JasonVosler99
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August 07, 2021, 07:27:29 PM |
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Hello,
I'm a Gold VIP customer at Stake and I just had a horrible experience. I was betting live on MLB this night and watching the game Dodgers-Angels live. I felt there might be an upset in the air and placed 2 bets on the Angels. One for 30 mbtc @ 2,95 and one for 15 mbtc @ 3.20. This was during the bottom of the 9th inning at a 2-2 score when the Dodgers had a "free" chance to win the game before the 10th inning would start. So it's pretty normal that the Dodgers were the clear favourite at this point and these odds of 2,95 to 3.20 on the Angels did not look out of order at all. Look at some other MLB games where a pre-match favourite is batting in the bottom of the 9th and you will see comparable odds all the time. For example I saw a 1.42 vs 3.10 odds in another MLB game in the bottom of the 9th inning even earlier today but didn't bet on it.
So the bet started to look well....Dodgers did not score in the 9th inning so it went to extra innings. And in the top of the 10th inning the Angels took a 4-2 lead and had several men on base. So at this point my bet was looking to be a clear winner already. I was cheering and happy that this bet would make up for some earlier losses. And then to my complete shock I suddenly saw my balance getting higher and I thought what is happening here? I looked at the 2 bets and they were being settled as void.....I am in complete disbelief that your odds provider has the audacity to do this. I went to livechat and support told me that the odds provider thought there were wrong odds offered. And super conveniently for them they found out just at the moment that my bet was a 99% certain winner.....wow. I am pretty sure they would not have void it if the Dodgers would have won it, like most people would expect.
I understand you have rules in place to protect you from obvious mistakes and you can void in rare cases. But if this is an obvious mistake.....then you can basically void every bet you want. Like I said, a pre-match favourite with a chance to win the game in the 9th inning....should be big favourite so the opponent should indeed get odds around 3. You will see this all the time. These odds were not clearly wrong. And I must also say your odds were constantly moving, from 2.70 to 3.30 all the time around this period. So it's not like the system was stuck or something.
And I can also tell the odds for the Angels were 2.30 after the 9th inning was over. This 2.30 was completely in line with the odds around 3 which I took about 10 minutes earlier when the Dodgers still had their 9th inning to win the game in.
All Stake said was that the odds provider made an error and offered wrong odds. And that they could do nothing about it. End of story.
I find this very unhelpful and it scares me that even normal looking odds on such a big event can be judged as wrong and therefore you can never be sure if your bet will actually be paid out if your selection wins. Also the voiding time was right at the moment when the bet had 99% sure won and this is very filthy behaviour.
I hope Stake can still solve this for me. Does not have to be by re-grading the bets but just a manual bonus credit of the missing winnings would also do. There is always a way.
If they solve this for me, I will report it here. If they don't I will also update and this should serve as a big red flag warning that they do filthy behaviour like this. If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone. Stake, please PM me if you are open for a reasonable discussion
1) VIP doesnt really mean anything anymore at stake (unless u wager millions) .. if everyone is a 'vip' somewhere then quite simply - nobody is 2) i bet mlb often and i would agree with you. 3 odds with dodgers bottom 9th inning left seem correct, unless they have solid proof u bet on top 10th when angels were batting , your bet should be honored. If not honored , it should be paid at the 'correct' odds, whatever they maybe 3) if stake doesnt do anything, your out of luck. try posing on social media etc and their forums if u can get some attention, Thanks for your support. I will not rest until justice is done here. Just saying "odds were incorrect" is too easy. My bets really were placed at the start of the bottom of the 9th inning and indeed odds around 3 were totally normal. If odds were really abnormal and I would have like to take advantage of it I would have cashed out my bet, cause this was possible during the 10th inning with a big profit, cause obviously at that point my bet was going the right way. But I never thought my bet was in danger of getting voided so I just let it stand. The fact that odds were 2.30 for the Angels right at the start of the top of the 10th inning only proves that odds around 3 when the Dodgers still had the bottom of the 9th left to play, were totally fair too. The very very least Stake should do is pay me out at odds of 2.30. Then I have had to sweat the 9th inning for nothing and I'm still done injustice, but I will at least not be left totally with nothing. I would also be very very curious what their odds provider thinks the correct odds must have been then? If 2.95 was wrong.....then what? 2,80? 2,90? For sure must have been in between 2,30 and 3,20.
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Happy Birthday to us!!!That's all from @francis_ngannou and the Stake BoatThanks to everyone who joined us for #UFC265 ♥ https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1424254115446595585
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August 07, 2021, 09:46:20 PM Last edit: August 09, 2021, 10:27:09 PM by seleme |
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Anyone has good suggestions to wager for reaching plat 3 before ripping the rest of the balance? I have tried dice 1.1 and 1.01 but the loss streaks are more than 1 per 100 rolls. Plinko low 8 and baccarat also doesn't wager with 1:80 ratio. For example 1.13x multiplier on dice and you keep rolling on auto. If the house edge is 1%, one loss per every 100 rolls should be on statistics. In reality, I get 3 sometimes 3 reds in 100 bets. This kind of bets will drain balance before the reaching wager target. Any suggestions are welcome.
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Vaskiy
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August 07, 2021, 11:40:03 PM |
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Its a big day for Stake celebrating its fourth birthday. In this event we can see more people having life changing moments through Stake. This can be positive/negative, but on business perspective Stake has reached big and has gained good reputation and the service and support are the best than other gambling services. On this day I wholeheartedly wish it BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY .
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ralle14
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August 08, 2021, 12:16:43 AM |
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Anyone has good suggestions to wager for reaching plat 3 before ripping the rest of the balance? I have tried dice 1.1 and 1.01 but the loss streaks are more than 1 per 100 rolls. Plinko low 8 and baccarat also doesn't wager with 1:80 ratio.
That's somewhat normal when it comes to any game, at some point the ratio becomes uneven no matter what happens since there's the house edge. If you want to try a different game i'd suggest crash but it's time consuming compared to dice and plinko. Imo as long as you've wagered your deposit 100x or more then i'd say that's worth enough.
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August 08, 2021, 02:41:16 AM |
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Anyone has good suggestions to wager for reaching plat 3 before ripping the rest of the balance? I have tried dice 1.1 and 1.01 but the loss streaks are more than 1 per 100 rolls. Plinko low 8 and baccarat also doesn't wager with 1:80 ratio.
If you loves to play slot then you can try 1429 Uncharted Seas by Thunderkick. You will get near around 98.6% RTP, considered as the height RTP in slot games. It has three rows & five reels, 5 mermaid in a row gives up to 50x, Octopus & turtle paying out 10x, Lobster & fish give out 6x of your stake. Wilds feature and Free spin feature makes this game more profitable, there is a chance of getting up to 50 free spins if 5 compass appear in the screen, where three compass rewarded 10 free spins. and two compass are made mega spinning.
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chaser15
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August 08, 2021, 08:03:44 AM |
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With the surge of BTC price, the withdrawal fee is now around $10.
Are there any plans to maybe fixed it in USD value instead of 20,000 satoshis per withdraw?
No complaints just for clarifications because after all BTC price surge is not everyday. Just want to know if there's a plan for fees modification in the future.
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provablyfair0
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August 08, 2021, 08:15:29 AM |
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By the looks of it, Steve has scammed me off my bonuses and making false accusations against me without any evidence. I've made an AskGamblers complaint maybe that'll help somehow. Stake decided to not give my bonuses after I lost roughly $60k from the site.
SHADY
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Kakmakr
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August 08, 2021, 09:26:09 AM |
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Anyone has good suggestions to wager for reaching plat 3 before ripping the rest of the balance? I have tried dice 1.1 and 1.01 but the loss streaks are more than 1 per 100 rolls. Plinko low 8 and baccarat also doesn't wager with 1:80 ratio.
If you loves to play slot then you can try 1429 Uncharted Seas by Thunderkick. You will get near around 98.6% RTP, considered as the height RTP in slot games. It has three rows & five reels, 5 mermaid in a row gives up to 50x, Octopus & turtle paying out 10x, Lobster & fish give out 6x of your stake. Wilds feature and Free spin feature makes this game more profitable, there is a chance of getting up to 50 free spins if 5 compass appear in the screen, where three compass rewarded 10 free spins. and two compass are made mega spinning. Hey, Thank you for posting this one... the RTP (theoretical payout) of 98,5% and the low Volatility and hit frequency of 41,2% .... makes this one a keeper. I also like the minimum bet of $0.10 for the times when the budget is low and you just want some fun. I have to say, I was quite lucky with the first try, because I hit a 200x bet on a $0.20 bet. The game performance are not laggy and the feature and cut scene are average. This one is going to the favorites... just because it is not a "budget" killer. Ps.... Happy Birthday Stake!
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August 08, 2021, 03:41:29 PM |
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Happy 4TH Birthday Stake, it's been a blessful journey from a regular casino then combine sports gambling what a huge success. For sure you still have a lots of surprises to offer. Keep it up and enjoy the celebration, let us see more accomplishments from sponsorships and more bonuses that you'll going to offer. Again, Congrats and you may have more years to celebrate!
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August 08, 2021, 04:06:51 PM |
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Happy birthday Stake! Thanks for the birthday bonuses and promotions; keep up the good work! They also launched a nice promotion to celebrate their partnership with Watford: https://promotions.stake.com/watford-epl-payout/All bets placed on Watford will be paid out, if they score first in the match (valid for all Premier League matches).
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shasan
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August 08, 2021, 06:07:19 PM |
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Happy Birthday to us!!!
Happy birthday and many many returns of the day, though it is too late to wish. I wish you would be able to do your business with more success and also you will try to give the highest benefits to all of your users. As users are one of the best asset of your business.
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August 08, 2021, 06:15:24 PM |
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Happy Birthday to us!!!
Happy birthday to the stake team for all the effort they've put into the brand to make it successful for the past 4 years despite everything that has happened (insane promos, giveaways, critics, platform revamp/upgrade, etc). It has been a wonderful experience to participate in all that stake has offered over the years. Guys, don't forget to check your mails. In addition to the $400K giveaway, there would be 21 bonus drops as well as nsane prizes to be given away over the next 7 days. There's plenty to be excited about this period
Looks like we'll finally get some Watford promos once the premier league starts (according to the same said mail). Go check guys!
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Mahdirakib
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August 08, 2021, 06:29:46 PM |
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Anyone has good suggestions to wager for reaching plat 3 before ripping the rest of the balance? I have tried dice 1.1 and 1.01 but the loss streaks are more than 1 per 100 rolls. Plinko low 8 and baccarat also doesn't wager with 1:80 ratio.
Maximum win chance is 98% (at 1.0102× payout) in dice game. If you check the win chance then it's normal to get more than 1 loss per 100 rolls. It's better to play at 1.1× payout. How far you are from platinum 3 and what is your bankroll? The suggestion/strategy will depend on those two facts. ~snip~ They also launched a nice promotion to celebrate their partnership with Watford: https://promotions.stake.com/watford-epl-payout/All bets placed on Watford will be paid out, if they score first in the match (valid for all Premier League matches). Another good promo from Stake. But I'm wondering how they will giveaway the bonus of worth 10 million dogecoin to their user. Stake has already given out worth 2 million dogecoin as welcome bonus when they made the partnership (on 23rd July). And Stake said that they will give out more bonuses on this month to celebrate the partnership with Watford FC. BTW, Happy Birthday Stake!
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Anyone has good suggestions to wager for reaching plat 3 before ripping the rest of the balance? I have tried dice 1.1 and 1.01 but the loss streaks are more than 1 per 100 rolls. Plinko low 8 and baccarat also doesn't wager with 1:80 ratio.
That's somewhat normal when it comes to any game, at some point the ratio becomes uneven no matter what happens since there's the house edge. If you want to try a different game i'd suggest crash but it's time consuming compared to dice and plinko. Imo as long as you've wagered your deposit 100x or more then i'd say that's worth enough. I would say that crash game is not guaranteed in that matter neither. As long as there is a house edge it is obvious that we are not going to see any type of profit at all and the bankroll will fall, places will not give plat3 level of vip to people who just grind and not lose any money and move on, that is not how it works you do end up losing money because that is what house edge means to begin with. Dice is still better, it could be more than 1 out of 100 on average but then it may turn out none in 100 at certain time as well, it is better than everything else because it is quite high, find any method as much as you can to keep gambling but as long as you know what you are doing, you will realize it is not going to be cheap.
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August 08, 2021, 09:13:11 PM |
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Anyone has good suggestions to wager for reaching plat 3 before ripping the rest of the balance? I have tried dice 1.1 and 1.01 but the loss streaks are more than 1 per 100 rolls. Plinko low 8 and baccarat also doesn't wager with 1:80 ratio.
Maximum win chance is 98% (at 1.0102× payout) in dice game. If you check the win chance then it's normal to get more than 1 loss per 100 rolls. It's better to play at 1.1× payout. How far you are from platinum 3 and what is your bankroll? The suggestion/strategy will depend on those two facts. ~snip~ They also launched a nice promotion to celebrate their partnership with Watford: https://promotions.stake.com/watford-epl-payout/All bets placed on Watford will be paid out, if they score first in the match (valid for all Premier League matches). Another good promo from Stake. But I'm wondering how they will giveaway the bonus of worth 10 million dogecoin to their user. Stake has already given out worth 2 million dogecoin as welcome bonus when they made the partnership (on 23rd July). And Stake said that they will give out more bonuses on this month to celebrate the partnership with Watford FC. BTW, Happy Birthday Stake! Make sure you monitor social media like Telegram and twitter, yesterday the stake released the Drop on telegram 3 times a day and this will last for a week or as much as 21 Drops. You can also check the complete information in the email so don't miss it hope the monthly bonus increases 3x
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August 09, 2021, 03:51:34 AM |
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Congratulations on your 4 years of consistent and excellent service in the forum, cheers to more years in the online and crypto space. This is probably your biggest highlight of the year followed by Adesanya joining you in promoting the site on the octagon for millions of viewers to see.
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August 09, 2021, 04:27:01 AM |
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Congratulations on your 4 years of consistent and excellent service in the forum, cheers to more years in the online and crypto space. This is probably your biggest highlight of the year followed by Adesanya joining you in promoting the site on the octagon for millions of viewers to see.
Thanks, we've been in crypto gambling over 8 years now and it has been a thrilling ride to watch this brand start from zero and grow into a global name. Forever grateful to this community for giving us our start, where would we be without bitcointalk I wonder.
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August 09, 2021, 04:29:51 AM |
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Thanks, we've been in crypto gambling over 8 years now and it has been a thrilling ride to watch this brand start from zero and grow into a global name.
Congratulations, why is it "Stake turning 4" though when you've been here to 8 years already, it's indeed a thrilling ride and I feel like with your current business model and the prosperity that you're enjoying right now, we might see your company get much bigger. Again, a big congratulations to you and the team behind Stake.
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