mailmansDOGE
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January 30, 2015, 10:50:21 AM |
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I can understand the changes to the faucet as they were being abused by bots and it was costing them bigtime but people must still be using pvp and that doesn't cost them (just maybe not in the volume they'd like). so it seems silly to abandon a good feature.
People are abusing that as well. They are claiming faucet, and then PVPing another account to rack up coins. It is very time consuming and you really can't get a lot of money you know. I am somewhat angry about the whole thing because I boosted my faucet quickly to get a bigger return from the faucet, lost .7 coins and was pretty much instantly nerved so I feel cheated, but coins are coins I guess. Wasn't people just tipping other users instead of transferring money through pvp? I can understand how you felt cheated by removing faucet levels but you also must understand how cheated stunna must feel. He seemed to be losing a lot of coins by people scamming the faucet with bots. People weren't tipping to transfer the faucet money, this is because you get too less from the faucet and tipping the faucet money is not possible. So they were doing pvp with that money because anyone can pvp amount larger than 1k satoshi.
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SOAD
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January 30, 2015, 11:24:35 AM |
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I can understand the changes to the faucet as they were being abused by bots and it was costing them bigtime but people must still be using pvp and that doesn't cost them (just maybe not in the volume they'd like). so it seems silly to abandon a good feature.
People are abusing that as well. They are claiming faucet, and then PVPing another account to rack up coins. It is very time consuming and you really can't get a lot of money you know. I am somewhat angry about the whole thing because I boosted my faucet quickly to get a bigger return from the faucet, lost .7 coins and was pretty much instantly nerved so I feel cheated, but coins are coins I guess. Wasn't people just tipping other users instead of transferring money through pvp? I can understand how you felt cheated by removing faucet levels but you also must understand how cheated stunna must feel. He seemed to be losing a lot of coins by people scamming the faucet with bots. People weren't tipping to transfer the faucet money, this is because you get too less from the faucet and tipping the faucet money is not possible. So they were doing pvp with that money because anyone can pvp amount larger than 1k satoshi. They wern't directly claiming the faucet and sending it straight away but gambling it at high odds then sending it once they'd won. From what I gather people were using multiple bots and if they're gambling all day they'll likely win several times and when they do they'll then tip the money and start again. It could be quite profitable if you have lots of accounts just gambling all day until they hit the jackpot. Doesn't cost them time or money to do so either.
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BitCrypto
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January 30, 2015, 11:26:39 AM |
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I can understand the changes to the faucet as they were being abused by bots and it was costing them bigtime but people must still be using pvp and that doesn't cost them (just maybe not in the volume they'd like). so it seems silly to abandon a good feature.
People are abusing that as well. They are claiming faucet, and then PVPing another account to rack up coins. It is very time consuming and you really can't get a lot of money you know. I am somewhat angry about the whole thing because I boosted my faucet quickly to get a bigger return from the faucet, lost .7 coins and was pretty much instantly nerved so I feel cheated, but coins are coins I guess. Wasn't people just tipping other users instead of transferring money through pvp? I can understand how you felt cheated by removing faucet levels but you also must understand how cheated stunna must feel. He seemed to be losing a lot of coins by people scamming the faucet with bots. People weren't tipping to transfer the faucet money, this is because you get too less from the faucet and tipping the faucet money is not possible. So they were doing pvp with that money because anyone can pvp amount larger than 1k satoshi. They wern't directly claiming the faucet and sending it straight away but gambling it at high odds then sending it once they'd won. From what I gather people were using multiple bots and if they're gambling all day they'll likely win several times and when they do they'll then tip the money and start again. It could be quite profitable if you have lots of accounts just gambling all day until they hit the jackpot. Doesn't cost them time or money to do so either. such a shameful way of earning bitcoins
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Lieji
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January 30, 2015, 11:40:28 AM |
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Just remove the PvP feature completely if very few real users use it. After all, Stunna earns nothing from those 0% edge PVP bets.
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ranochigo
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January 30, 2015, 12:10:56 PM |
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So now you are thinking about moving away from PVP? Seems rather weird the 2 biggest things I was excited about PD3 was the bigger faucet(which I boosted my faucet quickly and lost a lot of coins too do so) was removed, and PVP which was removed. Sort of sad:(
I remember many people getting excited about player vs player but the most important question is did people actually use it? Have you been using it yourself? I think many people request things and get excited for them but then never actually use them and then the initial hype dies down. I didn't do PVP didn't really enjoy it that much. I am just curious as those were 2 of the big features and it hasn't been a full year and they have removed their 2 biggest features which is sort of annoying. I can understand the changes to the faucet as they were being abused by bots and it was costing them bigtime but people must still be using pvp and that doesn't cost them (just maybe not in the volume they'd like). so it seems silly to abandon a good feature. People are abusing that as well. They are claiming faucet, and then PVPing another account to rack up coins. It is very time consuming and you really can't get a lot of money you know. I am somewhat angry about the whole thing because I boosted my faucet quickly to get a bigger return from the faucet, lost .7 coins and was pretty much instantly nerved so I feel cheated, but coins are coins I guess. Why not implement a 50k satoshi minimum PvP bet size just like the one in the tip feature? 50k is maybe too much. But 10 or 20k could be good and avoid abuse.. People can just deposit 10k into account A and claim the faucet at account B, transfer the 10k from account A to B and then transfer back to A. Voila, profit.. However, you would probably get reported and banned. The best option is to prevent the user to use PVP unless they deposited the money that is equal to the PVP bet's amount. Stunna can just implement play money for people to test out PVP. That would be like sheer waste of time. How much would you gain from faucets even if we do this? Its going to take years to earn something substantive in this way. It's a waste of time but people are purchasing high leveled accounts to do this. It isn't really worth the effort purchasing human captcha solving or solving it themselves as it would be detected soon enough.
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elephantas1
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January 30, 2015, 01:56:17 PM |
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It's a waste of time but people are purchasing high leveled accounts to do this. It isn't really worth the effort purchasing human captcha solving or solving it themselves as it would be detected soon enough. would it be also suspicious if they use different ips to transfer satoshis between the accounts? i mean admin would not know that they are the same people
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mailmansDOGE
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January 30, 2015, 02:05:24 PM |
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It's a waste of time but people are purchasing high leveled accounts to do this. It isn't really worth the effort purchasing human captcha solving or solving it themselves as it would be detected soon enough. would it be also suspicious if they use different ips to transfer satoshis between the accounts? i mean admin would not know that they are the same people It doesn't matter if they are using different ips. The admin will always come to know of such activity by analysing the account's behaviour.
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VulgusMan
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January 30, 2015, 02:16:34 PM |
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automatic bet section is broken, it is one bet off of win or lose i refreshed the page and all, but it wasn't fixed if it is possible.. on automatic bet.. introduce this to options: on loss : decrease bet by X% on win : decrease bet by X% thanks!!!
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January 30, 2015, 02:48:12 PM |
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People can just deposit 10k into account A and claim the faucet at account B, transfer the 10k from account A to B and then transfer back to A. Voila, profit.. However, you would probably get reported and banned. The best option is to prevent the user to use PVP unless they deposited the money that is equal to the PVP bet's amount. Stunna can just implement play money for people to test out PVP.
That would be like sheer waste of time. How much would you gain from faucets even if we do this? Its going to take years to earn something substantive in this way. [/quote] It's not a waste of time when bots do it automatically for you. The scammers just sit back and watch the money come trickling in. I can't remember the exact figure but stunna mentioned he was paying out quite a lot of bitcoins from the faucet alone and many were just bot scammers.
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mailmansDOGE
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January 30, 2015, 04:39:15 PM |
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People can just deposit 10k into account A and claim the faucet at account B, transfer the 10k from account A to B and then transfer back to A. Voila, profit.. However, you would probably get reported and banned. The best option is to prevent the user to use PVP unless they deposited the money that is equal to the PVP bet's amount. Stunna can just implement play money for people to test out PVP.
That would be like sheer waste of time. How much would you gain from faucets even if we do this? Its going to take years to earn something substantive in this way. It's not a waste of time when bots do it automatically for you. The scammers just sit back and watch the money come trickling in. I can't remember the exact figure but stunna mentioned he was paying out quite a lot of bitcoins from the faucet alone and many were just bot scammers. Can the bots solve the captcha? I guess that captcha are made so that people don't use bots to missuse a service and so how can people missuse the faucet through bots?
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VulgusMan
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January 30, 2015, 06:26:29 PM |
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automatic bet section is broken, it is one bet off of win or lose i refreshed the page and all, but it wasn't fixed if it is possible.. on automatic bet.. introduce this to options: on loss : decrease bet by X% on win : decrease bet by X% thanks!!! but, this is the correct thread for this request?? if it is possible i ask to add a function like "sto when reach balance =" hwen you play automatic betting!!! thanks
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mailmansDOGE
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January 30, 2015, 06:30:01 PM |
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automatic bet section is broken, it is one bet off of win or lose i refreshed the page and all, but it wasn't fixed That was a little whacky. They are doing their best to resolve this and most probably till now they would have corrected it.
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Stunna (OP)
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January 30, 2015, 08:32:02 PM |
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The much requested tip log was added to profile. You can now track all sent and received tips from your account. Also the above issue with the bot was quickly fixed and won't occur anymore (thanks to everyone who notified me). Also we will likely be putting in a higher minimum PVP to prevent abuse from people transferring lower faucet balances.
Right now we've been working on tweaking around chat, we're looking at expanding the width of the sidebar at larger resolutions and removing a lot of the padding on chat along with placing messages and usernames on the same line. This should make the chat much more usable during times of high capacity.
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Candystripes
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January 30, 2015, 09:44:26 PM |
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Signature campaign launching very soon!
Launching soon means months. We've all learned from over two years of long delayed promises from you Stunna that "soon" actually isn't soon. Take for example the launch of PD2 and the launch of PD3. Promised "next week guys" for months on end for them... Don't hold your breath people. Soon means years. Most probably ~Summer 2016 is when it will be launched. Stunna's word can never be taken serious, especially when it's time.
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adaseb
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January 30, 2015, 10:32:49 PM |
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The much requested tip log was added to profile. You can now track all sent and received tips from your account. Also the above issue with the bot was quickly fixed and won't occur anymore (thanks to everyone who notified me). Also we will likely be putting in a higher minimum PVP to prevent abuse from people transferring lower faucet balances.
Right now we've been working on tweaking around chat, we're looking at expanding the width of the sidebar at larger resolutions and removing a lot of the padding on chat along with placing messages and usernames on the same line. This should make the chat much more usable during times of high capacity.
Yes its about time that you put a higher minimum limit because all I see is people abusing the faucet. For example Gambler tipped 0.00050000 BTC to GamblerFaucet Getting ridiculous
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MICRO
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January 31, 2015, 12:56:33 AM |
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The much requested tip log was added to profile. You can now track all sent and received tips from your account. Also the above issue with the bot was quickly fixed and won't occur anymore (thanks to everyone who notified me). Also we will likely be putting in a higher minimum PVP to prevent abuse from people transferring lower faucet balances.
Right now we've been working on tweaking around chat, we're looking at expanding the width of the sidebar at larger resolutions and removing a lot of the padding on chat along with placing messages and usernames on the same line. This should make the chat much more usable during times of high capacity.
Yes its about time that you put a higher minimum limit because all I see is people abusing the faucet. For example Gambler tipped 0.00050000 BTC to GamblerFaucet Getting ridiculous I can also just be people banking their money on a second account. I don't use faucet but I often bank 50k on my second account. Yeah and that is ok but problem are people who claim faucet than tip that acc with 50k than tip that 50k+faucet back and claim again and so on... That needs to be sorted out asap. There would be much more giveaways and promotions if people don't abuse everything so much.
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ranochigo
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January 31, 2015, 01:30:31 AM |
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People can just deposit 10k into account A and claim the faucet at account B, transfer the 10k from account A to B and then transfer back to A. Voila, profit.. However, you would probably get reported and banned. The best option is to prevent the user to use PVP unless they deposited the money that is equal to the PVP bet's amount. Stunna can just implement play money for people to test out PVP.
That would be like sheer waste of time. How much would you gain from faucets even if we do this? Its going to take years to earn something substantive in this way. It's not a waste of time when bots do it automatically for you. The scammers just sit back and watch the money come trickling in. I can't remember the exact figure but stunna mentioned he was paying out quite a lot of bitcoins from the faucet alone and many were just bot scammers. Can the bots solve the captcha? I guess that captcha are made so that people don't use bots to missuse a service and so how can people missuse the faucet through bots? They can't. I don't think much OCRs on the web are able to solve solvemedia's captcha with reasonable accuracy rate. If solvemedia suspects you are a bot, they would give you an even more complicated captcha, clicking on the screen/difficult captcha.
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robmob
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January 31, 2015, 04:29:47 AM |
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People can just deposit 10k into account A and claim the faucet at account B, transfer the 10k from account A to B and then transfer back to A. Voila, profit.. However, you would probably get reported and banned. The best option is to prevent the user to use PVP unless they deposited the money that is equal to the PVP bet's amount. Stunna can just implement play money for people to test out PVP.
That would be like sheer waste of time. How much would you gain from faucets even if we do this? Its going to take years to earn something substantive in this way. It's not a waste of time when bots do it automatically for you. The scammers just sit back and watch the money come trickling in. I can't remember the exact figure but stunna mentioned he was paying out quite a lot of bitcoins from the faucet alone and many were just bot scammers. Can the bots solve the captcha? I guess that captcha are made so that people don't use bots to missuse a service and so how can people missuse the faucet through bots? They can't. I don't think much OCRs on the web are able to solve solvemedia's captcha with reasonable accuracy rate. If solvemedia suspects you are a bot, they would give you an even more complicated captcha, clicking on the screen/difficult captcha. Hey MICRO got a chat to chat with ya for a bit tonight, Big fan of Primedice been playing it now for a few months. Keep up the good work Stunna and team.
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thebitcoinquiz.com
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January 31, 2015, 07:50:52 AM |
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People can just deposit 10k into account A and claim the faucet at account B, transfer the 10k from account A to B and then transfer back to A. Voila, profit.. However, you would probably get reported and banned. The best option is to prevent the user to use PVP unless they deposited the money that is equal to the PVP bet's amount. Stunna can just implement play money for people to test out PVP.
That would be like sheer waste of time. How much would you gain from faucets even if we do this? Its going to take years to earn something substantive in this way. It's not a waste of time when bots do it automatically for you. The scammers just sit back and watch the money come trickling in. I can't remember the exact figure but stunna mentioned he was paying out quite a lot of bitcoins from the faucet alone and many were just bot scammers. Can the bots solve the captcha? I guess that captcha are made so that people don't use bots to missuse a service and so how can people missuse the faucet through bots? They can't. I don't think much OCRs on the web are able to solve solvemedia's captcha with reasonable accuracy rate. If solvemedia suspects you are a bot, they would give you an even more complicated captcha, clicking on the screen/difficult captcha. I also don't think that such bots are able to read all the difficult captcha. Although I feel solve media is too easy to solve but still bot's accuracy rate wont be good enough to solve captcha.
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hui
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January 31, 2015, 08:05:38 AM |
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The much requested tip log was added to profile. You can now track all sent and received tips from your account. Also the above issue with the bot was quickly fixed and won't occur anymore (thanks to everyone who notified me). Also we will likely be putting in a higher minimum PVP to prevent abuse from people transferring lower faucet balances.
Right now we've been working on tweaking around chat, we're looking at expanding the width of the sidebar at larger resolutions and removing a lot of the padding on chat along with placing messages and usernames on the same line. This should make the chat much more usable during times of high capacity.
thanks for your work! it would be nice to have a public api for the tiplog, too.
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