kleineaap
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March 13, 2017, 11:10:02 AM |
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Due to huge fees that bitcoin needs at this moment we had to raise minimum withdrawal amount to 0.004 btc and fee to 0.0003 btc.
We were covering majority of the fee needed and it cost us substantial amount of money every day.
Minimum withdrawal is 0.004 btc and fee is 0.0003 btc.
What a load of crap. ? Are you serious? That's a very generous condition. You do realize that since most medium transactions are around 300 Bytes and the average fee these days is 200 Sats/byte then the withdraw fee of 0.0003BTC is mostly made at a loss to PrimeDice, especially if they have more than 1 input. 0.004 BTC is also fair. You shouldn't be withdrawing less than 0.004 BTC anyways, because most of your withdraw goes to fees alone. Blame Segwit not being activated. Not Primedice. Dead serious. It's bullshit. Most current wallets let you specify the fee. Besides a gambling dice site, Primedice is also a wallet for every user that deposits/withdraws. And now, after being behind in many aspects (having one of the slowest betting engines, an outdated look, a shit chat and useless support service), PD is again fixing their shit regardless of users and user experience. Certainly easier to fucking raise the fees than to pay a dev for some custom code. It's seems there's an adoration of PD in this thread. What the fuck do I care. Just being critical when it's deserved so. And right now, this is the largest load of crap they could implement.
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moooonu
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March 13, 2017, 11:45:20 AM |
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Did a couple of withdrawal from PD. I got to admit confirmation on withdrawals are instant and fast. Great improvement in site. Keep it up stunna
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MICRO
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March 13, 2017, 11:49:22 AM |
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Due to huge fees that bitcoin needs at this moment we had to raise minimum withdrawal amount to 0.004 btc and fee to 0.0003 btc.
We were covering majority of the fee needed and it cost us substantial amount of money every day.
Minimum withdrawal is 0.004 btc and fee is 0.0003 btc.
What a load of crap. ? Are you serious? That's a very generous condition. You do realize that since most medium transactions are around 300 Bytes and the average fee these days is 200 Sats/byte then the withdraw fee of 0.0003BTC is mostly made at a loss to PrimeDice, especially if they have more than 1 input. 0.004 BTC is also fair. You shouldn't be withdrawing less than 0.004 BTC anyways, because most of your withdraw goes to fees alone. Blame Segwit not being activated. Not Primedice. Dead serious. It's bullshit. Most current wallets let you specify the fee. Besides a gambling dice site, Primedice is also a wallet for every user that deposits/withdraws. And now, after being behind in many aspects (having one of the slowest betting engines, an outdated look, a shit chat and useless support service), PD is again fixing their shit regardless of users and user experience. Certainly easier to fucking raise the fees than to pay a dev for some custom code. It's seems there's an adoration of PD in this thread. What the fuck do I care. Just being critical when it's deserved so. And right now, this is the largest load of crap they could implement. If we let users chose a fee they would mostly chose to small fee. Or you would have to chose bigger fee and pay for it in full. This way we are still covering for the fee most of the time and it ends up costing us close to 700$ per day just on fees. It is the best possible outcome for the users not for us. But it is the most convenient for the users and we chose to do it that way.
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kleineaap
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March 13, 2017, 01:08:29 PM |
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If we let users chose a fee they would mostly chose to small fee.
Yes, and they would have the slowest withdrawal. People wanting to pay for speedy btc would be ok, same as people that would be willing to wait. This way we are still covering for the fee most of the time and it ends up costing us close to 700$ per day just on fees.
Am I supposed to be sorry for the fees you are paying now? But it is the most convenient for the users and we chose to do it that way.
No, it is not. The same way I choose to send a transaction with low fee when I do not care when it arrives so do PD users would have that option. That is the MOST CONVENIENT for users. Your lullaby though is more convenient for PD and PD only.
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freemanjackal
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March 13, 2017, 05:43:22 PM |
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If we let users chose a fee they would mostly chose to small fee.
Yes, and they would have the slowest withdrawal. People wanting to pay for speedy btc would be ok, same as people that would be willing to wait. This way we are still covering for the fee most of the time and it ends up costing us close to 700$ per day just on fees.
Am I supposed to be sorry for the fees you are paying now? But it is the most convenient for the users and we chose to do it that way.
No, it is not. The same way I choose to send a transaction with low fee when I do not care when it arrives so do PD users would have that option. That is the MOST CONVENIENT for users. Your lullaby though is more convenient for PD and PD only. completely agree should be the users who decide if they i want an instant withdrawal or not, almost every wallet allows the user to specify the tx fee, so why not PD??
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AF50
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March 13, 2017, 08:54:15 PM |
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let the users choose how much are willing to pay for the fee
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Stunna (OP)
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March 14, 2017, 12:22:55 AM |
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If we let users chose a fee they would mostly chose to small fee.
Yes, and they would have the slowest withdrawal. People wanting to pay for speedy btc would be ok, same as people that would be willing to wait. This way we are still covering for the fee most of the time and it ends up costing us close to 700$ per day just on fees.
Am I supposed to be sorry for the fees you are paying now? But it is the most convenient for the users and we chose to do it that way.
No, it is not. The same way I choose to send a transaction with low fee when I do not care when it arrives so do PD users would have that option. That is the MOST CONVENIENT for users. Your lullaby though is more convenient for PD and PD only. We're subsidizing the majority of your fee in most cases. We generally attach a lower fee than average, if we let users set an even lower fee their transactions wouldn't confirm. However, will be taking your feedback to mind and seeing what's do-able.
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kleineaap
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March 14, 2017, 12:39:13 AM |
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We're subsidizing the majority of your fee in most cases. We generally attach a lower fee than average, if we let users set an even lower fee their transactions wouldn't confirm. However, will be taking your feedback to mind and seeing what's do-able.
Thanks for the reply. Would be good to see users opinions taken into account.
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Stunna (OP)
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March 14, 2017, 01:54:00 AM |
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We're subsidizing the majority of your fee in most cases. We generally attach a lower fee than average, if we let users set an even lower fee their transactions wouldn't confirm. However, will be taking your feedback to mind and seeing what's do-able.
Thanks for the reply. Would be good to see users opinions taken into account. Feel free to drop me a PM at anytime
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freemanjackal
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March 14, 2017, 03:29:17 AM |
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listen to your users , they should be your reasons to be, they are your main income source
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March 14, 2017, 01:06:54 PM |
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listen to your users , they should be your reasons to be, they are your main income source
Yes this is true, if one site does not have player to play on their site, this is pointless thing but here with raise the fee a little bit does not really affect into your winning though and this is of course will give people not to farm from faucet too. This is really good thing to do too since last time blockchain problem
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JanpriX
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March 14, 2017, 01:17:22 PM |
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We're subsidizing the majority of your fee in most cases. We generally attach a lower fee than average, if we let users set an even lower fee their transactions wouldn't confirm. However, will be taking your feedback to mind and seeing what's do-able.
Thanks for the reply. Would be good to see users opinions taken into account. Feel free to drop me a PM at anytime It is so reassuring when the owner of a gambling site is still interacting with the community after so many years. Keep up the good work Stunna. And I truly understand your point here regarding the change in withdrawal fees. It's getting higher and higher everyday and the only thing that we can do about it is to adjust accordingly. If you don't want your transaction get stuck in the network, allot some more with your fees.
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March 14, 2017, 01:45:15 PM |
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i logged in this morning and i found my account perm mute ! why that happened to me ? i didnt abuse faucet or you just want us to depo and lose more and more ? i could make nothing from faucet for like 2 months from now . and i get perm mute for what ? hope you unmute me as soon as possible. shary
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March 14, 2017, 01:56:59 PM |
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i logged in this morning and i found my account perm mute ! why that happened to me ? i didnt abuse faucet or you just want us to depo and lose more and more ? i could make nothing from faucet for like 2 months from now . and i get perm mute for what ? hope you unmute me as soon as possible. shary
Muted from chat? If you are banned/muted from chat, it has nothing to do with faucet IMO. There must be a valid reason why you get muted. Did you say something bad on chat? Anyway, can you still claim the faucet to play?
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Shary
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March 14, 2017, 02:36:04 PM |
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i logged in this morning and i found my account perm mute ! why that happened to me ? i didnt abuse faucet or you just want us to depo and lose more and more ? i could make nothing from faucet for like 2 months from now . and i get perm mute for what ? hope you unmute me as soon as possible. shary
Muted from chat? If you are banned/muted from chat, it has nothing to do with faucet IMO. There must be a valid reason why you get muted. Did you say something bad on chat? Anyway, can you still claim the faucet to play? no i did write nothing bad in chat. everyone knows me there. there must be an error. i didnt abuse faucet and i was chatting normally and suddenly perm mute
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Mbokani
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March 14, 2017, 02:58:55 PM |
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no i did write nothing bad in chat. everyone knows me there. there must be an error. i didnt abuse faucet and i was chatting normally and suddenly perm mute
Micro could give you the answer for your mute or create a temporary account and ask the mod why you are muted.From my experience they do not ban without any valid reason and if at all if you are banned because of an auto settings then an mod could unban you ,Caps and other languages could lead to a ban.
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March 14, 2017, 03:09:24 PM |
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no i did write nothing bad in chat. everyone knows me there. there must be an error. i didnt abuse faucet and i was chatting normally and suddenly perm mute
Micro could give you the answer for your mute or create a temporary account and ask the mod why you are muted.From my experience they do not ban without any valid reason and if at all if you are banned because of an auto settings then an mod could unban you ,Caps and other languages could lead to a ban. That's very common problem to get permanent muted through and in that case you should send support ticket about this issue. If there is nothing with your account than it will be set to normal after the review I also think that happened due to auto ban.
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March 14, 2017, 06:43:07 PM |
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no i did write nothing bad in chat. everyone knows me there. there must be an error. i didnt abuse faucet and i was chatting normally and suddenly perm mute
Micro could give you the answer for your mute or create a temporary account and ask the mod why you are muted.From my experience they do not ban without any valid reason and if at all if you are banned because of an auto settings then an mod could unban you ,Caps and other languages could lead to a ban. That's very common problem to get permanent muted through and in that case you should send support ticket about this issue. If there is nothing with your account than it will be set to normal after the review I also think that happened due to auto ban. Something's fishy
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March 16, 2017, 01:16:21 AM |
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no i did write nothing bad in chat. everyone knows me there. there must be an error. i didnt abuse faucet and i was chatting normally and suddenly perm mute
Micro could give you the answer for your mute or create a temporary account and ask the mod why you are muted.From my experience they do not ban without any valid reason and if at all if you are banned because of an auto settings then an mod could unban you ,Caps and other languages could lead to a ban. That's very common problem to get permanent muted through and in that case you should send support ticket about this issue. If there is nothing with your account than it will be set to normal after the review I also think that happened due to auto ban. Could be alot of reasons? There is so much trolling going on in that chat from time to time that the mods might of accidentally muted your nick by accident. I used to frequent the chat alot but now I mostly leave it closed because there is too much drama on there all the time.
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March 16, 2017, 02:48:52 AM |
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no i did write nothing bad in chat. everyone knows me there. there must be an error. i didnt abuse faucet and i was chatting normally and suddenly perm mute
Micro could give you the answer for your mute or create a temporary account and ask the mod why you are muted.From my experience they do not ban without any valid reason and if at all if you are banned because of an auto settings then an mod could unban you ,Caps and other languages could lead to a ban. That's very common problem to get permanent muted through and in that case you should send support ticket about this issue. If there is nothing with your account than it will be set to normal after the review I also think that happened due to auto ban. Could be alot of reasons? There is so much trolling going on in that chat from time to time that the mods might of accidentally muted your nick by accident. I used to frequent the chat alot but now I mostly leave it closed because there is too much drama on there all the time. Im also always in the chat but didnt experience such thing. And never heard of accidentally getting perma muted. Maybe theres a reason there and not just accidentally imo.
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