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May 03, 2017, 08:05:05 AM
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Can you unmute my account? I tried using the faucet it says my primedice vip account was muted. But I can still chat the only problem is I cannot use my faucet. Is the mute permanent?
The account will be muted if you have not deposited in prime dice for the past three months and you are using faucet and it is done simply because to counter faucet abusers ,with the price of bitcoin rising they cannot simply let people to take advantage of the system.I think the mute will be lifted once you deposit some coins in your account.

Can some Primedice mod confirm this? I am surprised they are finally taking a stand against the faucet abusers.

However, can't someone just deposit some BTC, and then just withdraw that BTC. And only lose their miner fees for the transaction?

If you want to get rid of facuet abusers you should have a min BTC rollover amount. Make it high like 5-10 BTC.


You mean one has to wager 5-10 BTC to start claiming/enable faucet? isn't faucet for testing the site, if there will be limits like that then what's the use of faucet. i think faucet should be removed completely and be replaced with some kinda fake credits.

Yes I agree. They should have fake credits or play money and 99% of all the faucet abusers would go away. Dice is the easy game out there. It doesn't really need a faucet for someone to test out the site.

The 5-10 BTC wager would be more of a incentive and bonus for those who are loyal to the site and have huge rollovers.


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May 03, 2017, 08:51:49 AM
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stuna my a/c banned plz unmute it i m boring u:hawk1987


i did not break any rules:(
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May 03, 2017, 09:11:31 AM
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stuna my a/c banned plz unmute it i m boring u:hawk1987


i did not break any rules:(

Says the guy promoting ponzi xD
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May 03, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
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But it is not so easy to go from 150 sats to 50k sats which you can tip. For that you have to win the max bet of 150 sats with 350x multiplier and  the odds of that happening are very low, less than 0.3%. One should have dozens of alts to abuse the faucet that way and I think that's easily traceable.
For me it is not that easy to start from faucet ,which is above 2k sats to reach 50k most of the time but some times i do reach it pretty easily ,so it is not an impossible task as you say so and even with 150 sats it might be possible as i have never tried it .Looking at the price of bitcoin they have to come up with a solution to block these abuses to extend their profit.


it is almost impossible to get anything solid from 150 satoshi faucet,you might get an odd 100-200k here and there
but the time you waste is not worth it,but there are pro faucet farmers there who create hundreds of accounts and try to all in on 9900x or any other high multiplier
again I don't see how is it worth the effort ,at the end of the day you will deposit and play normally and have much better chances to profit

Pro faucet farmers....really. have they ever been caught? I am not sure of faucet worth trying hard to hit 50k. Even if some hits that 350x one time each day. He will only make 0.015 btc per months which I think is not big and there are many chances that he won't make it even half of it. And none have that much patience to wait for it whole day. It's nothing in front of what primedice gives in it's giveaways.

Exactly. I think setting a limit like no more than 12 registered accounts from one IP address would be enough to not worry about abusers ever more. Or am I missing something?

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Pro faucet farmers....really. have they ever been caught? I am not sure of faucet worth trying hard to hit 50k. Even if some hits that 350x one time each day. He will only make 0.015 btc per months which I think is not big and there are many chances that he won't make it even half of it. And none have that much patience to wait for it whole day. It's nothing in front of what primedice gives in it's giveaways.

Exactly. I think setting a limit like no more than 12 registered accounts from one IP address would be enough to not worry about abusers ever more. Or am I missing something?

Yup.
Both of you are missing that robots can farm the faucet automatically while changing the IP every once in a while to continue farming.
The only real way to protect themselves is to lower the amount given by the faucet so that it's no longer interesting for robots to do it.
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May 03, 2017, 10:13:31 AM
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Exactly. I think setting a limit like no more than 12 registered accounts from one IP address would be enough to not worry about abusers ever more. Or am I missing something?
IP limitation was never a good option to prevent abuse of any sort. Using VPN or any kind of proxy will defectively render this security feature useless.
If the faucet farming is really that harmful to the site then the best way to prevent faucet abuse is to limit faucet somehow.
For example: Faucet should only generate really low amount of satoshis, and grow over time with more wagered BTC.

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May 03, 2017, 01:26:38 PM
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Pro faucet farmers....really. have they ever been caught? I am not sure of faucet worth trying hard to hit 50k. Even if some hits that 350x one time each day. He will only make 0.015 btc per months which I think is not big and there are many chances that he won't make it even half of it. And none have that much patience to wait for it whole day. It's nothing in front of what primedice gives in it's giveaways.

Exactly. I think setting a limit like no more than 12 registered accounts from one IP address would be enough to not worry about abusers ever more. Or am I missing something?

Yup.
Both of you are missing that robots can farm the faucet automatically while changing the IP every once in a while to continue farming.
The only real way to protect themselves is to lower the amount given by the faucet so that it's no longer interesting for robots to do it.

If they are using robots then amount don't matter. If they are doing it then it don't matter how much is the amount. Anything would be useless against them. However i can see there are few accounts banned who haven't deposited since 3 months and using faucets or faucet farming since a long time.
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May 03, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
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Can you unmute my account? I tried using the faucet it says my primedice vip account was muted. But I can still chat the only problem is I cannot use my faucet. Is the mute permanent?
The account will be muted if you have not deposited in prime dice for the past three months and you are using faucet and it is done simply because to counter faucet abusers ,with the price of bitcoin rising they cannot simply let people to take advantage of the system.I think the mute will be lifted once you deposit some coins in your account.

Can some Primedice mod confirm this? I am surprised they are finally taking a stand against the faucet abusers.

However, can't someone just deposit some BTC, and then just withdraw that BTC. And only lose their miner fees for the transaction?

If you want to get rid of facuet abusers you should have a min BTC rollover amount. Make it high like 5-10 BTC.



What is the point to make deposit and then withdraw it without getting any profit at all? Or did you even try to play it here? Since you already make some deposit at least you should wagered some amount and try your luck. But it is pointless thing to do when you make deposit and then withdraw it again, it is better if you don't make deposit at all so you won't lose the transaction fee

Btw you mean that before someone can claim the faucet again, they need to do the rollover again and again?

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May 03, 2017, 02:08:51 PM
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If you want to get rid of facuet abusers you should have a min BTC rollover amount. Make it high like 5-10 BTC.
You will only get higher faucet (2k sats) once you have wagered 10 BTC. Your faucet still same even though you have wagered 5 BTC

i did not break any rules:(
Maybe this is an answer for you
However i can see there are few accounts banned who haven't deposited since 3 months and using faucets or faucet farming since a long time.


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May 03, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
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Exactly. I think setting a limit like no more than 12 registered accounts from one IP address would be enough to not worry about abusers ever more. Or am I missing something?
IP limitation was never a good option to prevent abuse of any sort. Using VPN or any kind of proxy will defectively render this security feature useless.
If the faucet farming is really that harmful to the site then the best way to prevent faucet abuse is to limit faucet somehow.
For example: Faucet should only generate really low amount of satoshis, and grow over time with more wagered BTC.


This is a good idea and something like this is implemented on Primedice, but unfortunately your faucet starts growing only after 10 BTC is wagered. I think it would be nice if we had at least a small addition to our faucet after say every 0.1 wagered. I mean even 1-2 satoshis plus to your initial faucet would make you feel that you are making some kind of progress.
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May 04, 2017, 07:25:53 AM
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Pretty sure the IP limitation would set off a few players but the pro-faucet-abusers they probably got their own system and they use CAPTCHA solver services and most likely do the betting using the API using VPS or Amazon AWS.

So there could be hundreds of different IP addresses. Only way to catch them would be to watch their method and put a stop to it.

Pretty sure the faucet will either be like 10 Sats with a 5 minute Captcha timer or it will be removed completely for new accounts.

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May 04, 2017, 10:02:37 AM
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Pretty sure the IP limitation would set off a few players but the pro-faucet-abusers they probably got their own system and they use CAPTCHA solver services and most likely do the betting using the API using VPS or Amazon AWS.
So there could be hundreds of different IP addresses. Only way to catch them would be to watch their method and put a stop to it.
Pretty sure the faucet will either be like 10 Sats with a 5 minute Captcha timer or it will be removed completely for new accounts.
They could limit the amount of claims per IP ,whether the traffic is coming from a proxy or not and i think they are doing that even now as there is a fixed amount of claims per IP per week,it is not that easy to monitor every player from Prime dice as the amount of rolls per day is really huge and then the most important thing being a gambling site is that they should respect ones privacy .

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May 04, 2017, 03:56:00 PM
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Pretty sure the IP limitation would set off a few players but the pro-faucet-abusers they probably got their own system and they use CAPTCHA solver services and most likely do the betting using the API using VPS or Amazon AWS.
So there could be hundreds of different IP addresses. Only way to catch them would be to watch their method and put a stop to it.
Pretty sure the faucet will either be like 10 Sats with a 5 minute Captcha timer or it will be removed completely for new accounts.
They could limit the amount of claims per IP ,whether the traffic is coming from a proxy or not and i think they are doing that even now as there is a fixed amount of claims per IP per week,it is not that easy to monitor every player from Prime dice as the amount of rolls per day is really huge and then the most important thing being a gambling site is that they should respect ones privacy .

It should be fixed right away or in a short period of time, as I am hearing so many complaints and issues about faucet farmings. As the number of players are a bit increasing its true that it is really hard to monitor each of players in the community. There should be a way to fixed it immediately, I don't know what to suggest also but i know the time will come to make it possible.

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May 04, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
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Exactly. I think setting a limit like no more than 12 registered accounts from one IP address would be enough to not worry about abusers ever more. Or am I missing something?
IP limitation was never a good option to prevent abuse of any sort. Using VPN or any kind of proxy will defectively render this security feature useless.
If the faucet farming is really that harmful to the site then the best way to prevent faucet abuse is to limit faucet somehow.
For example: Faucet should only generate really low amount of satoshis, and grow over time with more wagered BTC.


This is a good idea and something like this is implemented on Primedice, but unfortunately your faucet starts growing only after 10 BTC is wagered. I think it would be nice if we had at least a small addition to our faucet after say every 0.1 wagered. I mean even 1-2 satoshis plus to your initial faucet would make you feel that you are making some kind of progress.
Yeah but... I mean that's really not a priority for PD and I understand it...

Why bother giving things to very small players? They won't bring much money anyway :/
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May 04, 2017, 04:44:16 PM
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Pretty sure the IP limitation would set off a few players but the pro-faucet-abusers they probably got their own system and they use CAPTCHA solver services and most likely do the betting using the API using VPS or Amazon AWS.
So there could be hundreds of different IP addresses. Only way to catch them would be to watch their method and put a stop to it.
Pretty sure the faucet will either be like 10 Sats with a 5 minute Captcha timer or it will be removed completely for new accounts.
They could limit the amount of claims per IP ,whether the traffic is coming from a proxy or not and i think they are doing that even now as there is a fixed amount of claims per IP per week,it is not that easy to monitor every player from Prime dice as the amount of rolls per day is really huge and then the most important thing being a gambling site is that they should respect ones privacy .

It doesn't matter how they limit the claims per IP because most faucet farmers most likely have access to a large database of IPs that range from different counties. Plus thats also too work manual labour. Most likely the faucet will either be reduced further or will be completely removed for new players.

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May 04, 2017, 06:10:08 PM
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Why bother giving things to very small players? They won't bring much money anyway :/

It is not about profit all the time. Actually by giving freebies or even let them keep on using faucet, the site will be looking more crowded then the other site. Thus this will attract more players to come and stay, imagine how will it looks like when you are the only one play in the site . That is just so boring even when you are not chatting at all
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May 04, 2017, 06:38:44 PM
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Why bother giving things to very small players? They won't bring much money anyway :/

It is not about profit all the time. Actually by giving freebies or even let them keep on using faucet, the site will be looking more crowded then the other site. Thus this will attract more players to come and stay, imagine how will it looks like when you are the only one play in the site . That is just so boring even when you are not chatting at all

What the hell, Primedice is a proven scam. I have this:

You have been muted by an admin and have 3599999003443 seconds left

Look at my stats (on the old primedice I have over 400btc wagered, which they also scammed be for imo there is a thread somewhere)

TOTAL WAGERED
27.31213108BTC
TOTAL PROFIT
-0.77021035BTC
TOTAL BETS
1,995,387
TOTAL WINS
903,004
TOTAL LOSSES
1,092,383
LUCK
100.00%
CHAT MESSAGES
5,353
DATE JOINED
08/22/2014

Now my faucet has been blocked!! I had 2500 satoishi faucet. One the whole reason I joined and use Primedice was because I could build up my faucet :/

So basically, you can ''earn'' rank in PD only to have it stripped away
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May 04, 2017, 08:36:13 PM
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Why bother giving things to very small players? They won't bring much money anyway :/

It is not about profit all the time. Actually by giving freebies or even let them keep on using faucet, the site will be looking more crowded then the other site. Thus this will attract more players to come and stay, imagine how will it looks like when you are the only one play in the site . That is just so boring even when you are not chatting at all

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May 05, 2017, 12:55:32 AM
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Why bother giving things to very small players? They won't bring much money anyway :/

It is not about profit all the time. Actually by giving freebies or even let them keep on using faucet, the site will be looking more crowded then the other site. Thus this will attract more players to come and stay, imagine how will it looks like when you are the only one play in the site . That is just so boring even when you are not chatting at all

What the hell, Primedice is a proven scam. I have this:

You have been muted by an admin and have 3599999003443 seconds left

Look at my stats (on the old primedice I have over 400btc wagered, which they also scammed be for imo there is a thread somewhere)

TOTAL WAGERED
27.31213108BTC
TOTAL PROFIT
-0.77021035BTC
TOTAL BETS
1,995,387
TOTAL WINS
903,004
TOTAL LOSSES
1,092,383
LUCK
100.00%
CHAT MESSAGES
5,353
DATE JOINED
08/22/2014

Now my faucet has been blocked!! I had 2500 satoishi faucet. One the whole reason I joined and use Primedice was because I could build up my faucet :/

So basically, you can ''earn'' rank in PD only to have it stripped away

The main reason they blocked you should be not depositing since last three months and faucet farming (at least what I know). Correct me if I am wrong but you quality for at least one of them. Idk why they have done that as their 24 hours profit is always more than 600btc. Looks like a cheap shot to me.
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