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August 13, 2017, 01:59:13 PM
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Well these are your thoughts that prayers are useless.
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August 13, 2017, 09:28:55 PM
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Prayers are useful to our lives thus when combined with thoughts helps one to build faith in the thought, making it to come to pass. If we believe in the thing not seen, the thought would manifest. Reference to the bible, Hebrew chapter 11 vs 1 is instructive .

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August 14, 2017, 03:40:41 PM
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LOL. Like cats, they're pretty to look at and comforting though, even if they just linger and do nothing.  Grin
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August 14, 2017, 06:27:55 PM
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Is that two (or more?) thoughts and 1 prayer (counting as >1) or 2 (or >2?) prayers and one thought (counting as more than one)?


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August 14, 2017, 11:26:48 PM
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Is that two (or more?) thoughts and 1 prayer (counting as >1) or 2 (or >2?) prayers and one thought (counting as more than one)?

Or are all 3 named, "Thoughts and Prayers"?

Or maybe 1 is named Thoughts, 1 named And, and 1 named Prayers?

Either way, Thoughts and Prayers are useless... It has been scientifically proven
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August 15, 2017, 03:24:50 AM
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I think thoughts will be useless if they will remain thoughts! We need to act upon these thoughts for them to materialize. They won't come out magically from our thought bubbles. And even if we work and act on these thoughts, nothing would be instantaneous. Same for prayers, I believe they work. It's a matter of the subject and object of your prayers. I am speaking based on my personal experience and belief, but hey, I understand it really is hard for some also because of their experiences.

As for the cats, they are pretty much stuborn and independent.. I am not into pets in general, but my cousin used to have cats. While some just worn the furnitures off, some actually caught mice! Others, merely a recepient of my cousin's care, others a furball for cuddles.
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August 15, 2017, 03:57:53 AM
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Can't say they are completely useless. If the individual who pray gets some peace of mind as a result of it, then it is a productive activity. Even I used to pray when I was a kid. My parents told me that if I pray to the god, I will get whatever I wish for. But when I grew up, I realized the futility of wasting our valuable time on prayers.

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Can't say they are completely useless. If the individual who pray gets some peace of mind as a result of it, then it is a productive activity. Even I used to pray when I was a kid. My parents told me that if I pray to the god, I will get whatever I wish for. But when I grew up, I realized the futility of wasting our valuable time on prayers.


Nothing is completely useless; but it's true, there is no divine hand to twist to your will, and children should never be taught that in any case, by nobody, least by their parents... but speaking of thoughts, I marvel at thoughts and imagination because I believe that is where magic happens. Look around at absolutely anything (except nature) big or small, and you will witness all that is - a lot of man made stuff - and every single one of those things started out as a thought!


Edit: exception - radio active waste is extremely useless though.

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I totally disagree with you on this one, you thought may be useless based on the fact that their are products of your heart, and the state of your heart is determine the quality of your thought.
But prayer is the process of communicating with God, where you speak and God listen.
And God speak and you listen and take action.
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August 15, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
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When you are expecting that your prayers will come true then you will be disappointed some of prayers are already came that you need to be thankful i don't know why other always saying that prayers are useless its useful because there are many things that happens to our lives that we need to thank like we always woke up everyday

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August 15, 2017, 02:31:50 PM
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Thought and Prayers are not useless (the cats), why would you keep them if they are useless in the first place? Like the real thought and prayers, lots of people are hanging on to this things because it can make them feel better or keep on hoping for something to happen. The only negative thing about thought and prayer is if you don't do anything about your thought and prayer.
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Very subtle humor Grin Grin Grin
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It's just your opinion.
Prayers are more internal reflection and inner talk between our spirit self and spiritual world, not something what can fulfill your wishes right away.
If your wishes are selfish, don't expect that someone will help you and fulfill it for you.
Spiritually we are like small children or babies and our wishes are often immature and selfish.
When we invest more in our spiritual growth, we become more mature and more close to God's hearth and love.
Only than we will see fulfillment of our prayers.



 

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Thoughts and prayers for me is not useless.
For me, it gives us courage and determination when we feel that we are alone, when we think that there is no one we can depend on.
Its a belief that we are useful. Prayers leads us to a better way. Instead of overthinking, when we say a prayer, we are starting to forget the bad things that are happening and it gives us an assurance that everything will turn out to be good.
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It's just your opinion.
Prayers are more internal reflection and inner talk between our spirit self and spiritual world, not something what can fulfill your wishes right away.
If your wishes are selfish, don't expect that someone will help you and fulfill it for you.
Spiritually we are like small children or babies and our wishes are often immature and selfish.
When we invest more in our spiritual growth, we become more mature and more close to God's hearth and love.
Only than we will see fulfillment of our prayers.

Just my opinion?  God only answers unselfish prayers?

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Try praying for an amputee to regrow his legs back... let me know when god fails to answer you unselfish prayer
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August 21, 2017, 01:11:36 PM
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Prayers can not be completely useless, they help a person program themselves for success and for achieving great heights, sometimes it helps to recover. Of course, one does not have to rely on one prayer, but it's worth trying.
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Prayer is powerful thats we need in every time of our life talking to God
Because we dont know what  happen next.
And prayer leads us to the better way to teach us what is good and bad.
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Prayer is nothing but a powerful placebo. We’d all be better off accepting that. When it comes down to it, prayer is illogical, even in religious terms. If God has a plan, why try to thwart it? If God can be swayed by prayers, what kind of God would allow the horrors we see in the world? And if two devout believers pray for different things, how does God choose the winner?
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When we pray, body, soul, spirit become calm and walk in a harmony, our result we get balance of body which is very useful for health. after praying, we will usually feel peaceful, calm, and happy.

And this is proof, that praying will trigger the emergence of a positive psychological response.our stress hormone levels are also reduced.

The most important thing, prayer is also able to maintain our immune system. so we are not sick easily.

A happy heart is a potent medicine

In addition to slowing down and working the brain, praying will also reduce heart rate and blood pressure.

It will all make us relax.

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Thoughts and prayer are esential in our life wether we accept it or not when we are in danger the first thing that comes in our thought is to pray.. To ask for help especially when it is beyond our capacity to save..our prayer may not be answered the way we expect to, but that doesn't mean He has no ability to save us nor response to our request.
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prayer really is important because through prayer we here we talk interesting God here we ask forgiveness for our sins. really important that we always pray to God to guide
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Prayer is not useless for as long as one believe in GOD, the reason why we pray because we all need help, we need somebody whose powerful, all knowing  and all sufficient God to assist us,to guide us, and to usher us into doing good and becoming the good person that we always want to be..our thoughts and prayer would only be useless if without faith.. In this world full of wickedness and corruption we all need God to save us and assure us of our salvation.

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Thoughts is actually useful because it give us the idea of something and by thinking of what we had thought about we can act upon it with certainty. Without the use of thoughts, we might not be able to assure something before we act upon it. Then there are prayers, believe it or not, it is also helpful, of course not that it serves a specific purpose physically, but it can actually help calm our mind mentally. Praying and being able to believe that something is actually going to happen gives the person an optimistic perspective of the situation which is useful to a lot of ways, because of motivation and inspiration for it of coming true.

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Lol. Thoughts and prayers look cute though. But i don't agree that they're useless. Well not the cats that is. Its a way to reach out and send support to other people even though it doesn't really do anything physically.

 
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To give men peace in the whole world...
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There is no need for me to share my thoughts here because to you it will be useless and no need for me to pray for you because it will also be useless.
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For me, prayers is talking to our internal being, our creator and thoughts or meditation is listening to our creator. So basically its talking and listening. It is actually advisable to listen more and to talk, so meditate more after your praying time.
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You think thought and prayers are useless like the cats because they are relaxing. Thought and prayers are the most effective way of achieving success in whatever you do.
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Prayer is powerful thats we need in every time of our life talking to God
Because we dont know what  happen next.
And prayer leads us to the better way to teach us what is good and bad.


I respect your ideas which you have mentioned above but Thoughts and prayers are completely useless without effort to reach our goals. If people wants to gain their desires , they must work hard for them. Praying just brings inner peace not realities for sure.

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I believe that prayer is our way of communicating and reaching God. Through prayers we are sharing all our problems and burdens unto God. We are able to express what we feel through prayers and we are able to ask what we need through prayers. Prayer is a powerful weapon of those who are in need of help.

 
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The mind is an unspoken Prayer, and its energy is much stronger than speech, because the Mind (reason) is a gift of God that is only given to human beings as an enhanced being.

We are born without weapons, Our mind is our only weapon.

an unspoken prayer stored in our dominant minds, is released through the electric vibrations of the brain and resonates with the electrical energy of the universe, then bounces back to us in the physical form, idea, behavior or attitude as well as the reality of the experience corresponding to what iswe think.

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thoughts and prayers. Sometimes there are things we want to take or we let us, things we must pray to the Lord that he will guide us to the everyday life we. When we pray to god, all the things we want it to be granted. Prayer to God is more powers at all.
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When we pray to god, all the things we want it to be granted. Prayer to God is more powers at all.

But your god is all powerful and has a plan for you.  Why are you telling him you know better?  :/

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When we pray to god, all the things we want it to be granted. Prayer to God is more powers at all.

But your god is all powerful and has a plan for you.  Why are you telling him you know better?  :/
God certainly has a plan for everyone, but He also leaves free choice, so it's very right to say what you want Smiley
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God certainly has a plan for everyone, but He also leaves free choice, so it's very right to say what you want

That is really something I have never understood. Why should a god or God who knows everything and has a plan for everything listen to our prayers and change its plan afterwards? Shouldn't he know beforehand what we want and why should he bother what I want since I would not understand his plan anyway (per definition)?
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We often try to ask the heaven, may be God, something that we think we need, what we think is right. In this endeavor we sometimes don't think about what is considered from the position of the heaven a request  an appeal. What thoughts and words go quickly upward to the heavenly office and why and which remain unanswered..
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well , one can be thinking and not praying but you cannot pray without thinking.
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well , one can be thinking and not praying but you cannot pray without thinking.

I agree with you that one may have thoughts and may not pray about it , but most of the time prayers comes from the thoughts of the hearts and believe in the words of God. Thoughts may come as a result of challenges or prolong expectations which may lead to prayers .

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Thoughts and prayers = hopes and dreams. Lost dreams that is.
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That's how you see them, without seeing the important of these two cats you will never realized the help that they can. Same as prayer, prayer is very useful to all believers in God, but to those who are not it is just a waste of time. I

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Prayers are just prayers if we didn't do anything. No matter what we wished or asked for it, it still never be granted if there is no effort in our part. A lot of people just pray and pray to succeed in life but all they do is to wake up late,eat, watch tv and use smartphone until midnight. I hate to say it but a lot of people are doing this. Let me know if you also know someone like that. Maybe we can pray for them to have a job and be useful.

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My thoughts and prayers is for world peace. No more wars. There will be no division of nations. Prayer is the only means of bringing orderliness and peace & repose in our daily acts.
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Yes I believe in fate. Sometimes the road of life takes an unexpected turn and you have no choice but to follow it to end up in the place you are supposed to be
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I really believe in the power of positive thinking, because I have often been convinced how it works on my own life...therefore I can safely recommend not to focus on problems, but to inspire yourself and surround yourself with beautiful things and ideas and positive people
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Your life is investing in bitcoin. You need to think to invest in it to get the best profit. And you need to pray for bitcoin not to lose. The bridge for bitcoin exists and grows stronger.
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Thoughts and prayers = hopes and dreams. Lost dreams that is.
Prayer is our direct/address line to God. It is the process that allows us to talk directly to God. In our prayers, we adore Him, we ask Him forgiveness for all the wrong things we've done, we say our hearth felt thanksgiving to Him for all the blessings we received. Prayer is very important in our daily living, so, we must pray without ceasing.
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Prayer is powerful and important in our daily living we should thanks god for giving us everything we should not every forget god us our creator nothing impossible with god

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Prayers are useful to our lives thus when combined with thoughts helps one to build faith in the thought, making it to come to pass. If we believe in the thing not seen, the thought would manifest. Reference to the bible, Hebrew chapter 11 vs 1 is instructive .


I agree with you.. Prayer is actually our very powerful weapon against temptations and trials in life. It is our way to communicate with God. We must pray in every moment of our lives. When we experience great things , pray and be grateful. In times of trouble , pray and God will give us peace. Even Jesus prayed with His father before.
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The communion begins with the thought of God. Many unbaptized in childhood, having comprehended their life, accept the Holy Sacrament of Baptism in adulthood. Cognition occurs through the Word of God delivered to us - the Holy Scripture, through which God speaks to us. Prayer is our conversion to God, our way of knowing the spiritual world, this is the breath through which the energies of the Spirit are saturated.
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I agree with you.. Prayer is actually our very powerful weapon against temptations and trials in life. It is our way to communicate with God. We must pray in every moment of our lives. When we experience great things , pray and be grateful. In times of trouble , pray and God will give us peace. Even Jesus prayed with His father before.

But what the point in hating that prayers? They're useless only for themselves and doing no harm to other peoples. Let them go and mind your own business.
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Thoughts and prayers are the manifestation that we believe in Divine Power and intervention. Through prayers we can strengthen our faith to those we cannot see. It helps us releases our anxiety and burden. It can help us to have peace within. It is the most powerful weapon to defeat our own weaknessess.
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Prayers are useful to our lives thus when combined with thoughts helps one to build faith in the thought, making it to come to pass. If we believe in the thing not seen, the thought would manifest. Reference to the bible, Hebrew chapter 11 vs 1 is instructive .
Prayer is a connection between us and God, in which we feel His presence with us and us with Him too. In prayer we raise our hearts and minds to God and speak with Him with  a trusting heart. Prayer is very important.
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I think prayers are useless. Helping hands are better then praying hands. Instead of praying, what people should do is to donate money, help rebuild damaged property, or do literally anything that would benefit those affected.

Don't pray to end cancer, donate! Even if God did exist, he doesn't care about helping your loved ones so unfortunately, the responsibility is on those who actually exist to make life awesome for everyone.
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Prayer is a medium of communication between God and man.. And God is omniscient.. And our thoughts will see and understand by God.. Thought are made to see and think how great is thy work.. To be thankful to Him.. And that is very important.. That is all I know
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Thoughts form before words. Action is the fruit of thinking. Thinking first before words or actions. There is always first before anything else. Thoughts form before prayer. Thoughts drive first to move a person into prayer. Without any thoughts nothing to pray. Thoughts make sense to prayer.

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Thoughts and Prayers is all we need to feed our spiritual life,prayers is  powerful,it is the only way to talk to our God,and it will help us to have peace of mind ,and how to handle things into the right desicions.
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January 29, 2018, 04:55:11 PM
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Depending on one's beliefs, whether thoughts and prayers are useful. but for me the prayer is one important factor besides the effort to be done to get something that is in my desire. because prayer can fulfill the needs of life and also provide peace for life
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January 29, 2018, 05:00:26 PM
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 Thoughts and prayers are spiritual energy, received by God, which we can use to help others.
Its powerful tool to protect somebody, to create positive energy, atmosphere and to improve internal situation of other people.
Prayers are also personal talks with our Heavenly Father.
Don't neglect it.

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February 06, 2018, 04:25:20 AM
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Is a phrase often used when offering condolences
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February 06, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
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Oh that's funny and very sarcastic, i like it Wink
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February 20, 2018, 01:44:38 AM
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I think they are useless. Instead of praying, what people s hould do is donate money, help rebuild damaged property, or do literally anything that would benefit those affected.

Don't pray to end cancer, donate! Even if God did exist, he doesn't care about helping your loved ones so unfortunately, the responsibility is on those who actually exist to make life awesome for everyone.
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February 20, 2018, 02:25:14 AM
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Prayer works! And when your thoughts turns to prayers, you're surrendering it to the Almighty One. But don't just stand there and do nothing about your thoughts. The Lord has the mercy and guidance but the actions are still up to the person.
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March 14, 2018, 03:46:28 AM
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Is that two (or more?) thoughts and 1 prayer (counting as >1) or 2 (or >2?) prayers and one thought (counting as more than one)?

Or are all 3 named, "Thoughts and Prayers"?

Or maybe 1 is named Thoughts, 1 named And, and 1 named Prayers?

Either way, Thoughts and Prayers are useless... It has been scientifically proven

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March 14, 2018, 05:30:39 AM
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I think doing this both is the key to life, it helps a lot lot in any endeavors.
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March 17, 2018, 02:26:09 AM
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I think its better to rely on your hands and hardworks rather than relying on thoughts and prayers as they are true imposters
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March 17, 2018, 02:39:54 AM
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Prayer is a wonderful gift from God it's the key that unlocks all doors and the answer to all our problems.The bible tells us to pray whenever we or someone we love are in trouble.Be greatly Blessed...
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March 17, 2018, 02:57:49 AM
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Prayers is our special weapon in our life.through prayers we become best friend of God.Prayers shows that we have the faith to reach out God and to know that god hear you.
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March 17, 2018, 07:35:22 AM
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Good pick up line but I do not agree with you. Thoughts and prayers will be our guide and it can sometimes give you strength whenever you need. When you are tired, pray for some energy that can help you finish the day. I always do that. I realize that most of us are busy and there is no one that can help us if we are tired. Prayers can help you in those situations. Try it, it will work if you believe on it. The mind is so powerful, also GOD.

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March 17, 2018, 07:58:42 AM
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Prayer is our way to communicate with God. Through it, we can release all our loneliness and burdens in life. It's like we're just talking to our bestfriend. Through it, we will be able to release all our anxieties in life. We could also ask for help and guidance throug it. Through our faith, we could really move things.

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March 17, 2018, 10:26:36 AM
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Thoughts and Prayers is an expression of sympathy typically offered toward the victims of large-scale disasters and tragedies. Thoughts and prayers are the only thing that could stop the evil behind mass shootings. It is also is a phrase often used when offering condolences, support in evil time to others.
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March 17, 2018, 11:33:07 AM
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Dedication to your thoughts and prayers will definitely work out and I believe they are not useless.
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March 18, 2018, 12:32:02 AM
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For weak persons thoughts are something that entertains them and is the cause of their prayer to realise the thoughts
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March 18, 2018, 01:37:59 AM
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Pikiran dan doa itu selaras, karena dari pikiran akan terucap meskipun hanya ucapan dari hati ataupun lisan, dan yang terucap dari lisan ataupun hati itu sama dengan doa....
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March 19, 2018, 04:38:04 AM
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I don't think thought is useless. they keep us turned on till we get our goals but yes nowadays prayers are useless
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