash i.e. miners and developers working together to improve the cryptocurrency in the future, however, all of this raises concerns in terms of security of the bitcoin cash.
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August 14, 2017, 06:28:40 PM
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Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, that is getting no support at all by no one beside its creators. This is what we can call a big fail. Being an altcoin, I see no reason to compare them...

To those comparing the two, they know what they saw and they also know the basis for such conclusion but for me, I have not even claimed my own BCC with all the paparazzi and I am not sure I will but it seems the popularity of BCH or BCC is just for a while and after the week of August 1, it just seems everyone decides to close the chapter on the controversy but I wish it will succeed so that doubters would at least know they are wrong on this one.
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August 15, 2017, 05:08:31 PM
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Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, that is getting no support at all by no one beside its creators. This is what we can call a big fail. Being an altcoin, I see no reason to compare them...

To those comparing the two, they know what they saw and they also know the basis for such conclusion but for me, I have not even claimed my own BCC with all the paparazzi and I am not sure I will but it seems the popularity of BCH or BCC is just for a while and after the week of August 1, it just seems everyone decides to close the chapter on the controversy but I wish it will succeed so that doubters would at least know they are wrong on this one.
Yes, BitcoinCash is just a new altcoin that was ripped off newly from the main BTC, so you shouldn’t expect it to start competing with BTC since it’s still new in market. This is just its first month, so let’s wait and see how things roll out in coming months. Personally I do not see any big potential with BCH as bitcoin itself is updating itself to scale high volumes. So, BCH may fade out in quicker times.
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August 15, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
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Bitcoin cash will have a high value with the same fork They targeted beside bitcoin In my opinion they will surpass the bitcoin They want to replace BTC with BCH I think it will be possible because of the great possibilities in this world Their aim to make the miners a glad
Are you kidding me? the fork coin just another shit and never to replace the real one. Bitcoin cash just bunch of the greed. The free airdrop coin must not worth a lot just like bitcoin or even surpass it. You must realize what are you said. bitcoin cahs just nothing right now.
Correct, the miners made wild and bold claims about this new coin but you must learn to tune out those statements, that is why I always think of those as commercials where the owners try to hype their product, the same is true for bitcoin cash, bitcoin cash is not accepted anywhere and I do not think that is going to change.

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August 15, 2017, 08:19:43 PM
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I dont see any chance that bitcoin cash could take out the real bitcoin.

maybe in another lifetime or dimension ?  Grin
Bitcoin cash is a kid as compared to original Bitcoin. No matter how hard Bitcoin cash works, it can never ever surpass genuine Bitcoin. Many people are already dumping their Bitcoin cash which is ultimately leading to huge decrease in the value of Bitcoin cash. I also don't believe in Bitcoin cash much.

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August 15, 2017, 08:25:07 PM
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I dont see any chance that bitcoin cash could take out the real bitcoin.

maybe in another lifetime or dimension ?  Grin
Bitcoin cash is a kid as compared to original Bitcoin. No matter how hard Bitcoin cash works, it can never ever surpass genuine Bitcoin. Many people are already dumping their Bitcoin cash which is ultimately leading to huge decrease in the value of Bitcoin cash. I also don't believe in Bitcoin cash much.
I didn't even mind claiming my btc, first I don't want to transfer my btc and 2nd it will be few since I only have few btc left wgen that August 1 splits happen. Plus knowing that bch will really be nothing n time.

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August 15, 2017, 08:28:15 PM
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


14 days after your message, we've seen the result. Bitcoin had an absolute victory over bitcoin cash. At the first day, they pumped bitcoin cash, yet it couldn't keep going in that way.
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August 15, 2017, 11:17:53 PM
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The first time people know is bitcoin, so the presence of bitcoin cash will be considered a bitcoin imitation. I'm sure bitcoin cash will be the same as altcoin and people make top priority is bitcoin.



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August 16, 2017, 06:57:08 PM
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Lol it's still i would choose BITCOIN the mother coin of all of them hehehe. Nitcoin Cash is just a fork of BITCOIN maybe there's a time that Bitcoin Cash would blow but BITCOIN still the best of them hehe
bitcoin already touched the new ATH above $4000 that was so crazy, but what already happened with bitcoin cash? nothing happen at least the more people want to buy the real bitcoin. the price of bitcoin is really promising right now.

If you look at it that way, Bitcoin Cash started from zero. Smiley
While Bitcoin has reached $4000, the potential increase in Bitcoin Cash is much more. Bitcoin Cash can double in price easily, and people wouldn't be surprised. If Bitcoin reaches $8000, it would be a great deal.
Yes, that’s true. Bitcoin Cash started from scratch, it just came out by itself. There wasn’t any split or SegWit.
I would say Bitcoin Cash is all good, but you can’t put it in the ring to compete against Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the first, and well trusted by everyone.
I do not know why we cannot try to put bitcoin and bitcoin cash in the same ring, that is exactly what the miners want they want to defeat bitcoin with their altcoin, at the moment this is a no contest bitcoin will win in the first seconds of the first round if this was a boxing match.

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August 16, 2017, 08:42:03 PM
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Bitcoin Cash makes the size of so-called "blocks"
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August 17, 2017, 06:50:45 AM
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Lol it's still i would choose BITCOIN the mother coin of all of them hehehe. Nitcoin Cash is just a fork of BITCOIN maybe there's a time that Bitcoin Cash would blow but BITCOIN still the best of them hehe
bitcoin already touched the new ATH above $4000 that was so crazy, but what already happened with bitcoin cash? nothing happen at least the more people want to buy the real bitcoin. the price of bitcoin is really promising right now.

If you look at it that way, Bitcoin Cash started from zero. Smiley
While Bitcoin has reached $4000, the potential increase in Bitcoin Cash is much more. Bitcoin Cash can double in price easily, and people wouldn't be surprised. If Bitcoin reaches $8000, it would be a great deal.
Yes, that’s true. Bitcoin Cash started from scratch, it just came out by itself. There wasn’t any split or SegWit.
I would say Bitcoin Cash is all good, but you can’t put it in the ring to compete against Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the first, and well trusted by everyone.
I do not know why we cannot try to put bitcoin and bitcoin cash in the same ring, that is exactly what the miners want they want to defeat bitcoin with their altcoin, at the moment this is a no contest bitcoin will win in the first seconds of the first round if this was a boxing match.

Indeed, we can place them in the same ring

In fact, this is what we should do exactly and exactly that has already been done by any major exchange out there (Bittrex, Bitfinex, Poloniex, etc). Since both of these coins are traded, the market is going to decide on their fate. Anyway, neither regular Bitcoin nor Bitcoin Cash are used as sort of "cash", they are just speculation vehicles and therefore will compete (are competing) in this division

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August 17, 2017, 07:04:24 AM
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


14 days after your message, we've seen the result. Bitcoin had an absolute victory over bitcoin cash. At the first day, they pumped bitcoin cash, yet it couldn't keep going in that way.
Definitely Bitcoins will not defeat by a bitcoin cash that just created because of fork and still its just an another alt in crptocurrency that has been at its good value or good price because its new to market. BItcoin will continue to rise while bitcoin cash will no longer be a good coin after all when Ethereum and some top coins goes back to their active market .
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August 17, 2017, 07:08:29 AM
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Bitcoin is not really a bog dif.from cas maybe if theres a diff. It is only few because in terms of value they are almost the same.they are both usefull
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August 17, 2017, 08:29:14 AM
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I do not know why we cannot try to put bitcoin and bitcoin cash in the same ring, that is exactly what the miners want they want to defeat bitcoin with their altcoin, at the moment this is a no contest bitcoin will win in the first seconds of the first round if this was a boxing match.

Indeed, we can place them in the same ring

In fact, this is what we should do exactly and exactly that has already been done by any major exchange out there (Bittrex, Bitfinex, Poloniex, etc). Since both of these coins are traded, the market is going to decide on their fate. Anyway, neither regular Bitcoin nor Bitcoin Cash are used as sort of "cash", they are just speculation vehicles and therefore will compete (are competing) in this division

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Yeah, I think BCH is an altcoin... Bitcoin forks tend to be altcoins. I prefer Bitcoin, but I think we might all be using some superior altcoin someday. Who knows? If something like Segwit2x overtakes Bitcoin, I recall Greg Maxwell saying that he'd rather launch a new altcoin than work on legacy BTC + POW change. Whatever he builds is worth keeping an eye on, should that happen.

Anyway, I think in the world of cryptocurrencies, we should be supportive of free markets. No need to be dogmatic. That's why I hold my Bitcoin Cash, even if I don't think it can compete with Bitcoin in the long run. Because I don't fight the market. Smiley

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August 17, 2017, 10:32:23 AM
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


14 days after your message, we've seen the result. Bitcoin had an absolute victory over bitcoin cash. At the first day, they pumped bitcoin cash, yet it couldn't keep going in that way.
Definitely Bitcoins will not defeat by a bitcoin cash that just created because of fork and still its just an another alt in crptocurrency that has been at its good value or good price because its new to market. BItcoin will continue to rise while bitcoin cash will no longer be a good coin after all when Ethereum and some top coins goes back to their active market .

Some of the recent bch market movements over the past few weeks have begun to show that bch is not a potential coin, most users choose to sell it and go back to bitcoin, unstable blocksize will have a negative effect on bch and for reasons no business support for this coin, I think this Is the right time bch go to the abyss.

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August 17, 2017, 10:35:57 AM
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The only thing that separates Bitcoin Cash from other altcoins is marketing. The fact is that any hard fork is an altcoin. Fair enough, maybe we will all be using some altcoin in the future rather than Bitcoin.
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August 17, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
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I do not know why we cannot try to put bitcoin and bitcoin cash in the same ring, that is exactly what the miners want they want to defeat bitcoin with their altcoin, at the moment this is a no contest bitcoin will win in the first seconds of the first round if this was a boxing match.

Indeed, we can place them in the same ring

In fact, this is what we should do exactly and exactly that has already been done by any major exchange out there (Bittrex, Bitfinex, Poloniex, etc). Since both of these coins are traded, the market is going to decide on their fate. Anyway, neither regular Bitcoin nor Bitcoin Cash are used as sort of "cash", they are just speculation vehicles and therefore will compete (are competing) in this division

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Yeah, I think BCH is an altcoin... Bitcoin forks tend to be altcoins. I prefer Bitcoin, but I think we might all be using some superior altcoin someday. Who knows? If something like Segwit2x overtakes Bitcoin, I recall Greg Maxwell saying that he'd rather launch a new altcoin than work on legacy BTC + POW change. Whatever he builds is worth keeping an eye on, should that happen.

Anyway, I think in the world of cryptocurrencies, we should be supportive of free markets. No need to be dogmatic. That's why I hold my Bitcoin Cash, even if I don't think it can compete with Bitcoin in the long run. Because I don't fight the market. Smiley

If you don't fight the market, the market starts fighting you

Indeed, we should follow the scent of money, and if Bitcoin Cash takes over regular Bitcoin, there is no reason not to use it if it can give decent profits. But so far we have seen a huge price rise in Bitcoin and essentially nothing of Bitcoin Cash. If things go on like this, I don't think that this Bitcoin forkcoin is ever going to cut it. For most practical intents and purposes, it doesn't offer any advantage before the original Bitcoin, so the only way it could compete with the latter is by offering better profitability. But we haven't seen any yet

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August 17, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
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Bitcoin are much more valuable than bitcoin cash as any of the currency which is been used while on the net then it has much less chance of getting in corruption so bitcoins are great way for making money
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