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Author Topic: BiblePay - TestNet Thread - Pool Testing for Proof of Bible Hash Pool (PoBh)  (Read 13164 times)
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August 20, 2017, 04:47:24 PM
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the dev did a great job overall but those small imperfections are spoiling the picture big time .

login form random failures ,  no https ,   ugly web interface for the pool  like a script kid made it at lunch time (choice of colors,  no menu on top of every page,  non sortable columns in reports, random failures to show account balance  on "account" page , etc )   


 actually  I can't log in even  after clicking logoff / login like 20 times .. 

It's really been surprisingly stable for a pool framework built from scratch in so little time, especially when the dev has been simultaneously doing a lot of work on coin itself. The interface looks like it's just a basic skeleton for development purposes, no point in spending a lot of time on making it pretty until the pool is rock solid. Developing a nice interface might even be something the community could help with since I believe the dev stated he wanted to open source the pool software.

>> Developing a nice interface might even be something the community could help

I'm sure  there would be one experienced AJAX dev who would like to do this.

please don't get me wrong.  I didn't mean to offend the dev in any way.  he's doing a tremendous job .


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I've been mining on the new testnet for a while now. The mining itself seems to go smoothly. I get about 1/3 the hashesps that I got in the previous testnet.
I had a peer earlier, but it now seems to have disappeared, so I don't have any connections. But it seems I'm definitely not the only one mining, since I'm not finding every block.

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Last edit: August 21, 2017, 12:35:11 AM by happy_merchant
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I've been mining on the new testnet for a while now. The mining itself seems to go smoothly. I get about 1/3 the hashesps that I got in the previous testnet.
I had a peer earlier, but it now seems to have disappeared, so I don't have any connections. But it seems I'm definitely not the only one mining, since I'm not finding every block.

I've been solo mining on test with 1.0.2.2 for a while now, mined a little over half the blocks. The algo changed a little so that's probably why the hashps is different from live. Network hash reporting seems to be way off (it's saying 172 GH/s), but it probably just hasn't been updated for the algo changes yet.

The hash ratio is virtually 1:1 for me if I'm reading this right:
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"ratio": 1,
"hc1":   416718793,
"bhc2":  416718862,
so that looks like it's working as expected. Would be interesting to see if the block times are more consistent than on live. Manually looking up blocks is kind of a pain, I wonder if I can rig up a simple RPC client to dump the timestamps in a human readable format.

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Actually wasn't too hard to set up BitcoinLib to work with Biblepay. It looks like we're still seeing some of the hour+ stuck blocks now and then, which are probably responsible for driving the average block time up so much higher than the 7 minute target. Minimum time is much better than on live, not seeing any of those instant blocks (weird fluke at block 312 where it actually came in at an earlier timestamp than block 311, I'm guessing a miner with an out of sync clock?). I cut out blocks 0-99 in the statistics because the first blocks were going really fast until the difficulty stabilized.

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Just delete the pool lines from the biblepay.conf and you don't need anything else. You can put gen=1 to start mining immediately when you run the wallet. You can also put your wallet.dat on all 10 computers so you can monitor the wallet just from your main computer and gather rewards at one place.
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I think the workers report their hashrates to the pool,
and when someone in pool finds a block,
the pool gets the reward and divides the reward between all the workers based on how much percent hashrate they each contributed.

But I believe the reward you get is only tied to your pool website account,
and you have to wait till the reward blocks mature and you can withdraw from the pool.

So I think the pool gets the reward and you can then send it from the pool to one of your wallets.

Is that how it works?

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Thanks for the analysis guys, Im reading the messages, but have gotten a little behind on vacation out in a remote area with a laptop and a relatively slow connection.  Ill be in a better area out this way tomorrow and will analyze your analysis in more depth and hopefully get the testnet ball rolling again.

I have been working on the pool back end, writing some police analysis software, and trying to make the hashps more stable.

I have to head out, will be on tomorrow.

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poolport=80
pool=http://pool.biblepay.org <- Note this URL is not live until approx Monday Aug 7th (Dev is deploying the pool tonight)
workerid=the_worker_id (explained below)
gen=1
genproclimit=10



gen=1? what is the meaning of "gen" ?
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I think gen enables/disables mining, so gen=1 turns mining on

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is it a real issue with poolinfo3 that we should care about :

"  "poolinfo1": "B9LeH2D3pxTHcssNhgBqseJekonk1q36w8; B9LeH2D3pxTHcssNhgBqseJekonk1q36w8; ",
  "poolinfo2": "RM_08-23-2017 04:00:34; RM_08-23-2017 03:47:48; ",
  "poolinfo3": "POOL DOWN-REVERTING TO SOLO MINING; POOL DOWN-REVERTING TO SOLO MINING; ",
  "miningpulse": 42887,
  "poolmining": true
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Just saw this on the leaderboard:

http://imgur.com/a/fNhnI

anh7nho has an unusual high amount of shares. In the Block Distribution History his payout seems as expected when you look at his total hashpower, so his amount of shares seems to be a bug without consequences for the payout. I'm gonna wait and see what happens when the next block is mined by the pool though, just to make sure...

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Hello.
as a Christian i am totally against this!
Bible should not be involved with payments/money, since it doesn't have nothing to do with it. I dont know what you are but i will title you SCAMMER!just because if you where christian you wouldn't do this!

Web developer, pm me.
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Hello.
as a Christian i am totally against this!
Bible should not be involved with payments/money, since it doesn't have nothing to do with it. I dont know what you are but i will title you SCAMMER!just because if you where christian you wouldn't do this!

So you're saying it does have something to do with it? Wink

And this coin does Christian deeds like helping children in need, you should read up more about it.
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Just saw this on the leaderboard:

http://imgur.com/a/fNhnI

anh7nho has an unusual high amount of shares. In the Block Distribution History his payout seems as expected when you look at his total hashpower, so his amount of shares seems to be a bug without consequences for the payout. I'm gonna wait and see what happens when the next block is mined by the pool though, just to make sure...


The next block was mined. The miner in question (cang2) wasn't even taken into account for calculating the reward (just cang1 and cang3). So the pool seems to have some sort of failsafe against this kind of erratic behavior.

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August 23, 2017, 12:10:50 PM
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Just saw this on the leaderboard:

http://imgur.com/a/fNhnI

anh7nho has an unusual high amount of shares. In the Block Distribution History his payout seems as expected when you look at his total hashpower, so his amount of shares seems to be a bug without consequences for the payout. I'm gonna wait and see what happens when the next block is mined by the pool though, just to make sure...


Thanks for that, that helps a lot.
Above all, I dont see any hacking activity in the logs around this time, and nothing strange about cang2 at 2 am.  Although I do see something that needed fixed in the log based on this and now is fixed. But back to the issue of the high shares.  I have an audit table that keeps track of historical work by minerguid and it appears cang1 is the high power server (300khps) and cang2 was temporarily a low power server. Anh was probably expirimenting and pointed the high power server at the low power miner.  All I can fabricate is he received a ton of small work based on his proven level, but cang1 was actually solving all of it quickly and asking for harder work.  Then he probably put configs back to the original way to see what happens.  Then the hashes diminished in the round for cang2.
I will keep an eye on this particular situation.  The pool does make it incrementally harder for the miner once it gets a feel as to how fast it is.  I dont see anything else unusual other than the high rate in which solutions were solved (all the solutions are checked).


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August 23, 2017, 12:13:04 PM
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Hello.
as a Christian i am totally against this!
Bible should not be involved with payments/money, since it doesn't have nothing to do with it. I dont know what you are but i will title you SCAMMER!just because if you where christian you wouldn't do this!

So you're saying it does have something to do with it? Wink

And this coin does Christian deeds like helping children in need, you should read up more about it.
Yes, and in addition, we are known for our fruits, you can see we sponsor 74 orphans.
Your fruits however look sour (negatives next to your name).

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August 23, 2017, 12:16:47 PM
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is it a real issue with poolinfo3 that we should care about :

"  "poolinfo1": "B9LeH2D3pxTHcssNhgBqseJekonk1q36w8; B9LeH2D3pxTHcssNhgBqseJekonk1q36w8; ",
  "poolinfo2": "RM_08-23-2017 04:00:34; RM_08-23-2017 03:47:48; ",
  "poolinfo3": "POOL DOWN-REVERTING TO SOLO MINING; POOL DOWN-REVERTING TO SOLO MINING; ",
  "miningpulse": 42887,
  "poolmining": true
"



We can silence the debug info once the pool is ready to go to prod.  Right now its still valuable to me occasionally.  The format for those messages are: each thread is reported sequentially and semicolon delimited; RM means ready to mine; Guids are miner guids;etc.  I plan on leaving the informative ones in and removing the miner guid and pool addresses and things that are not human.


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I've been mining on the new testnet for a while now. The mining itself seems to go smoothly. I get about 1/3 the hashesps that I got in the previous testnet.
I had a peer earlier, but it now seems to have disappeared, so I don't have any connections. But it seems I'm definitely not the only one mining, since I'm not finding every block.

I've been solo mining on test with 1.0.2.2 for a while now, mined a little over half the blocks. The algo changed a little so that's probably why the hashps is different from live. Network hash reporting seems to be way off (it's saying 172 GH/s), but it probably just hasn't been updated for the algo changes yet.

The hash ratio is virtually 1:1 for me if I'm reading this right:
Code:
"ratio": 1,
"hc1":   416718793,
"bhc2":  416718862,
so that looks like it's working as expected. Would be interesting to see if the block times are more consistent than on live. Manually looking up blocks is kind of a pain, I wonder if I can rig up a simple RPC client to dump the timestamps in a human readable format.

--edit--
Actually wasn't too hard to set up BitcoinLib to work with Biblepay. It looks like we're still seeing some of the hour+ stuck blocks now and then, which are probably responsible for driving the average block time up so much higher than the 7 minute target. Minimum time is much better than on live, not seeing any of those instant blocks (weird fluke at block 312 where it actually came in at an earlier timestamp than block 311, I'm guessing a miner with an out of sync clock?). I cut out blocks 0-99 in the statistics because the first blocks were going really fast until the difficulty stabilized.

Code:
height: 423
max: 4235 (70.58 minutes)
min: -1   (-0.02 minutes)
avg: 617  (10.28 minutes)
Code:
height: 100 | hash: 58e0f2cecc38301dfa99e7c52b438
height: 429 | difficulty: 1.52944059 | blocktime: 4.63
height: 430 | difficulty: 1.87050462 | blocktime: 2.32
height: 431 | difficulty: 2.48742754 | blocktime: 3.32
height: 432 | difficulty: 3.65735333 | blocktime: 6.12
height: 433 | difficulty: 4.67876990 | blocktime: 0.70
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height: 435 | difficulty: 2.54011743 | blocktime: 2.00
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height: 437 | difficulty: 1.97032561 | blocktime: 7.02
height: 438 | difficulty: 5.01105888 | blocktime: 10.35
height: 439 | difficulty: 3.90234281 | blocktime: 13.33
height: 440 | difficulty: 2.77608888 | blocktime: 10.73
height: 441 | difficulty: 2.41586709 | blocktime: 33.73
height: 442 | difficulty: 1.52078064 | blocktime: 2.20
height: 443 | difficulty: 1.27905615 | blocktime: 1.98
height: 444 | difficulty: 1.23269506 | blocktime: 12.95
height: 445 | difficulty: 2.35090225 | blocktime: 0.77
height: 446 | difficulty: 2.87526230 | blocktime: 17.80


Thanks happy, that analysis is very helpful.  I had added in the human readable block timestamp to showblock, and was going through them manually, but of course this is much more detailed and valuable.

Its pretty revealing.  The good news is we are not far off to achieving the proper diff level , subsidy level and spacing expected without x11.  But I see a few adjustments that need made.  

I agree, on the minimum spacing, we solved that, so it is of little concern and would just pollute the code to enforce any block minimum, as without x11 I believe in prod, there will be many fewer minimum spaced blocks now.


Regarding the late block threshhold however, the 4-5 you encountered that took one hour, I see the problem.  The good news is, I found the root cause, and its because the switch in testnet didnt actually enter the code that resolves late blocks > 30 mins elapsed!  So that is being fixed now, along with the minor diff tweak and gui tweak.  

The other thing that needed fixed is the subsidy calculation for higher diffs. Without x11, the subsidy drops quicker because the diff will rise with a different curve.
The new curve being implemented now for the next version will cure this:
Code:
/*		BiblePay Difficulty Level Chart:
1             19998.2933653649
51            19863.6590388237
101           19730.3798134583
       151           19598.4375645471
201           19467.8144693848
251           19338.4930012641
301           19210.4559235953
351           19083.6862841633
401           18958.1674095155
451           18833.8828994796
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I think what I would like to do now is make an attempt at raising the bar higher, and integrating our txindex lookup into testnet, then we test these few changes as one, and if all goes well we shoot for a mandatory with all this in at once.  I want to minimize mandatories so as not to upset our service providers.

Ill work on the txindex feature next and get back to you all.


EDIT: I forgot to add, on the x11 ratio you inspected, you are correct, it is now 1:1.  I was doing analysis on the viability to make it one x11 to a million biblehashes, but for technical reasons, it has to be just a flat 1:1.  Basically, every time the nonce on the block is incremented, the miner must know the x11 hash in order to hash the biblehash, therefore in the new system it really is 1:1.  That should be of no concern at all to our goal however, and should work fine for us and allow us to move forward. 

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Will the thread limit per worker be lifted in the next mandatory maybe?
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Will the thread limit per worker be lifted in the next mandatory maybe?
Thats just on the web pool side, so we can resolve that without changes to the core.

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Wheels are rolling again, update:

Hello all, 1.0.2.3 for testnet is now available on the website (www.biblepay.org) inside the Prod download, and as usual, the testnet features are not enabled in prod, but are ready for testing in testnet.

Will you all please delete the testnet3 blocks and chainstate folder first?  This will make it easier, and more rapid to test what we want to test, as I made the cutover rule in testnet start at block 1.

In the new version, we now raise the bar even higher, by integrating our unique txindexlookup in the PoBh algorithm.  The txindexlookup supports 3 call types: blockhash, txid, and tx.vout.address.  This way, the miner must be a fullnode to actually query these outputs.  Each mining loop performs a security hash using PoBh, but also a txindex lookup.  Now we have 2 biblehashes for every x11 hash, minimizing the effects of x11.  X11 is used for our blockindex lookups for speed.

I will start my node now in testnet, and unban anyone I have banned.  If you cant get a connection to me, let me know as I may have to unban you again until you upgrade.

The only thing not addressed in this update is the networkkhps.  I cant determine it yet, we will need to do more testing on this new version to try to calculate it.

We can also verify that the late block threshhold has been alleviated, down below 30 mins.

Thanks!

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