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August 19, 2014, 02:11:09 PM
 #7701

Stunna,will you pay me the posts from 7.17-8.17?

This is a topic for sig campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387




Lol i just sent 0.015 btc tip to one of my refs, now everybody wants to be my ref Cheesy Hahaha... LOL guys it doesn't work like that .
Joe made me 0.044 btc and i sent him only small part of that back Smiley

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August 19, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
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Is that possible that the chat doesn't send message on firefox? On Chrome it works great but on firefox, not only not updating for minutes, but not sending messages either.
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August 19, 2014, 02:20:54 PM
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Stunna,will you pay me the posts from 7.17-8.17?

This is a topic for sig campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387




Lol i just sent 0.015 btc tip to one of my refs, now everybody wants to be my ref Cheesy Hahaha... LOL guys it doesn't work like that .
Joe made me 0.044 btc and i sent him only small part of that back Smiley .  


If it makes you profit why wouldn't you send part of the profit back to all your new refs?

But if you say it won't work like that for you, then....

Guys, that is exactly how it works with me! Sing up under my ref and I will tip 30% of my profits back to you!

30% back link: https://primedice.com/?ref=Holdaaja

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August 19, 2014, 02:35:14 PM
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hi i got a problem i can sent a message what to do?? let me know.

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August 19, 2014, 02:36:18 PM
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hi i got a problem i can sent a message what to do?? let me know.

You are probably banned for spamming or begging etc.

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August 19, 2014, 02:37:48 PM
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hi i got a problem i can sent a message what to do?? let me know.

You are probably banned for spamming or begging etc.


no way i did not beg or spam there..

except there are some users who is saying tip me tip me i just ssay dont do that .. so i get banned ? lol

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August 19, 2014, 02:40:59 PM
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hi i got a problem i can sent a message what to do?? let me know.

You are probably banned for spamming or begging etc.


no way i did not beg or spam there..

except there are some users who is saying tip me tip me i just ssay dont do that .. so i get banned ? lol

I don't think saying "don't beg" gets you banned.
Unless you spam it like all the time?
Might been mistake too, Micro can probably tell us the reason for (possible) ban.

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Stunna,will you pay me the posts from 7.17-8.17?

This is a topic for sig campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387




Lol i just sent 0.015 btc tip to one of my refs, now everybody wants to be my ref Cheesy Hahaha... LOL guys it doesn't work like that .
Joe made me 0.044 btc and i sent him only small part of that back Smiley .  


If it makes you profit why wouldn't you send part of the profit back to all your new refs?

But if you say it won't work like that for you, then....

Guys, that is exactly how it works with me! Sing up under my ref and I will tip 30% of my profits back to you!

30% back link: https://primedice.com/?ref=Holdaaja

LOL , it doesn't work like that , i meant u can't just register under my ref and expect me to pay u Cheesy LOL .
Ofc as u see when my refs make me profit i send them like idk depending how much they need , i would give them up to 80% back depending on how much they earned me.

But i won't get much refs , i hate to post ref links Smiley . I have ref link in my sig only .

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Stunna,will you pay me the posts from 7.17-8.17?

This is a topic for sig campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387




Lol i just sent 0.015 btc tip to one of my refs, now everybody wants to be my ref Cheesy Hahaha... LOL guys it doesn't work like that .
Joe made me 0.044 btc and i sent him only small part of that back Smiley .  


If it makes you profit why wouldn't you send part of the profit back to all your new refs?

But if you say it won't work like that for you, then....

Guys, that is exactly how it works with me! Sing up under my ref and I will tip 30% of my profits back to you!

30% back link: https://primedice.com/?ref=Holdaaja

LOL , it doesn't work like that , i meant u can't just register under my ref and expect me to pay u Cheesy LOL .
Ofc as u see when my refs make me profit i send them like idk depending how much they need , i would give them up to 80% back depending on how much they earned me.

But i won't get much refs , i hate to post ref links Smiley . I have ref link in my sig only .

Actually you did post your ref link in this thread when PD3 came out Wink
And you might not have much refs but you have got a lot commission from them.

I haven't got nearly as lucky as you:


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August 19, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
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Stunna,will you pay me the posts from 7.17-8.17?

This is a topic for sig campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387




Lol i just sent 0.015 btc tip to one of my refs, now everybody wants to be my ref Cheesy Hahaha... LOL guys it doesn't work like that .
Joe made me 0.044 btc and i sent him only small part of that back Smiley


If it makes you profit why wouldn't you send part of the profit back to all your new refs?

But if you say it won't work like that for you, then....

Guys, that is exactly how it works with me! Sing up under my ref and I will tip 30% of my profits back to you!

30% back link: https://primedice.com/?ref=Holdaaja

LOL , it doesn't work like that , i meant u can't just register under my ref and expect me to pay u Cheesy LOL .
Ofc as u see when my refs make me profit i send them like idk depending how much they need , i would give them up to 80% back depending on how much they earned me.

But i won't get much refs , i hate to post ref links Smiley . I have ref link in my sig only .

Actually you did post your ref link in this thread when PD3 came out Wink
And you might not have much refs but you have got a lot commission from them.

I haven't got nearly as lucky as you:



Yeah i did once Smiley . But that mostly doesn't work. Smiley .

My commission is updated now to 20% so should be fun to see how it will go in the next few days Smiley .



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August 19, 2014, 02:57:14 PM
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My commission is updated now to 20% so should be fun to see how it will go in the next few days Smiley .

Is the 20% applied only to your new future ref earning, or is it applied retrospectively to all your ref earning?

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August 19, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
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My commission is updated now to 20% so should be fun to see how it will go in the next few days Smiley .

Is the 20% applied only to your new future ref earning, or is it applied retrospectively to all your ref earning?

Only to new earnings . I earned 0.34btc with 10% commission.

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August 19, 2014, 03:10:08 PM
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My commission is updated now to 20% so should be fun to see how it will go in the next few days Smiley .

Is the 20% applied only to your new future ref earning, or is it applied retrospectively to all your ref earning?

Only to new earnings . I earned 0.34btc with 10% commission.

Do you know is it possible to get it to 20% even if I don't use it in my signature currently?

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August 19, 2014, 03:13:45 PM
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My commission is updated now to 20% so should be fun to see how it will go in the next few days Smiley .

Is the 20% applied only to your new future ref earning, or is it applied retrospectively to all your ref earning?

Only to new earnings . I earned 0.34btc with 10% commission.

I see, so You have got some big whale ref lol (at 10%, that 12 persons need to bet 375btc to generate 0.34btc ref earning for you).  Grin

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August 19, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
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Are you some kind of a crazy person? Smiley
I'm glad you asked.

Random.org is a True Random Number Generator that I use under certain conditions as a Hi/Low decider to ensure that I don't have any cyclical betting patterns that may turn into a weakness under exposure to a large number of rolls.

I actually SHA-256 hash my seeds and truncate a part of it to fit into the PD3 client seed. Like I said in another thread: OCD about entropy.

Notice the Excel sheet, I keep record of the periodicity of 7+ streak failures to investigate my strategy with a series of value derivations versus the mathematical expectations. The mathematical expected odds of running into a 7+ streak failure given 49.5% odds is about 1 in 119, my strategy in practice after 20,000 rolls is about 1 in 220 currently.

I have a similar 20,000 roll record of PD2 that also reflected this trend (at 1 in 238, exactly 2x). One day when I have met my set BTC quota, I may just share the details my findings with the world...

So that's a "yes"?  Tongue

I recently turned 0.018 BTC into 1.444 BTC on prcdice using a stupid bunch of 49.5% and 45% martingales and a bunch of 90% all-ins. That's an increase of over 80 times. Then I turned it into 0 BTC using the same strategy.

I'm willing to share my findings with the world: It's just the way she goes; sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't go.

Lol i would say , definitely yes ! Cheesy .

I don't think that any of that has any effect.

Few days ago zsmo managed to turn 1 btc into 69 btc and then lose it all in 5 bets , he did not have strategy at all , just random betting on 2x and bunch of RLY lucky all ins Cheesy . Then couple of max bets , and bye bye.

He managed to wager 2200+ btc in just like 30 mins with only 1btc Cheesy .
I intuitively think my betting method shouldn't have any effect on the statistics whatsoever, but both of my datasets across two different betting environments says otherwise. In science, we have falsifiable tests to dispel crackpot theories, and I'm going to test my crackpot theory Smiley

Suppose that I flip a coin 100 times, and it turned up heads 60 times, you could say with good confidence that it is within acceptable standard deviation of the norm.

Suppose that I flip a coin 40,000 times and it turned up heads 24,000 times, that is so many standard deviations out there that additional questions about underlying fundamentals need to be asked.

You can guess where I'm going with this.

As the last word, it seems like some people with angry-little-man syndrome is attacking me for putting my honest idea idea out there without considering the content of my dataset... I should be used to it as putting new ideas out there is considered threatening to those who do not think critically... much like Galileo and the Church.
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August 19, 2014, 04:41:43 PM
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Looking to maybe add a form of "Rake back" to Primedice.

This would mean if you wager a certain amount the house edge would be lowered. Here's an example:

 - User A has a total wagered 50 BTC. He then receives 0.1% of all his bets back (Win or lose) - Making house edge 0.81
 - User B wagered of 200 BTC. He then receives 0.2% of all his bets back (Win or lose) - Making house edge 0.71
 - User C had a total wagered of 1,000 BTC. He then receives 0.3% of all his bets back (Win or lose) - Making house edge 0.61

Sound good?

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August 19, 2014, 04:42:21 PM
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Primedice is cheating

Today I was just using PD to bet and doing the double-or-nothing experiments.
It was going fine at first. But suddenly, I had 11 consecutive-losing bets.
They were pretty odd, weren't they?
So I did some verification using the script provided by Primedice.

See the screenshots below. I did verify all 11 bets. All 10 bets are correct, but the No.2 bet from top is wrong.
On the screenshot, the roll is 92.29. However, the result I got from script is 0.02.
So I should win that bet, there would not be the last one bet(top one) which cleared me out.

BET #805607190 INFO

SERVER SEED (REVEALED)
41fa224237f452360db8d35a276f4067fce6cad8d3dbf3c73bde2e804c8cb8c7
CLIENT SEED (NONCED)
ca45edd88ef251dd43edf42dc97c7ffb-3391


Screenshot of 11 consecutive-losing bets
http://prntscr.com/4ed9mo

Screenshot of BET #805607190 INFO
http://prntscr.com/4eda18

You can look up these bets by the bet id shown in the screenshot and verify them by yourself.
This did not just happen once but twice today and almost clear me out.
Since Primedice has been online for so long, I could not imagine how many times it has cheated.
I probably will do the same experiments on other bitcoin gambling web site. But Pirmedice is not trustworthy and return my bitcoin.

I also found the possible unfair when you PVP with "strangers" on Primedice.
See the post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=733500.msg8315850#msg8315850


The script I am using:

            //the seed pair itself
            var clientSeed = "ca45edd88ef251dd43edf42dc97c7ffb"; //dont forget to exclude the dash and the nonce!
            var serverSeed = "41fa224237f452360db8d35a276f4067fce6cad8d3dbf3c73bde2e804c8cb8c7";

            //bet made with seed pair (excluding current bet)
            var nonce      = 3391;

            //crypto lib for hmac function
            var crypto = require('crypto');

            var roll = function(key, text) {

                //create HMAC using server seed as key and client seed as message
                var hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', key).update(text).digest('hex');

                var index = 0;

                var lucky = parseInt(hash.substring(index * 5, index + 5), 16);

                //keep grabbing characters from the hash while greater than
                while (lucky >= Math.pow(10, 6)) {
                    index++;
                    lucky = parseInt(hash.substring(index * 5, index + 5), 16);

                    //if we reach the end of the hash, just default to highest number
                    if (index + 5 == 128 + 1) {
                        lucky = 99.99;
                        break;
                    }
                }

                lucky %= Math.pow(10, 4);
                lucky /= Math.pow(10, 2);

                return lucky;
            }
            console.log(roll(serverSeed, clientSeed+'-'+nonce));
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August 19, 2014, 05:31:23 PM
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Looking for a reply to the cheating post as well.

Also, on the affiliate dashboard it says I have 5 referred users but there are only 4 listed below that.  Explanation please?
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August 19, 2014, 05:35:32 PM
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Looking for a reply to the cheating post as well.

Also, on the affiliate dashboard it says I have 5 referred users but there are only 4 listed below that.  Explanation please?

Did you check the hashes etc and they were as he said?

Looking to maybe add a form of "Rake back" to Primedice.

This would mean if you wager a certain amount the house edge would be lowered. Here's an example:

 - User A has a total wagered 50 BTC. He then receives 0.1% of all his bets back (Win or lose) - Making house edge 0.81
 - User B wagered of 200 BTC. He then receives 0.2% of all his bets back (Win or lose) - Making house edge 0.71
 - User C had a total wagered of 1,000 BTC. He then receives 0.3% of all his bets back (Win or lose) - Making house edge 0.61

Sound good?

Rake back sounds awesome!

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