PaulC2K
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October 25, 2013, 03:44:26 AM |
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Am i undestanding this correctly, the PPS system only credits when a block is solved, you're still earning as normal, it just doesnt register as a confirmed reward? Could it not at least register as unconfirmed by any chance? Also, if im understanding it correctly, is this how it'll always be or is this just part of the beta phase and PPS reward only been available for a few days.
Im just looking for something which will give me correct hourly stats, and if a block isnt solved that hour doesnt come back telling me 0btc has been earned, the benefit of PPS to me is live earnings, or at least them being reported even if i cant withdraw it. Theres probably merits of the existing system, im not interested in arguing right or wrong with it (because i dont believe you opted to do it 1 way without considering its merits and my opinion holding any sway), it just happens that it really doesnt benefit our (our groups) needs because it ultimately looks no better than PPLNS where theres only sign of income when a block is solved and 0% vs 5% kinda negates the guarantee vs luck because even with a not so great time the lack of fee softens the blow, but good luck is even better. The main reason for PPS, for 'us', is a fairly fixed hourly income rather than erratic reporting. So im not disputing the decision, just wondering if theres any point in me using PPS over PPLNS really if both will report no earnings from time to time, and if this is the intended end setup for PPS or just a temp solution.
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jelin1984
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October 25, 2013, 07:47:55 AM |
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If I have Jupiter and bfl labs As worker 1 and worker 2 I must put the same diff to each worker or not?
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Korbman
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October 25, 2013, 11:32:00 AM |
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If I have Jupiter and bfl labs As worker 1 and worker 2 I must put the same diff to each worker or not? Unless they run at the same speed, no. Each worker can have its own difficulty to match its hashing speed.
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jamesg (OP)
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October 25, 2013, 11:37:59 AM |
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Am i undestanding this correctly, the PPS system only credits when a block is solved
This is incorrect. PPS is credited when shifts are created. Right now, this is about 1h 40m. , you're still earning as normal, it just doesnt register as a confirmed reward?
With PPS, every share is paid for by the pool regardless of whether we find blocks or not. Im just looking for something which will give me correct hourly stats
Bitcoin mining measured in hours will have a lot of variance because of share variance. We provide charts on your dashboard so show you your daily earnings over the last 30 days.
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October 25, 2013, 06:29:26 PM Last edit: October 25, 2013, 07:09:07 PM by Turbor |
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Edit: deleted on pool ops request
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October 25, 2013, 06:40:53 PM Last edit: October 25, 2013, 07:36:50 PM by gigavps |
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It is getting harder and harder to keep the cat in the bag. I was hoping for another couple of weeks but it doesn't look like the pool URL can be kept quite any longer.
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Morblias
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October 25, 2013, 06:52:15 PM |
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It is getting harder and harder to keep the cat in the bag. I was hoping for another couple of weeks but it doesn't look like the pools URL can be kept quite any longer. I keep face-palming when I see it in here.
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Tips / Donations accepted: 1Morb18DsDHNEv6TeQXBdba872ZSpiK9fY
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Turbor
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October 25, 2013, 06:53:46 PM |
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Was not me but I'll edit if you wish
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jamesg (OP)
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October 25, 2013, 07:53:16 PM |
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Was not me but I'll edit if you wish Thank you.
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jamesg (OP)
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October 25, 2013, 09:22:50 PM |
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Development UpdateIf you login to the site now, you'll notice a speed change for the better. Charts for hashrate and shares are no longer the snails of the race anymore! We are now collecting these stats on a pool, user AND worker basis so worker charts on your Dashboard should be implemented soon. On top of that, we are now collection total rejects per time frame so the shares chart will soon be updated so you can see your rejects and reject percentage over time. It's good to be home for an extended period of time to get this stuff knocked out. I hate slow websites!
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jelin1984
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October 25, 2013, 10:13:13 PM |
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Why the pool speed down to 77 th? Problem with pool ?
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PaulC2K
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October 25, 2013, 10:59:55 PM |
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Am i undestanding this correctly, the PPS system only credits when a block is solved
This is incorrect. PPS is credited when shifts are created. Right now, this is about 1h 40m. , you're still earning as normal, it just doesnt register as a confirmed reward?
With PPS, every share is paid for by the pool regardless of whether we find blocks or not. Im just looking for something which will give me correct hourly stats
Bitcoin mining measured in hours will have a lot of variance because of share variance. We provide charts on your dashboard so show you your daily earnings over the last 30 days. Yeah i get that bit, but im collecting the data for ProgressiveBTCMining.com and their members, so im accessing the API on the hour to get an update, and the data reported its not really accurate to what we've provided the pool. Its only going to tell me the PPS value of the blocks solved in that hour, which could in theory include a block which has taken say 6hrs to solve, therefore registering 6x what it's really earned, and the 5hrs previous come up empty. My experience of PPS doesnt match this experience, its like a poorer version of it, it might give the same income but its lacking 1 aspect that makes it valuable to me, live reporting of every share mined that hour. As i mentioned, is this method of processing the PPS reward the intended method, or is it too a beta version, and a 'live' version will be implemented when you get to it? As it stands, ive built the API parsing script to access the information needed, yet we're still sticking with Slush's which is where we've been since 50btc had problems, and the luck they've been getting hasnt given us a reason to leave yet. Basically im just trying to figure out what to suggest our group uses, and find out whether the PPS system as it stands is how it'll always be, because the main benefit for us of PPS is live reporting, and thats not available here at the present time. Im just writing basic scripts, and reporting back to the admins, they'll make the decision and ask the members whether to switch our 1st choice pool to this private one, but 5% PPS with block based updates kinda blows tbh.
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October 26, 2013, 03:54:53 AM |
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Development UpdateIf you login to the site now, you'll notice a speed change for the better. Charts for hashrate and shares are no longer the snails of the race anymore! We are now collecting these stats on a pool, user AND worker basis so worker charts on your Dashboard should be implemented soon. On top of that, we are now collection total rejects per time frame so the shares chart will soon be updated so you can see your rejects and reject percentage over time. It's good to be home for an extended period of time to get this stuff knocked out. I hate slow websites! Seems faster for me for sure. I honestly do not care that it ran slow before... the reliable up-time was good enough for me.
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jelin1984
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October 26, 2013, 04:34:09 PM |
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How I can realize that the pool go faster for me? What I must do?
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jamesg (OP)
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October 28, 2013, 01:36:44 PM |
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Pool Update
Invitations have been removed and anyone who knows the URL of the pool can now sign up.
I will be setting up a new private domain for all pool members registered before today and it will be displayed on your workers page. This is to protect those who have stuck with the pool though our beta period.
The servers should be ready later this week.
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October 28, 2013, 02:25:17 PM |
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Pool Update
Invitations have been removed and anyone who knows the URL of the pool can now sign up.
I will be setting up a new private domain for all pool members registered before today and it will be displayed on your workers page. This is to protect those who have stuck with the pool though our beta period.
The servers should be ready later this week.
Righteous!
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jelin1984
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October 28, 2013, 05:10:24 PM |
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Give some bonus at old member of the pool
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Cablez
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October 29, 2013, 02:19:32 AM |
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Did something happen on the backend? I see the hashrate dropping across the board.
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BitMinerN8
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October 29, 2013, 02:21:56 AM |
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Did something happen on the backend? I see the hashrate dropping across the board.
Just noticed and was going to post too, miner consoles look fine, just like half the speed on the dashboard.
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canth
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October 29, 2013, 02:26:31 AM |
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Did something happen on the backend? I see the hashrate dropping across the board.
Just noticed and was going to post too, miner consoles look fine, just like half the speed on the dashboard. Yup - something is borked. I'll give it an hour before I fail to my backup - bet gigavps has it fixed before then.
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