RX VEGA 64 ETHEREUM MINING HASHRATE REVEALED!!!!!!!

[MTHOZ]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64,5173-16.html

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[d57heinz]

Feels a bit like a kick in the you know where:). Still having trouble topping the r9390 I see.  Hardly worth the price increase.  Guess if your the type that needs the latest greatest thing then this seems right up your alley.  Having to take a pass.  Back to second hand market for me   

[VoskCoin]

What happened to the 60-100 mh/s rumors?

[sevenmiles]

What happened to the 60-100 mh/s rumors?

Obviously, that's a lie

[winniethepool]

Long live RX470!  Let's collect all second hand cheap cards!

[Biodom]

I hope that this is not a final word.

How could a card with 5X TFLOPS and 2x power use be almost at the same level?

Got one Vega 64 card (one per f-king household), not sure if I even want it.
Maybe will use it anyway for a bit.

Greedy XFX plopped another $100 on the top of MSRP. $599.99 before tax (not even a limited edition), bastards.

This might cause RX 480/580 8gb to increase in price to $400 (minimum), RX 470/570 8gb to $350.

[MTHOZ]

such a  disappointment while lots of rumors saying its gonna mine at 70-100 mh/s

[uDwcHYO]

We will hope that something will change, software, drivers or something else.
Why was it necessary to talk about 60+ megahashes if after the first tests everyone knows what really is the performance. In my opinion it was just to attract attention.

[jpoker272727]

How powersave has a better hashrate comparing to Turbo?

One thing that are not matching is the hashrate reported in the website and in the Image above, is 1080 TI better than the RX VEGA 64 or not yet?

[crazydane]

And how much power does RX VEGA consume doing that 35 mh/s compared to a 1080Ti doing 32 mh/s?

[bearsworth]

Haha i knew it. Rx 580/1070/480 will be king.

[Shnikes101]

Well let's hope miner optimization (looking at your claymore   ) and either some bios changes or memory tweaks help...

I got 3 orders to go through today. Hopefully they all ship. A couple orders of my orders got cancelled due to the 1 per household limit.

Thankfully ebay prices are currently through the roof. If I get them in hand, I may dump them...

[Vann]

Well let's hope miner optimization (looking at your claymore  ) and either some bios changes or memory tweaks help...

I got 3 orders to go through today. Hopefully they all ship. A couple orders of my orders got cancelled due to the 1 per household limit.

Thankfully ebay prices are currently through the roof. If I get them in hand, I may dump them...

PC Gamer already got the Vega 64 to 40 MH/s right out of the box with just a memory overclock. Once the bios and miners are optimized it should get past 50 MH/s. eBay is a scammers paradise where any buyer can claim anything they want without having to prove anything and eBay is more than willing to go along with them at your expense.

[juvx]

I managed to order 2 on newegg this morning so ill let yall know for sure thursday night.

[alucard20724]

I have an XFX Vega 64.  On claymore's Ethash2gb i'm getting 34.5 MH/s and with regular Ethash i'm getting 30.2 MH/s.   everything stock... can't seem to adjust anything.  I would like to turn the fan up but nothing so far will let me.   Stays at 81C @49% fan (2400rpm)

[namjey]

Hmmm... I really don't know if i have to order some.... I will just hope that claymore will do some optimization and hash rate will go up.

[NameTaken]

I have an XFX Vega 64.  On claymore's Ethash2gb i'm getting 34.5 MH/s and with regular Ethash i'm getting 30.2 MH/s.   everything stock... can't seem to adjust anything.  I would like to turn the fan up but nothing so far will let me.   Stays at 81C @49% fan (2400rpm)

Please also test other miners and algorithms.

[philipma1957]

I had a pair of 1080 tis come today they are doing fine  bring in about 10 dollars a day.  5 each = 10 bucks.

[Set Ready Go]

I have an XFX Vega 64.  On claymore's Ethash2gb i'm getting 34.5 MH/s and with regular Ethash i'm getting 30.2 MH/s.   everything stock... can't seem to adjust anything.  I would like to turn the fan up but nothing so far will let me.   Stays at 81C @49% fan (2400rpm)

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What drivers are you using for the vega64 ?



 

[jedigeiss]

Ah well that's a bit of a disappointment somehow...

[Socket54]

If this is true i would expect these to be dumped on ebay in favor of more profitable to power ratio cards. Disappointing news to say the least.

[belaweb2]

I had a pair of 1080 tis come today they are doing fine  bring in about 10 dollars a day.  5 each = 10 bucks.

 What are you mining to get 5 $ per TI?

[Metroid]

This is a very good news you stupid greedy trolls, go find a cave to live in you creatures. Now finally gamers will have  a good card to buy. RX VEGA is better than gtx 1070 and Polaris which means pol;aris and gtx 1070 will have abundant in stock from now on.

[Lucred]

Big disappointment for the guys that are waiting for 100'ish hashrates. Also this is a very good news for the gamers that are waiting to buy a graphic card. Personally, I was aware that 80-100 hashrates were nothing but rumors but a part of me was hyped to see the benchmarks.

[jmigdlc99]

AMD did poorly on this one. They should have at least warned us that the 60-100 MH rumor is not real.

I had a pair of 1080 tis come today they are doing fine  bring in about 10 dollars a day.  5 each = 10 bucks.

What are you mining on those 1080tis that bring $5 each?

[damniatx]

Skunk nicehash should be giving you $5 a day with 1080Ti

[gammagreen]

This is a very good news you stupid greedy trolls, go find a cave to live in you creatures. Now finally gamers will have  a good card to buy. RX VEGA is better than gtx 1070 and Polaris which means pol;aris and gtx 1070 will have abundant in stock from now on.

gamer is not a fool.no one will buy garbage instead of 1070 etc.

[Metroid]

This is a very good news you stupid greedy trolls, go find a cave to live in you creatures. Now finally gamers will have  a good card to buy. RX VEGA is better than gtx 1070 and Polaris which means pol;aris and gtx 1070 will have abundant in stock from now on.

gamer is not a fool.no one will buy garbage instead of 1070 etc.

Are you demented? Vega is way better than gtx 1070 by a long shot. The power consumption is not a concerning for a gamer. They dont care if it uses more power as long the performance pays out, so meaning, they will prefer vega 100000x times than gtx 1070. I'm a gamer and by what I saw, I would prefer vega than all except 1080 ti.

[adaseb]

The reason for the low hashrate is because its the way Dagger algo was designed. Its the same reason why Fuji wasn't that much faster than most other cards.

They designed it this way most likely to prevent ASICs.

I am sure in other algos like ZEC or SHA256 it will murder most GPUs.

[Metroid]

The reason for the low hashrate is because its the way Dagger algo was designed. Its the same reason why Fuji wasn't that much faster than most other cards.

They designed it this way most likely to prevent ASICs.

I am sure in other algos like ZEC or SHA256 it will murder most GPUs.

Yes, so true, I still cant understand why people fell for such a trick. I mean, there was nothing to show VEGA did 70 - 100, i mean nothing at all, no screenshots, nothing..period, and ebay scammers kept hyping so people with more money than sense would preorder cards from their already pre-orders hehe, I wonder how much money gibbo from overclocks uk made this time hehe, cause I'm sure he is part of a huge ebay mafia scam.

[TenaciousJ]

The reason for the low hashrate is because its the way Dagger algo was designed. Its the same reason why Fuji wasn't that much faster than most other cards.

They designed it this way most likely to prevent ASICs.

I am sure in other algos like ZEC or SHA256 it will murder most GPUs.

Yes, so true, I still cant understand why people fell for such a trick. I mean, there was nothing to show VEGA did 70 - 100, i mean nothing at all, no screenshots, nothing..period, and ebay scammers kept hyping so people with more money than sense would preorder cards from their already pre-orders hehe, I wonder how much money gibbo from overclocks uk made this time hehe, cause I'm sure he is part of a huge ebay mafia scam.

Lol... they sold out on the first day, and the same day people listed them on ebay for over $1000 thinking they were going to be great mining cards.  Jokes on them. I doubt any gamer is going to pay more than double retail price for a card that doesn't get better framerates than a 1080 Ti.

I don't think Vega will be better at Equihash either, since it has a slower core clock, and Equihash is core intensive rather than memory intensive.  Nvidia will still be faster than any Vega model as a result of their much faster core speed and wide ranging core overclock ability.  

Of course there is the possibility that AMD intentionally nerfed mining capabilities on the card to let gamers have a chance to pick the cards up at a decent price, and later on they'll 'unleash the beast' so to speak opening up real mining performance in later bios/drivers. 

[gammagreen]

This is a very good news you stupid greedy trolls, go find a cave to live in you creatures. Now finally gamers will have  a good card to buy. RX VEGA is better than gtx 1070 and Polaris which means pol;aris and gtx 1070 will have abundant in stock from now on.

gamer is not a fool.no one will buy garbage instead of 1070 etc.

Are you demented? Vega is way better than gtx 1070 by a long shot. The power consumption is not a concerning for a gamer. They dont care if it uses more power as long the performance pays out, so meaning, they will prefer vega 100000x times than gtx 1070. I'm a gamer and by what I saw, I would prefer vega than all except 1080 ti.

first of all,very few gamers choose RADEON for gaming. geforce experience is so good.
and here: https://videocardz.com/71776/amd-is-trying-to-sell-radeon-rx-vega-64-at-a-higher-price
not sold proper price. you choose it in this situation?OK!!! you are RADEON devotees.

you said " gtx 1070 will have abundant in stock from now on " but many gamers has had a information that VEGA is like 1080 as to performance.
so only a few people wait for VEGA release without miners.

[Chisinau]

Lol... they sold out on the first day, and the same day people listed them on ebay for over $1000 thinking they were going to be great mining cards.  Jokes on them. I doubt any gamer is going to pay more than double retail price for a card that doesn't get better framerates than a 1080 Ti.

Hope those eBay parasites who bought all Vega's and included the lie about 70-100 MHs to make a quick $$$  will get most returned . That would be funny , greedy bastards deserve it !
Been waiting for Vega so long , not for mining , just to have fun and play with it and it boils the blood when see those assholes reselling them at eBay . They bastards been waiting down there , like hyenas , to snatch all they can when sales went off

[huynhdat1989]

Do you know where to buy this card in the USA? I google all online stores, and none of store have it.

[faxxer]

That's mean RX470 is the best card right now, you can get 4 used RX470 for 1 VEGA.

[toptek]

Do you know where to buy this card in the USA? I google all online stores, and none of store have it.

New egg had some "I Think"I got a email from new egg telling me to per order by 6 am i try to, so I go  there it was a dead link and now they post all the Vega with the 499.99  price tag  i tried to per order sold out and all the other Vega 64 599.99 an up  out of stock ... which makes no sense unless we have to tell them in a email  ..so guess it's buy more NV now sense i Zec mine more then ETH.

[heavyarms1912]

This is a very good news you stupid greedy trolls, go find a cave to live in you creatures. Now finally gamers will have  a good card to buy. RX VEGA is better than gtx 1070 and Polaris which means pol;aris and gtx 1070 will have abundant in stock from now on.

gamer is not a fool.no one will buy garbage instead of 1070 etc.

gtx 1070 is more appealing than Vega 64 @ $599 imo.  Why would anyone spend $599 over a $420 card for similar performance?  Vega 64 @ 499 and Vega 56 @ 399 still made much more sense given the Freesync capabilities and knowing that rest of the gaming HW (Freesync monitors) would be cheaper compared to a Nvidia platform.  But given the pricing, I never saw an AMD card listed at MSRP.  Same thing happened with Polaris cards too?  Listed at $199 but were being sold for $229/$239 while gtx 1060 were already at that price range.

[soothaa]

Wow talk about a disappointment. I guess those poor poor gamers will now be able to buy cards.. 

I really do not understand how these numbers are even possible though. This thing does not even match the Fury in performance yet uses more power? These things really do not make any sense for mining at all.. I wonder if that was AMD's plan? Perhaps they have gimped it via the drivers for the initial release and will unlock more speed later once they have more in stock?

[hackmyl1fe]

Fucking shit, would of been awesome to get 70-100MH/S. but 30 is more realistic I guess

[ghostwalker.ph]

What a laugh. People are hyped after revealing that it can push up to 100mh/s and beyond. nvidia still wins the gpu race.

[tflux99]

RX VEGA = EPIC FAIL i thought amd would glow up in new light of glory come back to the good old times amd had k6 prcoessor to fight against intel.... first threadripper i thought wow amd looks good to challenge intel since years if not dicades hehe then rx vega with specs of around 70 mh/s ethereum then the first downswing radeon vega FE a absolute shit card hehe and then rx vega same shit differnt name so in my eyes amd will loose more ground in gpu market compared to nvidia amd gpus for gameing hey come one there is i just know one game where they perform better than nvidia and this is a little to nothing... if amd would support the gamers they have to deliver a gaming card one thats in time 1080ti is along time on the marked vega should minimum reach same performance as this card in games with lower watts... no gamer will ever buy this rx veag thing that throttles like hell with 300 watts lol what a joke ppl dont buy rx vega its bullshit for mining and for gaming !!!! even a 1070 is better in gaming it just uses half of the energy think about it... in ethereum a 1070 is also better you can crazy undervolt like 60% and minus 100 mhz to core clock and still reach fullspeed in eth singlemining... sry4bad english iam usually only a reader not posting alot of things hehe too lazy but this time i have to warn the comunity dont pay 1000 of dollars for a stupid lazy lame card that has nothing fancy new hehe

[sigiel]

anybody  read?


current DAG 138

benchmark dag 160 ....

so ....

[namjey]

so is the vega worth it's money? should I order? or am i better off with 1080ti

[Wotan Wipeout]

You better order a 1070....

[MTHOZ]

Haha i knew it. Rx 580/1070/480 will be king.

also gtx 1060,470 and 570

[jmigdlc99]

Ive read from our local FB group that using the new AMD blockchain drivers boosts Vega's hashrates up to 40+ MHs.

Has anyone tried? Any news on this?

[namjey]

I don't think there is a reson to buy vega unless we get some huge improvements from miner developers along with amd team

[hackmyl1fe]

I don't think there is a reson to buy vega unless we get some huge improvements from miner developers along with amd team

Ya the hashrate is not high enought to justify building a rig with them

[papasmurf1337]

I though Vega 64 will be something amazing for miners, but it is not worth of that money.
My opinion that it will be tweeked maximum up to 50mh/s so again not worth.
Bad hashrate, big consumption, big temperature...what else to say?

[Set Ready Go]

I though Vega 64 will be something amazing for miners, but it is not worth of that money.
My opinion that it will be tweeked maximum up to 50mh/s so again not worth.
Bad hashrate, big consumption, big temperature...what else to say?

There are still optimizations to be done  and the 56 and nano are still coming aswell.

[wtfonly16]

any news ?

[coinzoid]

Vega looks like not a massive competitor to rx series. So owners of rx series gpus will still be happy mining using existing gpus.

[newfulluser]

My RX470 4GB can reach 30mh/s, they got the shittiest card in the market if it only gave them 19mh/s

[Wwac]

my rx470's are giving me hashrates between 20 mh/s and 27 mh/s depending on the type of memory

[Za1n]

Ive read from our local FB group that using the new AMD blockchain drivers boosts Vega's hashrates up to 40+ MHs.

Has anyone tried? Any news on this?

There were a few videos on launch day that showed different people getting it to upper 30's and I believe low 40's, as in 42 Mh/s, but the power usage was unreal. They needed to crank Power limit up to the max and I believe they system with just one VEGA card was using close to 479 watts. Even accounting for system overhead, that is about a 10 watt per 1 Mhash/s ratio. Properly tweaked 1080Ti's or RX580's get closer to only 5 watts per megahash, so essentially to get those super high hash-rates the Vega consumes twice as much power as its nearest competitor. So unless you get free power it is not worth it. Even if you do get free power, the upfront price makes it not worth it.

[steve666]

https://www.purepc.pl/image/news/2017/08/31_amd_radeon_rx_vega_56_przyspiesza_z_biosem_od_vegi_64_2_b.jpg

 

[coinzoid]

I wouldn't use such device unless I'm offered free electricity. Maybe they will reveal better hashrate / power related bioses.

[polylogic]

give it some time and People maybe tweak the Card for even better results.
but nvidia always had the upper Hand in the gpu buisness.
also i believe current Technology is very much at the Limit.
next stop Quantum computing

[fr4nkthetank]

those graphs are for a far away (well not so far) epoch I believe...and without the dag fix.  So yeah, there wont be much speed loss.  I wish I could buy a god damn VEGA 56 or 64, and underclock and undervolt (if possible) the shit out of those cards.  I'm sure you can dual mine at 40mhs for 150w-200w, I can feeeeel it.  but in any case they are really expensive.

[Apneal]

Those graphs are actually for unoptimized cards. No BIOS mod, no overclock, just stock. As you see, with BIOS mods and overclock, 580's get +30% hashrate. It'll take some time before anyone can get into the Vega BIOS, but when that's hashed out (pun intended) then you could expect about the same +30% (bringing us to ~46MH/s). Drivers are still immature and could push this number a bit further (~50MH/s?) which is actually really good considering that no one who has messed with R9 Nano/Fury expected the Vega to be good at mining Ethereum.

For ether, these could be a good way to save on system overhead eventually (less cpu/mobo/etc per MH/s, these still wont be the best ROI) but Ethereum probably won't be the profitable coin to mine at that time. Given >4 months, I do expect the Vega to be the best price point for the performance for the most profitable GPU coin. Also, my one Vega64 is a fantastic gaming card compared to the 580 I used before. I expect 580 resell value to drop to ~200 in 4 months while Vega will hold its value.

[badfad]

I caved in to my inner nerd and placed an order for a 56.
Let's see how it goes, I'm dying to tinker with it.

So many clock/power and so many algos to sample  

It only costs 800 $$, and the cheapest 1080ti goes for 100 $ more.

[GabryRox]

What a laugh. People are hyped after revealing that it can push up to 100mh/s and beyond. nvidia still wins the gpu race.

Agree with your hype statement, but Nvidia didnt win any race except mining ZEC and a couple other almost unknown coins. The fact is that rx 470's are still the king of mining.  Even after all these new GPUs coming out that are supposed "killers" but guess what?  They cost 3-4x what a 470 does, and can't even do anywhere near even 2x the 470.  For pure hashrate/wattage/cost ratio, there is nothing even close to a 470... even a used one that costs 25% more than original retail lol.

[GabryRox]

My RX470 4GB can reach 30mh/s, they got the shittiest card in the market if it only gave them 19mh/s

Wow! 30mh/s with a 470?  That's about the best i've seen... but your point is totally valid, even for those of us with 470s running in the more regular 27-ish range.  Heck, even right out of the box with no bios mod and no overclock, most of my MSIs got in the 22 range. So clearly something is wrong with that chart.

[MA3A]

gigabyte vega64 8gb/700$ + tax - stock clocks/speeds - pc eats at the wall 300-400W when mining, hash rates are not impressive at all, unless tweaked - for this amount i say screw it.

[dadesu]

My RX470 4GB can reach 30mh/s, they got the shittiest card in the market if it only gave them 19mh/s

Almost all msi rx 470 4gb gaming x I moded have speed of about 29m, but most depend on memory on cards.
Some cards with samsung memory can easy go on 30m, buth with micron hardly on 28.5m. In any case never
seen cards with 19m, maybe they limited speed on new ones to prevent mining on gaming cards...

[wtfonly16]

why do people keep talking about the 470 in that graph?

nobody fucking cares, everyone knows the 470 is miles better.
 the real problem is how shit the rx56 64 series is.

[MA3A]

So i have played a bit wit with wattman... if you force card to work on top clocks (boost mode) watage at the wall significantly increases to 450-50OWatt on VEGA64 8GB ... and all this without viable increase in hashing... Win 10 64bit refused to take driver no matter what and caused BSOD in atikmdag.sys (system thread exception not handled) every time driver install re-attempted. System has no hardware problems for a fact and all updates installed. This was with crimson relive 17.8.2 which was the latest at that moment. Ended up installing it on win7 64bit

[Antonbg1]

I reach 41.420 Mh/s with Vega 56 with bios for Vega 64 and Claymore setup  -cvddc 850 -cclock 877 -mclock 1025  -powlim -8,-14,-14,-14 ...temperature target in Wattman should be 62 not 75 .... but for this to much power

[Wwac]

Price/Hashrate = Totally not interesting

[risinqsun]

What happened to the 60-100 mh/s rumors?

Unfortunately a complete disappointment maybe next year it comes

[oblione]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/74hjqn/monero_and_vega_the_definitive_guide/

[Disallowedword]

Eventually there will be a bios mod spoon fed to the public and the Vegas will disappear from the shelves. Just as the 460- 470s and other" fkd up cards" have.
If enough people fk up and buy the wrong GPU, someone will build a miner or modded bios for them!

IMO the Vega still looks promising as I have not seen anyone actually address this new memory type! The Vega might be a winner with some decent firmware!

[dEVILminer13]

 im running 2 vega 64's  i my hash for ethereum is around 43 out of each card steady, with monero and sumokoin, i get 1020 out of each card steady but have to do some thing in the wattman... you have to have 8gigs of ram to open the hbcc memory in the global settings.  turn that all the way up when doing cryptonight coins. also with monero and sumokoin and other cyrptonight coins you can us the card as 2 threads. do that in the config file. as far as power usage i dont have a thing to measure it. but i do know my bill was about 30 dollars more then usual.

[RIGED]

kids.....

im running 8 VEGA 64's on an ASUS B250 mining  expert mobo

with some driver trixing and Wattman magic, i am getting a very stable 43,7MH/s on 7 of them and 45,5MH/s on 1 (for now    )

[Gero3]

kids.....

im running 8 VEGA 64's on an ASUS B250 mining  expert mobo

with some driver trixing and Wattman magic, i am getting a very stable 43,7MH/s on 7 of them and 45,5MH/s on 1 (for now    )

Hi,
Can u share some details about over/under volting etc.
Which pool and mining software r u using?

Thanks

[foolioness]

Hi, noob here. Just started mining after finally got my hand on the XFX Vega 64.
I am currently only using a single Vega 64 (as they are hard to find at MSRP) plugged in directly to the mobo Pcie 3.0 16x.
I am currently getting a stable hashrate of 44.166 Mh/s at 59 degrees celcius. Total wall power (card only) @ 230W.
My wattman settings are GPU - state 7 min/max 900, Memory - state 7 at 1100 / voltage control at 1000,
CPU speed set to 1000 - 3500, temp setting between from 60 - 75, and power limit at -20%.
My questions are:
 1. Is this a stupid setup where I can damage the GPU way sooner before I get my ROI?
 2. Is it worth the investment to watercooled the GPU? will I get more hashrate out of it because of cooler operation?
 3. Will I be able to mix it with additional vega frontier edition?

THank you in advance

[KougarLOB]

Too many exclamation points.  Didn't read. 

[foolioness]

Too many exclamation points.  Didn't read. 

LOL.. I didn't put the exclamation point there. I am guilty of the question marks....